Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed change to savedconfig.eclass

2010-03-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:39:32 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 24 February 2010 12:03:16 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > If no one objects, I will look forward to committing the patch in a > > week or two. > > commit it already :p Thanks for the reminder. In the same

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving packages to dev-vcs

2010-03-05 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:08:06 +0100 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > 4. Notify > = > - Report back problems with this process > > - Mail fellow maintainers of dev-util/${PN} about the move > > - If ${PN} is a big one (Subversion, Git, you know the list) > - Update documentation (now or open

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:35:28 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > And this is why the move wasn't done five years ago: by the time we'd > worked out everything we'd need to do by hand because epkgmove was > broken, the whole thing got bikeshedded to death. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56967

Re: [gentoo-dev] Check LICENSE and SRC_URI changes when bumping GNU packages

2010-02-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:47:55 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > > Attached is a list of ebuild that use ftp.gnu.org instead of > > mirror://gnu in their SRC_URI. Please make the switch. Maybe this > > should

[gentoo-dev] Proposed change to savedconfig.eclass

2010-02-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hello developers, this has annoyed me for a long time. restore_config() dies when it cannot find a saved config file, while later on in any ebuild that uses savedconfig.eclass, it will save the config file anyhow. That means it will not use an edited saved config file during the first emerge

[gentoo-dev] Check LICENSE and SRC_URI changes when bumping GNU packages

2010-02-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hello package maintainers, most of the GNU packages had their LICENSE updated to GPL-3 along with some minor bug fixes or even just documentation changes in recent times. Please do check the LICENSE and adjust it if needed. Oh, and one other thing. Attached is a list of ebuild that use ftp.

[gentoo-dev] Developer Handbook should document how/when to touch arch profiles' files

2010-02-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
As set out in bug #304435 [1], we should declare some policy about changes to arch profiles in devmanual or in the Developer Handbook. Basically, I would want to have this apply to arch profile changes as well: [5] http://devmanual.gentoo.org/keywording/index.html says: = Keywording on Upgr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: "X" vs "gtk" USE flags

2010-02-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:11:31 +0100 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Your proposal does not look to appealing to me. What about people > trying to keep "pollution" down and avoid one or the other toolkit? Some packages don't use a USE flag to pull those in, since the toolkit dependency isn't optiona

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:18:59 +0100 Arnaud Launay wrote: > I have absolutely no idea how much work it requires, so I won't > complain if TC says it's too complicated/unpratical/etc. rm -r * is easy. > BTW, I have no knowledge of the concept of proxy-maintainer, I'll > look at it tomorrow, it's 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:37:19 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > So going with this idea... Isn't the treecleaner masking 30-day at > present? What about extending that just a bit, to 5 weeks total, > while reducing the actual masking to 4 weeks, with the extra week a > wait time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:51:28 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > > you need to fix your filter then. an "open bug" is not an > > acceptable reason for masking a package. if you're going to clean > > a package, you need to research actual reasons to mask & punt. > > -mike > Dont be joking, > Your appro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:32:06 +0200 Markos Chandras wrote: > Thanks for saving this package. As Jeremy said, there is absolutely > no way to measure the popularity of a package. So if it has no > maintainer, and open bugs we have to mask it and announce it here. It > is up to you whether you want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:02:14 +0100 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > I'm working on getting 2.5.1 in the tree (and fixing a USE=python and > some other issues while I'm at it). net-nntp/inn-2.5.1 is in the tree and fixes many (QA) issues. Please track bug #300650 [1] if you want to stay

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:30:24 +0100 Arnaud Launay wrote: > But, if I understand this announce correctly, the complete inn > port will be dropped to oblivion. Yes, and that shouldn't (and won't) happen. > Wouldn't it be better to stabilize inn 2.5 (there's even a 2.5.1 > release out there, with a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nntp/inn

2010-01-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:31:08 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 11 January 2010 16:05:16 Markos Chandras wrote: > > # Markos Chandras (11 Jan 2010) > > # Fails with -Wl,--as-needed > > # bug #182782. Removal in 30 days > > net-nntp/inn > > is as-needed support really a valid reason for pun

