Does this mean the ASF has taken away the ability for others to do
derived works (including derived works that make the code commercial or
GPL -- with a simple name change)?  That would mean the license is no
longer open source (by OSD anyway)?

This is a strange discussion thread.

On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 12:36, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> On 10/2/03 4:05 "Lawrence E. Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> It should be noted that Apache Software Foundation members
> >> are the legal
> >> *owners* of the software that is available under the Apache
> >> Software License.  Indeed, that is one of the key benefits to
> >> becoming an ASF member, as opposed to just a committer on one
> >> or more projects.  It seems perfectly reasonable that
> >> decisions on the license under which that software is
> >> licensed should be made by the people that own it.
> > 
> > I'm curious.  What is the legal basis for this claim of ownership?
> 
> The fact that each contributor, prior access to our CVS repository, signs a
> paper saying that for whatever goes in CVS, he assigns copyright and
> ownership of the code to the ASF... No more no less than what any random
> employee of a software company does with his employer...
> 
>     Pier
> 
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