Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org writes:
Christ on a $#@%! crutch. You can NOT auto-enable C++11 in your library based
on a configure test and then stuff flags that are not supported by previous
compiler versions into pkg-config for library consumers. Somebody sane
please fix this.
Though is
On 31/10/2012 23:13, Graham Murray wrote:
Though is it not normally a reasonable assumption that the library
consumers will be built with the same or later compiler version as the
library? In which case it does no harm.
Not really, it's not.
--
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
One of major problems with this tinderbox is that it cannot be
used to test packages against newer versions of packages present
in overlays [1]
Which is not a problem since we're _not_ talking about packages
in overlays but of a bump in the main tree which is
Graham Murray wrote:
Christ on a $#@%! crutch. You can NOT auto-enable C++11 in your library
based
on a configure test and then stuff flags that are not supported by previous
compiler versions into pkg-config for library consumers. Somebody sane
please fix this.
Though is it not
On 31/10/2012 23:18, Peter Stuge wrote:
Um, so how come an overlay isn't the obvious method for testing,
before putting things in the main tree? What other method is *more*
convenient for testing?
package.mask
Diego, I would like to ask you to step off Arfrever.
And I would like that
Ryan Hill wrote:
You can NOT
I am not saying that it is a good idea, but of course you can. It has
pretty sucky effects on how your library can be used, disabling
various smart stuff that modern systems do, but I guess the upstream
practises may be from a different time.
Somebody sane please
Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Um, so how come an overlay isn't the obvious method for testing,
before putting things in the main tree? What other method is *more*
convenient for testing?
package.mask
Can you clarify? Do you propose that developers carry out wild
experiments by committing
On 31/10/2012 23:42, Peter Stuge wrote:
Can you clarify? Do you propose that developers carry out wild
experiments by committing things that probably don't work and
masking them?
Dirty experiments, no. Testing stuff that's almost ready, yes. If you
run the tinderbox against dirty experiments,
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:21:38 +0100
Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:
Graham Murray wrote:
Christ on a $#@%! crutch. You can NOT auto-enable C++11 in your library
based
on a configure test and then stuff flags that are not supported by
previous
compiler versions into pkg-config
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you
should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing.
What if you don't have the privilege to assign bugs, but are willing to
do the work of filing the
On 30/10/12 19:02, Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 09:50 +, Markos Chandras wrote:
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hello
I would like to know about mobile team status and also show that this
team has important bugs assigned to them for
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:58:16 -0700
Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote:
On 31/10/2012 11:49, Michał Górny wrote:
In other words, you have thrown a big, destructive change to live,
stable systems without prior testing (and don't say you were able to
test it thoroughly in one
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
I've created licenses/HPND [1] now, and added it to the @OSI-APPROVED
group. So packages whose license matches this template can be changed
from as-is to HPND. (And please, _only_ OSD-compliant packages.
We don't want the same mess again, as we have
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On 11/01/2012 03:59 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you
should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing.
What
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
And even if that, you have no right to remove maintainers
from a package or unCC them from bugs just because you don't like them
or disagree with their opinion. Especially that you are not
a maintainer of this package.
To
Hi all,
With regards to bug #304435[1], we would like to formalise the policy
for touching arch profiles' files.
The key suggested points:
* Archs profiles should generally only be touched by members of that
arch team, unless prior permission is given
* Exception: anyone may add a mask to
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you
should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing.
What if you don't have the
Firstly, why are you guys always so mad, and secondly why don't we just
start packaging more of these packages as binaries then or bundling the
needed version like the rest of the world does anyways? For many packages
and systems (in this day and age of personal computing power) the advantage
of
On 01/11/2012 06:50, Jamie Learmonth wrote:
Who's with me?
Not me.
If you're just looking for another binary distribution, CentOS is there.
Or Sabayon. Or Ubuntu. Pick your poison.
But I use and _develop_ Gentoo because I _want_, and sometimes just
_need_ source based! Sometiems it's because
2012/11/1 Jamie Learmonth jamie-li...@boxlightmedia.com:
Firstly, why are you guys always so mad, and secondly why don't we just
start packaging more of these packages as binaries then or bundling the
needed version like the rest of the world does anyways?
So are you suggesting to package all
On 11/01/2012 02:50 PM, Jamie Learmonth wrote:
Firstly, why are you guys always so mad, and secondly why don't we just
start packaging more of these packages as binaries then or bundling the
needed version like the rest of the world does anyways?