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Documentation licenses and license_groups

2010-01-05 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:00:57 -0500 Vincent Launchbury wrote: > Duncan wrote: > > Quickly checking wikipedia (without verifying further), I'm probably > > thinking about a different license, but I had it in my head that > > GPLv1 had a "no commercial use" clause (or allowed it), and that is > > wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Documentation licenses and license_groups

2010-01-05 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:00:57 -0500 Vincent Launchbury wrote: > But isn't this a problem with GPL-2 and 3 also? The term > GPL-compatible is too vague--which version is it referring to? For > example, see http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/ again: > >Please note that GPLv2 is, by itself, n

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites for media-gfx/viewer

2010-01-05 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 01:33:42 +0100 Thilo Bangert wrote: > Jeroen Roovers said: > [snip] > > Feel free to > > CC me on bugs related to this package if you find any more pressing > > issues. > > the standard way of indicating such an interest is to add yourself t

Re: [gentoo-dev] x11-libs/lib*: wrong RDEPENDs bug

2009-12-28 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:10:48 +0100 (CET) lx...@gentoo.org wrote: > let's discuss concerns here (actually I don't see any and I am > willing to fix all the ebuilds and close all my bugs if you ack). If they are genuine bugs, then there isn't anything to discuss. > List of Gentoo bugs: Tracker bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2009-12-28 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:36:34 -0500 Vincent Launchbury wrote: > Also relating to this, what is freedist? The package app-text/dos2unix > lists 'freedist' as its license, and /usr/portage/licenses/freedist > says only "Freely Distributable". Several other packages do this, and > I'm sure it's not c

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites for media-gfx/viewer

2009-12-26 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:29:39 +0100 Diego E. Pettenò wrote: > > # Diego E. Pettenò (24 Dec 2009) > # on behalf of QA team > # > # Fails to build if /usr/X11R6 is not present (bug #247737, > # open November 2008). > # > # Removal on 2010-02-22 > media-gfx/viewer Oh, I fixed it in under five min

Re: [gentoo-dev] metdata.dtd should require

2009-12-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:37:26 -0500 Richard Freeman wrote: > I think we should definitely have some way of designating which > should be the contact for bugs. I've had some bugs sit around for a > while without being noticed because they were assigned to the herd > the package is in, and not to m

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Referendum on Gentoo Foundation Inc. accepting advertising from major Gentoo Users

2009-12-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Neither the ballot nor the announcement contains the actual question that is to be voted on. In the case of the announcement the problem isn't as huge as with the ballot, so the latter should be fixed soon, I guess. Roy's message does mention the actual question (and I must say that it's rather va

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA: package.mask policies

2009-11-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:11:37 +0100 Torsten Veller wrote: > > Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > > > But if we look on tag of screen-4.0.3 or its release: > > > screen-4.0.3.tar.gz07-Aug-2008 06:30 821K > > > screen-4.0.3.tar.gz.sig07-Aug-2008 06:30 65 > > *screen-4.0.3 (25 Oct 2006) >

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA: package.mask policies

2009-11-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:20:00 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > But if we look on tag of screen-4.0.3 or its release: > screen-4.0.2.tar.gz27-Jan-2004 05:46 821K > screen-4.0.2.tar.gz.sig27-Jan-2004 05:47 65 > screen-4.0.3.tar.gz07-Aug-2008 06:30 821K > screen-4.0.3.ta

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA: package.mask policies

2009-11-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:24:10 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > * Masking beta... > This masks are good if the software release is KNOWN to break > previous behaviour or degrade user experience. Otherwise the software > should not be masked (its TESTING for purpose, not stable). > Also the maintainer sh

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME

2009-10-25 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:00:03 -0500 Jeremy Olexa wrote: > Just so it is clear and there aren't any questions in the future. The > XFCE team maintains a set of recommended global use flags in our > docs[1] (maintained by Josh (nightmorph)). So, whatever direction > this ends up, xfce will not be g

