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On 11/03/2013 10:15 PM, yac wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there?
It's always been emerge -avuND world
[snip]
Is this
Am Samstag, 2. November 2013, 16:03:30 schrieb Michał Górny:
Dnia 2013-11-02, o godz. 14:51:26
Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:16:45 -0400
Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote:
This is a followup to a discussion on IRC yesterday regarding
Daniel Campbell posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 02:50:27 -0600 as excerpted:
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On 11/03/2013 10:15 PM, yac wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
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Afaik there is no official way to update
Am Montag, 4. November 2013, 10:01:18 schrieb Sven Eden:
Btw. Why does dev-python/python-exec:2 has a dependency on
dev-python/python- exec:0 ?
Sorry, I meant: Why does dev-python/python-exec:2 has a dependency on dev-
lang/python- exec:0 ? of course.
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Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Daniel Campbell posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 02:50:27 -0600 as
excerpted:
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On 11/03/2013 10:15 PM, yac wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 05:15:18 +0100
yac y...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there?
It's always been emerge -avuND world
[snip]
Is this documented
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Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
and the default is oneshot
I would always recommend to put -1 into EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS;
you can still use --select if you really want a new package in a
word file: after the first installation this should happen rather rarely
(and you can still use -n --select
Dnia 2013-11-04, o godz. 10:01:18
Sven Eden sven.e...@gmx.de napisał(a):
PyQt4 and synaptiks were only the messengers, btw.
dev-lang/python-exec-0. has the Targets pypy2_0 and python3_3 which dev-
lang/python-exec-0.3.1 does not have. But both dev-python/python-exec-1.1
and
yac wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:51:32 + (UTC)
Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Daniel Campbell posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 02:50:27 -0600 as
excerpted:
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On 11/03/2013 10:15 PM, yac wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:26:32 +0100
yac y...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:51:32 + (UTC)
Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
FWIW, I have a whole set of short, often 2-4 letter aliases/scripts
that take care of the various options
Sooo, basicly you have defined buttload of
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:06:52 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
But after a person has used Gentoo a while, they figure out what
process leads to the most stable update process.
Do they? What do you consider a stable update process?
I come across users on a daily basis which
- haven't
Am Montag, 4. November 2013, 12:55:45 schrieben Sie:
Dnia 2013-11-04, o godz. 10:01:18
Sven Eden sven.e...@gmx.de napisał(a):
PyQt4 and synaptiks were only the messengers, btw.
dev-lang/python-exec-0. has the Targets pypy2_0 and python3_3 which
dev- lang/python-exec-0.3.1 does not
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On 03/11/13 07:10 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: Sadly, it's somewhat
common for (newish) users to not know what to do with that.
El lun, 04-11-2013 a las 10:01 -0500, Ian Stakenvicius escribió:
On 03/11/13 07:10 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: Sadly, it's somewhat
common for (newish) users to not know
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On 04/11/13 10:07 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
El lun, 04-11-2013 a las 10:01 -0500, Ian Stakenvicius escribió:
On 03/11/13 07:10 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/11/2013
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On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:20:24 -0500
Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
Oh absolutely -- i figured this isn't a trivial issue. :)
But it does seem like something we will need to fix (that is, ensuring
that blocker or conflict messages shown
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:06:52 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
But after a person has used Gentoo a while, they figure out what
process leads to the most stable update process.
Do they? What do you consider a stable
On Sunday 03 November 2013 13:10:57 Tom Wijsman wrote:
Let's say I have the blocker:
dev-python/python-exec-1 is blocking
dev-lang/python-exec-0.3.1
We could have it additionally say something like:
To resolve this blocker, you can run one of the following commands:
Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:06:52 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
But after a person has used Gentoo a while, they figure out what
process leads to the most stable update process.
Do they? What do you consider a stable update process?
I consider it stable when things
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 21:00:16 +0100
Ruud Koolen redliz...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sunday 03 November 2013 13:10:57 Tom Wijsman wrote:
Let's say I have the blocker:
dev-python/python-exec-1 is blocking
dev-lang/python-exec-0.3.1
We could have it additionally say something like:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:02:28 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
You are right, it does require prior knowledge and as a user gets that
knowledge, they likely end up where Alan, Duncan and myself are. That
would be emerge -uaDN world.
And from there you can continue; like adding -vt
Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:02:28 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
You are right, it does require prior knowledge and as a user gets that
knowledge, they likely end up where Alan, Duncan and myself are. That
would be emerge -uaDN world.
And from there you can continue;
Martin Vaeth posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:17:49 + as excerpted:
Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
and the default is oneshot
I would always recommend to put -1 into EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS;
you can still use --select if you really want a new package in a word
file: after the first
Duncan wrote:
I believe the reason it wasn't done is because the default options
setting was added instead. Well that and the fact that (as covered
below), I guess most users setup their own scripts/aliases at some point,
at which point the existence of something that general-purpose
yac posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:26:32 +0100 as excerpted:
Sooo, basicly you have defined buttload of aliases, somehow managed to
remember these nonsensical names and actually did not save any
keystrokes, because most linux users heard of tab completion and use it
succesfuly to complete
On 04/11/2013 14:28, Tom Wijsman wrote:
The only way to get a more stable system is to do a emerge -e world
and update that way. At least that has been my experience so far.
I have never needed this; I wonder whether there exists an example case
for this, I only see this used when someone
On 11/04/2013 04:46 PM, Duncan wrote:
I imagine were emerge being written today, -1 /would/ be the default, and
there'd be an option like --select to add to the @world file if
necessary. That's actually the way I setup my scripts, with -1 the
default, and an extra 2 suffix script variant
All,
I would like to remind everyone about the tracker for services that are
misusing need net in their OpenRC init scripts [1].
need net should be removed from our init scripts, because it is bogus
and breaks things. I also question the value of use net, because the
same thinking applies, e.g.
Michael Orlitzky posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 20:23:17 -0500 as excerpted:
On 11/04/2013 04:46 PM, Duncan wrote:
I imagine were emerge being written today, -1 /would/ be the default,
and there'd be an option like --select to add to the @world file if
necessary. That's actually the way I
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