Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND is not an IUSE replacement [was: New USE_EXPAND: CLAWS_MAIL_PLUGINS]

2013-05-04 Thread Dustin C. Hatch
On 5/3/2013 16:08, René Neumann wrote: Am 03.05.2013 22:20, schrieb Zac Medico: Is it worth changing? Nope. What's worth changing is the excessive use of USE_EXPAND for no reason (your described usecase makes sense for reasonable USE_EXPAND stuff like VIDEO_CARDS). But seems like I'm the only

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCHES] Sub-phase functions in autotools-utils autotools-multilib

2013-05-04 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 2 May 2013 14:26:11 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: I've thought for a bit and got the conclusion that the best solution for quite an irritating syntax of autotools-multilib is to use sub-phase functions. To increase consistency between ebuilds, the same phases can be used

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-04 Thread Luca Barbato
On 05/01/2013 12:04 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: PLEASE DO NOT START A FLAME WAR AND READ ON FIRST. THIS IS NOT A POST AGAINST OPENRC. Amen With the release of Sabayon 13.04 [1] and thanks to the efforts I put into the systemd-love overlay [2], systemd has become much more accessible and easy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages using -Werror

2013-05-04 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/04/2013 06:52 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2013 16:41:33 +0200 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2013 16:15:35 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: We already get QA warnings for severe compiler warnings

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: Hopefully we might have a gsoc student volunteering to make a runscript/lsb-script/systemd-unit compiler and a small abstraction so we write a single init.d script and generate what's needed. Probably we might even support

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-04 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: On 05/01/2013 12:04 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: PLEASE DO NOT START A FLAME WAR AND READ ON FIRST. THIS IS NOT A POST AGAINST OPENRC. Amen With the release of Sabayon 13.04 [1] and thanks to the efforts I put into the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-04 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote: Scenario: - you have an initramfs with mdev, your pivot_chroot system runs udev. - you have a LVM volume group, containing the lvm volume for / and /home, and perhaps you also have swap on another volume. - you boot

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND is not an IUSE replacement [was: New USE_EXPAND: CLAWS_MAIL_PLUGINS]

2013-05-04 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 04/05/2013 08:11, Dustin C. Hatch ha scritto: On 5/3/2013 16:08, René Neumann wrote: Am 03.05.2013 22:20, schrieb Zac Medico: Is it worth changing? Nope. What's worth changing is the excessive use of USE_EXPAND for no reason (your described usecase makes sense for reasonable USE_EXPAND

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND is not an IUSE replacement [was: New USE_EXPAND: CLAWS_MAIL_PLUGINS]

2013-05-04 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/03/2013 11:11 PM, Dustin C. Hatch wrote: On 5/3/2013 16:08, René Neumann wrote: Am 03.05.2013 22:20, schrieb Zac Medico: Is it worth changing? Nope. What's worth changing is the excessive use of USE_EXPAND for no reason (your described usecase makes sense for reasonable USE_EXPAND

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND is not an IUSE replacement [was: New USE_EXPAND: CLAWS_MAIL_PLUGINS]

2013-05-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 03 May 2013 22:58:57 -0400 Rick \Zero_Chaos\ Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: Note that PMS says USE_EXPAND variables are supposed to be treated as incremental. Also note that portage implements pseudo-increment behavior for settings

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-04 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 04-05-2013 a las 15:05 +0200, Fabio Erculiani escribió: [...] - networkmanager need not to install/remove files depending on USE=systemd but rather detect systemd at runtime, which is a 3 lines script. Sounds sensible. Also, I forgot that I wrote a NetworkManager patch that

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND is not an IUSE replacement [was: New USE_EXPAND: CLAWS_MAIL_PLUGINS]

2013-05-04 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/04/2013 11:31 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 03 May 2013 22:58:57 -0400 Rick \Zero_Chaos\ Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: Note that PMS says USE_EXPAND variables are supposed to be treated as incremental. Also note that portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND is not an IUSE replacement [was: New USE_EXPAND: CLAWS_MAIL_PLUGINS]

2013-05-04 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 11:03:41PM -0400, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2013 05:28 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:08 PM, René Neumann li...@necoro.eu wrote: Am 03.05.2013 22:20, schrieb Zac Medico: Is it worth

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/id3lib: metadata.xml ChangeLog id3lib-3.8.3-r9.ebuild

2013-05-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 03 May 2013 20:18:42 +0200 Justin j...@gentoo.org wrote: + 03 May 2013; Justin Lecher j...@gentoo.org +id3lib-3.8.3-r9.ebuild, + metadata.xml: + Fix obsolete macros to work with automake-1.13, #467704; bumped to EAPI=5 and + autotools-utils.eclass There was no reason

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/id3lib: metadata.xml ChangeLog id3lib-3.8.3-r9.ebuild

2013-05-04 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 04/05/2013 19:42, Jeroen Roovers ha scritto: On Fri, 03 May 2013 20:18:42 +0200 Justin j...@gentoo.org wrote: + 03 May 2013; Justin Lecher j...@gentoo.org +id3lib-3.8.3-r9.ebuild, + metadata.xml: + Fix obsolete macros to work with automake-1.13, #467704; bumped to EAPI=5 and +