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc-0.5.1 arrived in the tree

2009-10-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:33:35 -0400 Mark Loeser wrote: > I'd say this isn't correct. Unstable isn't a pure testing playground. > its meant for packages that should be considered for stable. I happen to disagree. Since the advent of outside overlays and layman, we've seen many more bugs that only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in net-mail/getmail: ChangeLog getmail-4.9.2.ebuild

2009-10-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:22:13 +0200 Fabian Groffen wrote: > We are working on a proper explanation targetted to devs of this. I'm > sorry for the inconvenience caused. How large of a change to the tree will this involve? Is it a small number of packages that need to be fixed through the ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=qa-test

2009-10-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 20:38:18 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > Some packages, like dbus[1], have testing features that, while useful > for developers and arch-testers, aren't something that should be > foisted on users. Dbus' case is extreme, as it builds-in functions > that are useful for unit testing, b

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Qt3 deprecation

2009-09-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Qt3 deprecation is now tracked in bug #283429 [1] Regards, jer [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/283429

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:33:52 -0700 Ned Ludd wrote: >huge fscking snip< Thank you. You were top of my list and I am counting on you. :) Regards, jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-25 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:50:22 +1200 Alistair Bush wrote: > I would believe that recent history would show the opposite. There > seem to be a group of developers at which the mere mention of ciaranm > results in setting them off. Regardless of the technical merits of a > solution they seem more i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Versioned use flags and preferencing (eg. qt3 / qt4 on same package)

2009-06-15 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:48:03 +0100 AllenJB wrote: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274197 > > The above bug brings up 2 issues: > > First, hplip says one thing, but does another with qt3 and qt4 > use-based dependencies. This is obviously a bug that needs to be > fixed. > > As a user,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28

2009-05-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 28 May 2009 00:54:40 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > None needed, seems to be the major voice. > > So it's your opinion that Gentoo should go with an in every way > inferior solution that doesn't solve the problem as well? I was merely overstating the obvious. jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28

2009-05-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 28 May 2009 00:45:18 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 27 May 2009 23:26:25 + (UTC) > Mark Bateman wrote: > > NOT once within GLEP55 [...] > Not once has there been an equally good alternative proposed. None needed, seems to be the major voice. jer

Re: versionator.eclass terminator, was [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 55 updated

2009-05-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 18 May 2009 16:16:46 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Why do you think I wrote the awful hack that is versionator? Why don't you explain why, historically, you put that in the tree? It would help us now if you were to simply record your mistakes for everybody else to easily avoid. It's sti

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:11:02 +0400 Peter Volkov wrote: > В Вск, 05/04/2009 в 22:41 +0200, Timothy Redaelli пишет: > > i think it's better to develop an "emerge --info package" > > It already exists. But regretfully it does not provide useful output > even about the package's USE flags so I susp

Re: [gentoo-dev] headless herds

2009-03-22 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:55:38 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > These herds have no members: > ... < > live-cd: > app-admin/pwgen > app-arch/pbzip2 > app-misc/livecd-tools > dev-python/pyparted > dev-util/catalyst > media-gfx/splash-themes-livecd > sys-apps/ddcxinfo-knoppix > sys-apps/gli > sys-apps/hwda

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:21:23 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: > Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions [...] A multitude of leaves on every branch of the tree. That could be a multiple of the current tree size - maybe talk to infra about this. It's also a multitude of complexity - as an

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-02-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:24:25 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > http://git.pioto.org/gitweb/paludis.git?a=commitdiff;h=86dc61e Thanks. I hope it helps. jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-02-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:55:06 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Heck, Paludis even tells you this if you run --info without a spec: > > > No packages were specified on the command line, so detailed > > information is not available (Paludis can display detailed > > information for both installed and

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-02-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:55:06 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > ...which is why you ask for 'paludis --info pkg', not 'paludis > --info'. Spread the word! jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-02-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:35:00 +0100 Dawid Węgliński wrote: > On Wednesday 18 of February 2009 23:22:12 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > In short, `paludis --info' is not a replacement, and when `emerge > > --info' is asked for in a bug report, post *that*. > > Hi Je

[gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-02-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi folks, both in #gentoo and more importantly in bug reports, people are often asked to provide their `emerge --info', which gives a quick and very useful overview of the most important bits found on the system that wants support or (allegedly) exhibits a bug. Based on that information it i

