[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:36 Fri 02 Aug , William Hubbs wrote: All, This message is an announcement and a reminder. OpenRc-0.12 will be introduced to the portage tree in the next few days. If you are using ~arch OpenRc, the standard disclaimer applies: remember that you might be subject to breakage.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Markos Chandras
On Aug 3, 2013 10:06 AM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 15:36 Fri 02 Aug , William Hubbs wrote: All, This message is an announcement and a reminder. OpenRc-0.12 will be introduced to the portage tree in the next few days. If you are using ~arch OpenRc, the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Douglas Freed
On Aug 3, 2013 6:04 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Aug 3, 2013 10:06 AM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 15:36 Fri 02 Aug , William Hubbs wrote: All, This message is an announcement and a reminder. OpenRc-0.12 will be introduced to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On Aug 3, 2013 10:06 AM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 15:36 Fri 02 Aug , William Hubbs wrote: I do not know of any breakage personally. It does work on my system, and I know of others who are

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping static libs support from cryptsetup and lvm2

2013-08-03 Thread Duncan
Mike Gilbert posted on Fri, 02 Aug 2013 10:32:10 -0400 as excerpted: On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Steven J. Long posted... you only really need an initramfs if [...] Or, unfortunately, for root on mult-device btrfs, since the usual kernel commandline

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/08/2013 13:43, Rich Freeman wrote: [snip] I think the only real issue is the wording here. [snip] Agreed. Reading William's post, he's really just expressed in his own words what ~arch is all about: we accept the possibility of breakage. Everything after the first two sentences is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flag: git

2013-08-03 Thread Sergey Popov
03.08.2013 02:38, Michael Weber пишет: Hello, we have subversion and cvs ad global flags, but not git (or hg|mercurial). I'm about to add the 14th [1] package using this flag. I propose a description git - Enable git (version control system) support in use.desc. Heh, i thought this was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Global USE flag: git

2013-08-03 Thread hasufell
On 08/03/2013 12:38 AM, Michael Weber wrote: Hello, we have subversion and cvs ad global flags, but not git (or hg|mercurial). I'm about to add the 14th [1] package using this flag. I propose a description git - Enable git (version control system) support in use.desc. Yes/No?

[gentoo-dev] [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, We've been working with yac for a while to get the old twisted.eclass converted to be compliant with distutils-r1 both in design and in spirit. This is the first version we'd like to submit for review. A few notes: 1. The eclass aims to be less conditional than the old one. Especially

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 01:03:58PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: On Aug 3, 2013 10:06 AM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 15:36 Fri 02 Aug , William Hubbs wrote: All, This message is an announcement and a reminder. OpenRc-0.12 will be introduced to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Michał Górny wrote: 2. The eclass comes with a pure bash-3.2 CamelCase converter for changing PNs like 'twisted-foo' into 'TwistedFoo'. The relevant code can be moved to eutils as portable replacements for bash-4 ${foo^} and friends. # obtain octal ASCII

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2013.08.03 16:28, William Hubbs wrote: [snip] Ok all, I would like to appologise for the harsh wording. Markos, to answer your question, there are folks on the team, and at least one user, using OpenRc from git without issues, so as far as I know there shouldn't be any breakage. I

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Sat, 03 Aug 2013 10:28:59 -0500 as excerpted: Markos, to answer your question, there are folks on the team, and at least one user, using OpenRc from git without issues, so as far as I know there shouldn't be any breakage. waves hand The other day in the process of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:44:52PM +, Duncan wrote: Running the ~arch release version, OTOH, doesn't appear to significantly reduce the incidence of bugs compared to live-git, but there's a much bigger pile of changes in a release, and far less information about what they actually are,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-03, o godz. 17:54:42 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Michał Górny wrote: 2. The eclass comes with a pure bash-3.2 CamelCase converter for changing PNs like 'twisted-foo' into 'TwistedFoo'. The relevant code can be moved to eutils as portable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:44:52PM +, Duncan wrote: I run openrc- because I guess my configuration's unusual enough to trigger bugs once in awhile, and from experience once I do, it's a lot easier to track 'em down if I've only a couple commits to check since my last update. Plus

Re: [gentoo-dev] [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-03, o godz. 17:54:42 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): This looks just horrible. You do decimal arithmetic on octal numbers? Yes. Bash wasn't really happy to do octal arithmetic for me. Yet in this particular case, with proper

Re: [gentoo-dev] [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Alex Xu
On 03/08/13 02:29 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-03, o godz. 17:54:42 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Michał Górny wrote: 2. The eclass comes with a pure bash-3.2 CamelCase converter for changing PNs like 'twisted-foo' into 'TwistedFoo'. The relevant

