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2003-02-10 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
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RE: Action items now or after board meeting?

2003-02-10 Thread Danny Angus
Sam, Noel, everyone.. With respect to dnsjava and mm.mysql, my understanding is that we had indeed received such alternate licensing. Perhaps this needs to be made more clear somewhere. If they issued a separate license for everyone to use, then I see no record of this on

Re: Action items now or after board meeting?

2003-02-10 Thread Sam Ruby
Danny Angus wrote: With respect to dnsjava and mm.mysql, my understanding is that we had indeed received such alternate licensing. Perhaps this needs to be made more clear somewhere. If they issued a separate license for everyone to use, then I see no record of this on their website. If

RE: Licensing again.

2003-02-10 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
It should be noted that Apache Software Foundation members are the legal *owners* of the software that is available under the Apache Software License. Indeed, that is one of the key benefits to becoming an ASF member, as opposed to just a committer on one or more projects. It seems

Re: Action items now or after board meeting?

2003-02-10 Thread Martin van den Bemt
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 13:46, Sam Ruby wrote: MySQL have indicated to me that they do intend to provide (or consider providing) specific less restrictive licences to certain groups, and that jakarta would likely be one, but I haven't heard any more, and until then the last release of

Re: Licensing again.

2003-02-10 Thread Sam Ruby
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I've never heard this other interperatation outside of the ASF. I'll put more research into the issue and get back to you. I know that all of the developers that use LGPL that I know of think that the jar binaries can be used with no problem at all in any type of

Re: Licensing again.

2003-02-10 Thread Martin van den Bemt
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 16:19, Sam Ruby wrote: Define link. If you were subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], you would have already seen the following: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgId=641442 http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL

Re: Classic

2003-02-10 Thread Fergus Gallagher
Still there.. On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 08:52:34AM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Has it been taken offline? I was looking at it earlier, and can't now. Anyone have a copy? I'd like to keep one. geir On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:00 AM, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: LOL!

Re: Licensing again.

2003-02-10 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 10/2/03 4:05 Lawrence E. Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It should be noted that Apache Software Foundation members are the legal *owners* of the software that is available under the Apache Software License. Indeed, that is one of the key benefits to becoming an ASF member, as opposed to

Re: Licensing again.

2003-02-10 Thread Timothy Halloran
Does this mean the ASF has taken away the ability for others to do derived works (including derived works that make the code commercial or GPL -- with a simple name change)? That would mean the license is no longer open source (by OSD anyway)? This is a strange discussion thread. On Mon,

RE: Action items now or after board meeting?

2003-02-10 Thread Danny Angus
I would, of course, pass this on as even a specific licence for Apache may not accord with either the ASFL or distribution of the driver by our mirrors. FWIW I believe that I summarised this on general@jakarta at the time, but perhaps not. The net affect of such a license

Re: Licensing again.

2003-02-10 Thread Morgan Delagrange
No there are plenty of works derived from Apache projects. Apache code may be freely modified or redistributed, but as per the Apache license: The end-user documentation included with [redistributions of Apache code], if any, must include the following acknowlegement: This product

Re: Licensing again.

2003-02-10 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Timothy Halloran wrote: Date: 10 Feb 2003 13:43:24 -0500 From: Timothy Halloran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Licensing again. Does this mean the ASF has taken away the

Re: Licensing again.

2003-02-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Martin van den Bemt wrote: On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 16:19, Sam Ruby wrote: Define link. If you were subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], you would have already seen the following: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgId=641442