Re: [gentoo-dev] [v4] Planning for automatic assignment computation of bugs

2009-01-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:02:21 + Mike Auty wrote: > According to [1], "When the file lists multiple entries, then you > assign the bug to the first maintainer, and CC the other > maintainer(s) and herd(s)." So it looks as though the file should go > through the maintainers first and herds seco

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use full package atoms for bug reports

2009-01-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 14:52:11 +0100 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > Please be so kind and use full package atoms in the bug description > line (especially when bug wrangling), searching is made easier that > way. "Bug reports that refer to a single or a few (similar) packages should det

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

2009-01-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:50:07 -0600 Jeremy Olexa wrote: > So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or what? I assume for now that you meant [1]. As far as I can tell, that file would be useable if it didn't just follow whatever policy is set up for layman access to overlays. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

2009-01-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:50:07 -0600 Jeremy Olexa wrote: > So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or what? I specifically didn't go into the minor technical details (of files and formats and so on) and described a basic process. Currently there is no well-defined process, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

2009-01-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:56:15 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > What would really benefit Gentoo would be able to have the package > manager aware of [...] I am sure you know of one that would provide... :) jer

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

2009-01-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi folks, in light of some recent discussions where overlay maintainers found that bug reports had been assigned "incorrectly" and thought it was apt to inform the miscellaneous bug wranglers of the correct assignees, I thought it would be a good idea to introduce a new list, akin to metadat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: ChangeLog use.local.desc

2009-01-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:56:18 -0500 Doug Goldstein wrote: > Probably about as hard as it would be to get you to stop top posting > like an Outlook 95 user... IMHO the problem isn't top posting, but excessive quoting. :) Kind regards, jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automatic filing of stable requests

2008-12-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:40:19 +0100 Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > From both a maintainers and arch-developers view: I'd like to see > automatically generated stable requests, but I'd leave it up to the > maintainer/herd/team to add architectures after a quick review (also > if there's a auto-stable-re

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: mail-client/claws-mail

2008-12-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:00:16 +0100 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > # Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (02 Dec 2008) > # Removal because it has been integrated into Claws Mail > # Either use mail-client/claws-mail-3.6.1 (plain) or 3.6.1-r1 > # (USE=smime) > mail-cl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:26:51 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Words > > like "production", "critical" and "important" can be applied as > > easily to the state of a company's or nation's system as to a > > single person's. > Yes, but it's a relative thing. >huge snip< That's wha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:06:02 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's a "production, critical, important" system, then what is one > doing installing updates on it directly without verifying them on a > generally identical test system first? Now you're ridiculing the idea of havi

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-11-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:42:27 + Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sys-block/viaideinfo And that one. rej

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-11-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:42:27 + Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dev-util/rej Taken. Unavoidable really. :) Kind regards, jer

[gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling from Oct 18 2008 until Oct 25 2008

2008-10-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi everyone, while I am away (from tomorrow until next Saturday - see my away message for the latest details) others will need to do some bug wrangling. Please familiarise yourself with [1] if you choose to participate. Kind regards, JeR [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/bug-wran

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:22:14 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: > Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/abandoned/ > > What about www.unmaintained-free-software.org? Possibly opening a > page?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-06 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:49:04 +0200 Hans de Graaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the suggestion is to have one generic homepage for all > packages without one, not a Gentoo-specific homepage for each project. +1 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/abandoned/ Put that in all ebuilds for packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 04:23:33 +0200 Dawid Węgliński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think it's ok. ~arch isn't training ground. It's supposed to > work, so asking arch teams to keywords packages that are not supposed > to work isn't good. We have a "testing" branch and a "stable" branch, defin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
; have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - www-client/opera-9.60_pre2440 (masked by: package.mask) /keeps/gentoo/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (26 Aug 2008) # www-client/opera snapshots are m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:24:35 +0200 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # Gen 2 Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (`date`) > # Masked for testing. > >=rofl-cat/omgpkg-ver > > > Please people, > > >if you want to get something tested, then do

[gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
# Gen 2 Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (`date`) # Masked for testing. >=rofl-cat/omgpkg-ver Please people, if you want to get something tested, then don't mask it. If you find that you cannot commit an ebuild because of badly keyworded dependencies, then drop the relevant keywords and file a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

2008-09-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:22:12 -0600 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry if this answer can be found elsewhere, but if one has a proxy > maintainer (i.e. not a Gentoo dev) for a package, can/should this > person be added to metadata.xml? Is there a special tag for this? I > can certain

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about stabilization requests

2008-09-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:32:20 +0300 Mart Raudsepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Setting test USE flag is never appropriate as far as I know. > FEATURES=test enables the USE flag on its own, and it should never be > enabled or disabled in a users USE settings in /etc/make.conf or any > other place. F

Re: [gentoo-dev] LICENSE and revbumps

2008-08-26 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:17:48 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should LICENSE changes require a revision bump? No. Any ebuild should be published with a correct reference to a license. If you initially publish the ebuild with a bad reference, you simply correct it later on. It's not a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]

2008-08-15 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:13:26 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is the benefit? > There is none really. Allow all use flags to exist in metadata.xml. > It's really more of a clarification to the GLEP if this is allowed. I personally think that this would facilitate a lot of

Re: [gentoo-dev] best way to use profiles and package.use.mask?

2008-08-15 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:33:04 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As a distribution we should strive to make as many packages available with as many features as possible on as many architectures (or indeed operating systems) as possible.[1] Not communicating important changes in ebuilds t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

2008-08-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:26:18 + (UTC) Xx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I picked this message as the current last in thread to reply to. Please allow me to express my sincere distaste at the hijacking of this retirement announcement thread for (political) profit and/or fun. To the retirees: be

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New developer : Thomas Anderson (gentoofan23)

2008-08-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:43:32 +0200 "Denis Dupeyron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce Thomas Anderson (gentoofan23) as an It seems that you've been living two lives. One life, you're Thomas A. Anderson, program writer for a respectable software company. You have a social s

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions

2008-08-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:50:01 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If people wish to take specific categories, please let this thread > know. I'm working on net-analyzer. Regards, JeR

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:22:35 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:13:44 +0200 > Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:43:06 +0100 > > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:43:06 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People are already doing those other things, and doing them badly, > because there's currently no other option. This isn't some > hypothetical future requirement. When you wrote "doing them badly", did you mean to imp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-client/opera: ChangeLog opera-9.51.ebuild

2008-07-08 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 22:18:06 +0200 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - epatch "${FILESDIR}/${PN}-9.00-install.patch" > > + epatch "${FILESDIR}/${PN}-9.00-install.patch" || \ > > + die "failed to apply install patch" > > epatch dies on its own, so no need for all the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:26:13 +0100 "Tony \"Chainsaw\" Vroon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 01:16 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > 1) How do you feel when you receive an early version bump request? > > If it is for software where I

[gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi fellow developers, it seems I've run into a minor issue with fellow bug wrangler carlo (who has been putting a lot of work into that, for which we should all be grateful). Carsten has a cut-and-paste message that he posts in comments to version bump bug reports that he finds have been fi

[gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Jeroen Roovers
To anyone (else) out there who thinks that bug wranglers should be punished when they make mistakes in the heap of unthankful work they perform on a more than daily basis, I would like you to know that if you reassign bugs (back) to bug-wranglers@ without properly communicating the reason you are d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-19 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:06:21 +0100 David Leverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The reason has already been explained multiple times, kindly stop > with the personal attacks and silly conspiracy theories. In this case the attacks seem to be targeting a person who has been attacking an entire ~300

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removing .la files...