Re: [gentoo-dev] [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-03, o godz. 21:37:10 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-03, o godz. 17:54:42 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): This looks just horrible. You do decimal arithmetic on octal numbers? Yes. Bash

Re: [gentoo-dev] [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Alex Xu
On 03/08/13 03:37 PM, Alex Xu wrote: On 03/08/13 02:29 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-03, o godz. 17:54:42 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Michał Górny wrote: 2. The eclass comes with a pure bash-3.2 CamelCase converter for changing PNs like

Re: [gentoo-dev] [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-03, o godz. 15:37:54 Alex Xu alex_y...@yahoo.ca napisał(a): On 03/08/13 02:29 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-08-03, o godz. 17:54:42 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 3 Aug 2013, Michał Górny wrote: 2. The eclass comes with a pure bash-3.2 CamelCase

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:28 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Ok all, I would like to appologise for the harsh wording. Your wording wasn't harsh - it just wasn't ideal. If only imperfect marketing was our worst problem around here... Rich

[gentoo-dev] OpenRc-0.12 and gentoo-oldnet-0.1 keywording question

2013-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
All, one thing that is going to be different about OpenRc-0.12 is the oldnet scripts (net.* and /lib*/rc/net/*) are going to be split out into their own package, gentoo-oldnet-0.1. This will be brought in by a pdepend initially to make sure everyone who doesn't have newnet gets the package.

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRc-0.12 and gentoo-oldnet-0.1 keywording question

2013-08-03 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 16:44 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: All, one thing that is going to be different about OpenRc-0.12 is the oldnet scripts (net.* and /lib*/rc/net/*) are going to be split out into their own package, gentoo-oldnet-0.1. This will be brought in by a pdepend initially to make

Re: [gentoo-dev] [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-03, o godz. 17:13:03 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org napisał(a): We've been working with yac for a while to get the old twisted.eclass converted to be compliant with distutils-r1 both in design and in spirit. This is the first version we'd like to submit for review. Second

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRc-0.12 and gentoo-oldnet-0.1 keywording question

2013-08-03 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 12:44 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: All, one thing that is going to be different about OpenRc-0.12 is the oldnet scripts (net.* and /lib*/rc/net/*) are going to be split out into their own package, gentoo-oldnet-0.1. This will be brought in by a pdepend

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Duncan
Sven Vermeulen posted on Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:51:02 + as excerpted: On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:44:52PM +, Duncan wrote: I run openrc- because I guess my configuration's unusual enough to trigger bugs once in awhile, and from experience once I do, it's a lot easier to track 'em down

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:57:20 -0500 as excerpted: On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 04:44:52PM +, Duncan wrote: Running the ~arch release version, OTOH, doesn't appear to significantly reduce the incidence of bugs compared to live-git, but there's a much bigger pile of changes

Re: [gentoo-dev] [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-03, o godz. 17:13:03 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org napisał(a): We've been working with yac for a while to get the old twisted.eclass converted to be compliant with distutils-r1 both in design and in spirit. This is the first version we'd like to submit for review. One more bit

[gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
Hi all, I'm splitting the thread because this is a separate subject. On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 12:59:56AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: I do understand why Roy refer this as oldnet... but why in Gentoo do we keep the term old? The functionality of these script is huge, and is better than most

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi all, I'm splitting the thread because this is a separate subject. On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 12:59:56AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: I do understand why Roy refer this as oldnet... but why in Gentoo do we keep the term

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Actually the plan is to generalize it so that it works with other init systems. Right now it is very tightly integrated with OpenRc, but there is interest

[gentoo-dev] newsitem: Kernel Team vanilla-sources policy

2013-08-03 Thread Mike Pagano
All, Here is the vanilla-sources non stablizing policy news item. If all goes well, this will be committed to the tree on 08/07 UTC. Mike Title: vanilla-sources stabilization policy Author: Mike Pagano mpag...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2013-08-07 Revision: 1

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: Kernel Team vanilla-sources policy

2013-08-03 Thread Alex Xu
Minor grammar/typographical errata: On 04/08/13 12:53 AM, Mike Pagano wrote: The Gentoo Kernel Team will no longer be providing stable vanilla-sources kernels. All currently stabilized vanilla-sources versions will be dropped to ~arch. The Arch teams, via normal requests of the Kernel Team,

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Actually the plan is to generalize it so that it works with other init systems.

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 21:03 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: OK... so

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:03:06PM -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Actually the plan

[gentoo-dev] Re: [New eclass] twisted-r1.eclass

2013-08-03 Thread Marien Zwart
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: We've been working with yac for a while to get the old twisted.eclass converted to be compliant with distutils-r1 both in design and in spirit. This is the first version we'd like to submit for review. Thanks for doing this.