You lost faith in our ways, maybe dberkholz can
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On 01/11/12 10:10 AM, Georg Rudoy wrote:
2012/11/1 Jamie Learmonth jamie-li...@boxlightmedia.com:
Firstly, why are you guys always so mad, and secondly why don't
we just start packaging more of these packages as binaries then
or bundling the
On 31.10.2012 14.39, Michael Palimaka wrote:
Hi all,
In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2]
into the devmanual[3].
As the project has grown, so has the amount - and dispersion - of
development information. I believe consolidation of this information
into a
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 31.10.2012 14.39, Michael Palimaka wrote:
Hi all,
In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2]
into the devmanual[3].
As the project has grown, so has the amount - and dispersion - of
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:59:09 +0100
Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
What if you don't have the privilege to assign bugs, but are
willing to do the work of filing the bugs?
Yeah, that kind of sucks. Perhaps we should extend the privilege a
little more often?
In this case no prior
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:26:38 +0100
Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org
wrote:
Hi all,
In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging the devrel handbook[2] into
the devmanual[3].
As the project has
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:26:38 +0100
Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org
wrote:
Hi all,
In bug #304435[1], hwoarang suggested merging
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:42:52 -0400
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Shortly saying, devmanual in wiki would mostly consist of HTML tagsoup
intermixed with wiki text. For the very simple reason that MediaWiki
lags
Hello,
Recently I have committed a new dev-python/argparse revision. I have
migrated it to distutils-r1 and enabled building only for those Python
versions which don't have argparse built-in. Sadly, I had to
package.mask it since it suffers a REQUIRED_USE issue on modern systems.
For those who
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 12:47:34AM +1100, Michael Palimaka wrote:
Hi all,
With regards to bug #304435[1], we would like to formalise the policy
for touching arch profiles' files.
The key suggested points:
Ok, this then clears the way for MySQL 5.5 to enter the tree.
bug #351931:
On 01/11/2012 16:47, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
I'm going to put the following masks in for the above:
If you're already doing the job would you mind just masking the use flag
globally, and not just for mysql/mariadb?
--
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flamee...@flameeyes.eu —
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 04:51:52PM -0700, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 01/11/2012 16:47, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
I'm going to put the following masks in for the above:
If you're already doing the job would you mind just masking the use flag
globally, and not just for mysql/mariadb?
I did
Hi all,
I know it's been much awaited, but I didn't have a lot of faith in it
previously, so I didn't want to destroy the systems of our ~arch users
by releasing MySQL/MariaDB 5.5.x on them.
However, as of today, I believe that it is sufficiently ready to be used
on ~arch systems, and I will be
On 10/31/12 11:13 PM, Graham Murray wrote:
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org writes:
Christ on a $#@%! crutch. You can NOT auto-enable C++11 in your library
based
on a configure test and then stuff flags that are not supported by previous
compiler versions into pkg-config for library
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:30:06 +0100
Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:
Ryan Hill wrote:
You can NOT
I am not saying that it is a good idea, but of course you can. It has
pretty sucky effects on how your library can be used, disabling
various smart stuff that modern systems do, but I guess
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:30:06 +0100
Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:
I guess it will be difficult for representatives from a given distribution to
fix very much upstream, if possible I think that the distribution should
instead be fixed to deal with the limits imposed by upstream practises.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:50:13PM -0700, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
Dirty experiments, no. Testing stuff that's almost ready, yes. If you
run the tinderbox against dirty experiments, the time _I_ pour in to
sort through the logs report bugs is wasted because they'll hit stupid
hacks that fail
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 01:00:14 -0600
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
This has nothing to do with dependencies not getting rebuilt when the library
does. It's about switching to an earlier compiler version and having
every single package depending on that library fail to build due to
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Steven J. Long
sl...@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
He's right tho: the topic was Why doesn't your tinderbox work with
overlays? Your response was to insult Arfrever and not actually answer
the point.
Well, nobody is paying Diego to make a tinderbox that works
On 01/11/2012 19:23, Steven J. Long wrote:
He's right tho: the topic was Why doesn't your tinderbox work with
overlays? Your response was to insult Arfrever and not actually answer
the point.
_Arfrever himself_ point to my reason in that blog post, FFS.
Not that I agree with the argument: a
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