2008-06-19 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:20:10 +0100 David Leverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's to stop an application from loading a "normal" library using > libtool's dlopen wrapper (perhaps so it can fail gracefully if the > library is missing, for example)? That's a pretty basic definition of a plugin.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages broken by phase ordering change

2008-06-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:21:24 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems that everything these days is an EAPI scope change. That's > not very useful for Gentoo, considering it's been quite some time > since PMS was proposed and we've not seen approval for either EAPI=0 > or EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Shiny new stuff

2008-06-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:29:07 +0200 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gentoo Arch Testing Tool: http://gatt.sourceforge.net/> for all > arch workers and testers. I call SPAM! (Now keyworded ~hppa.) Kind regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:27:52 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The current council has raised "never actually deciding anything" to > an art form. Barking up the wrong (portage) tree again? Kindest regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: lastrite: dev-cpp/libherdstat and app-portage/herdstat

2008-06-09 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:44:59 -0700 "Chip Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although it'll be a bit slower than a direct grep: for m in `find > /usr/portage -name metadata.xml `; do grep -Rn foo $m;done That would be horribly slow by comparison. :) Kind regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:21:11 +0100 "Alex Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any time :) In which case I guess maybe Jeroen Roovers (rej / jer) > wants that spot on the ticket? ;) I'd like to nominate him too. > Looks like we'll have plenty of choice this

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite: dev-cpp/libherdstat and app-portage/herdstat

2008-06-07 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:29:28 +0200 Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (07 Jun 2008) > # Various bugs and dead upstream > # herdstat: 164254, 184035, 222887 And bug 206879. Kind regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 18:17:05 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:11:44 +0200 > Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, I would have thought there was a requirement to have been a > > developer for at least a year, j

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:46:53 +0100 George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correct. Only developers can vote but anyone can nominate: > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ > 6. Voting Process > > * Council elections generally happen once a year > > * Anyone can nominate (nomi

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=threads vs. USE=threadsafe

2008-06-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:37:40 +0200 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You may also want to consider the following: > threadsonly [dev-libs/boost] > ithreads [sys-devel/libperl] > orathreads[dev-libs/libsqlora8] > frnothreads [net-dialup/freeradius

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=threads vs. USE=threadsafe

2008-06-02 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:25:29 +0200 Christian Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should be consistent here You may also want to consider the following: threadsonly [dev-libs/boost] ithreads [sys-devel/libperl] orathreads[dev-libs/libsqlora8] frnothreads [net-dialup/f

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-05-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 31 May 2008 01:09:33 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > net-ftp/ncftp Yoink! Kind regards, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Eclass for gnome-python* split

2008-05-26 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 25 May 2008 02:26:42 +0530 "Arun Raghavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if has_version =dev-python/gtkspell-2*; then > LICENSE="GPL-2" > else > LICENSE="LGPL-2.1" > fi > > There is currently *no* way to express this in an ebuild without > invalidating the cache. For now this is ju

Re: [gentoo-dev] FRC: debtools herd creation

2008-05-16 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:19:45 -0500 Yuri Vasilevski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll be adding things like debhelper, lintian and a little > bit later things like apt, aptitude, cdebootstrap, debian-live and > some more. Also there is debootstrap with > [EMAIL PROTECTED] which I'd like to adopt.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Goodbye

2008-05-13 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 13 May 2008 09:33:21 +0300 "Alon Bar-Lev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have fun, > Alon. Thank you, JeR -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Prioritising contact information in metadata.xml

2008-04-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Hi developers and other users, since jakub[1] went completely missing a few weeks ago a few others and I have been wrangling the bugs. I've heard rumours that this isn't working smoothly yet. Of course most of that can be fully blamed on bugzilla itself, but there are some things that need t

Re: [gentoo-dev] retirement

2008-04-22 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:22:14 +0100 Duncan Coutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks especially to the arch teams for all the time they put in for > us in testing and stabilising Haskell packages on such a wide range > of platforms. I feel I should also apologise to jer for constantly > breaking g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-21 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:02:29 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to get technical but how difficult is it really to change USE > flag names? I appreciate that users are out of sync yadda yadda, but > could this kind of thing not be considered out of band data similar > to news? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New global USE flag: keyring

2008-04-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:06:07 +0200 Tiziano Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd say we should convert it to a global use flag now with a good > description and change it to gnome-keyring later in case we really > have a package which needs 'keyring' for something else. Needless to say it would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation

2008-04-17 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:04:36 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:38 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:33:17 +0300 > > Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > "It works. Do i

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