[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-games/crystalspace: ChangeLog crystalspace-1.2.ebuild

Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 21:51 Sun 07 Oct , Michael Sterrett (mr_bones_) wrote: >> 1.1 dev-games/crystalspace/crystalspace-1.2.ebuild >> >> file : >> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-games/crystalspace/crystalspace-1.2.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup >> plain:

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - Sept 30th - Oct 7th, 2007

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Re: [gentoo-dev] new old eclass - wxwidgets.eclass

Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > On E, 2007-09-24 at 21:14 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: >> since everyone is getting into the reviewing mood, i thought it >> would be a good time to get some opinions on the wxwidgets >> eclass rewrite i've done. > > > I fi

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: gnustep-base.eclass

Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 10:51 Fri 05 Oct , Bernard Cafarelli (voyageur) wrote: >> 1.4 eclass/gnustep-base.eclass >> >> file : >> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/eclass/gnustep-base.eclass?rev=1.4&view=markup >> plain: >> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.p

[gentoo-dev] Re: controlling src_test

Ryan Hill wrote: > > here's a crappy little script to automate it. > here's take two. if someone could tell me a simple way to get the category given a package name, including a way to detect ambiguous names, i could drop the dependency on app-portage/udept. anyways it now

[gentoo-dev] Re: controlling src_test

Alin Năstac wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: >> NEWFEATURES= >> >> for f in ${FEATURES}; do >> if [[ ! $f == "test" ]]; then >> NEWFEATURES="${NEWFEATURES} $f" >> fi >> done >> >> FEATURES="${NEWFEATURES

[gentoo-dev] Re: controlling src_test

Ryan Hill wrote: > Rémi Cardona wrote: >> Ravi Pinjala a écrit : >>> I, for one, would like to be able to control whether or not to run tests >>> that take a huge amount of time to run. Some test suites are >>> ridiculously comprehensive, and if we coul

[gentoo-dev] Re: controlling src_test

Rémi Cardona wrote: > Ravi Pinjala a écrit : >> I, for one, would like to be able to control whether or not to run tests >> that take a huge amount of time to run. Some test suites are >> ridiculously comprehensive, and if we could have an option to disable >> only those, or even run a reduced tes

[gentoo-dev] controlling src_test

There are several packages in portage (and even in base-system) that fail in src_test when userpriv/usersandbox is enabled or disabled. That is, some testsuites fail when run as root and some fail if not run as root. I'd like a simple consistent way to mark or handle these packages without disabl

[gentoo-dev] Re: Getting rid of lurking no* USE flags - profile-based package.use

Zac Medico wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: >> SLOT depends are something we could really use right now. What kind of >> time frame are you thinking of? > > Trying to include things that aren't implemented or things that are > controversial will delay it. It's diff

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: sh versionator.eclass

Steve Long wrote: > IMO the real reason you have such an issue with quoting is the redundant > braces which are Gentoo house style; too many newbie scripters think that > cd ${S} is safe when it should be cd "${S}" or more simply cd "$S". I don't > buy the legibility argument since most people use

[gentoo-dev] Re: Getting rid of lurking no* USE flags - profile-based package.use

Zac Medico wrote: > Jason Smathers wrote: >> On 10/2/07, *Robin H. Johnson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > wrote: > >> Hi Guys, > >> Before dberholz complains about my next commit, given that we have >> support in profiles for package.use, how soon can we start to u

[gentoo-dev] Re: locking wxGTK dependencies

Ryan Hill wrote: > One of the (too many) things we need to do to get wxGTK-2.8 into the tree is > lock all packages in portage with wxGTK DEPENDS to the 2.6 SLOT. I will also need to lock wxpython since it pulls in the corresponding wxGTK SLOT. I'll be touching these ebuilds: [EMAI

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for October

Mike Frysinger wrote: > This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the > 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! As in the past these threads have been usually less-than-technical, i wonder if they should be done on -project? --

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - Sept 23rd - 30th, 2007

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[gentoo-dev] Re: stripping out the DO NOT REPLY from bugzie emails

Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Benno Schulenberg wrote: >> Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>> DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. Also, do not reply via email to the >>> person whose email is mentioned below. To comment on this bug, >>> please visit: >> >> Please consider lowercasing the first sentence, to stop the yell

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/pygobject: ChangeLog pygobject-2.14.0.ebuild

Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 13:15 Wed 26 Sep , Mart Raudsepp (leio) wrote: >> 1.1 dev-python/pygobject/pygobject-2.14.0.ebuild >> >> file : >> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-python/pygobject/pygobject-2.14.0.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup >> plain: >> http://

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/bigloo: ChangeLog bigloo-3.0b_p2.ebuild

Alec Warner wrote: > You should not use $FEATURES in an ebuild as they are not meant to be > part of the API. Can someone put something in the dev guide about this? I was looking for exactly this answer a week or so ago and couldn't find anything. ;) -- fonts / wxWindows / gc

[gentoo-dev] Re: new old eclass - wxwidgets.eclass

Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 21:14 Mon 24 Sep , Ryan Hill wrote: >> - is the stuff in global scope kosher? i've seen other eclasses do >> similar, but i want to be sure. the reason for the looping is because >> i figure calling built_with_use in global would g

[gentoo-dev] new old eclass - wxwidgets.eclass

since everyone is getting into the reviewing mood, i thought it would be a good time to get some opinions on the wxwidgets eclass rewrite i've done. it's pretty simple and i hope the docs make it self-explanatory. a couple things: - is the stuff in global scope kosher? i've seen other eclasses

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-fs/udev: ChangeLog udev-115-r6.ebuild

Duncan wrote: > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 24 Sep 2007 > 13:09:57 -0700: > >> For tests, pick a style >> [[ ]] or [ ] and stick with it. The [[ ]] one is pretty nice because it >> generally doesn't require quotes, so the code looks a l

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - Sept 16th - 23rd, 2007

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[gentoo-dev] Re: "Trivial" commit reviews

Mike Doty wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> Mike Doty (KingTaco) just told me I could stop sending reviews to -dev >> that are just about adding quotes or other trivial issues that come up >> over and over. I'm going to tell you why it's still a good thing. >> >> First, where one problem lurks, ot

[gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-x86 commit in dev-db/firebird: ChangeLog metadata.xml firebird-2.0.3.12981.0-r1.ebuild firebird-2.0.1.12855.0-r4.ebuild firebird-2.0.1.12855.0-r5.ebuild

William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 10:29 +0200, Torsten Veller wrote: >>> pkg_postinst() { >>> # Hack to fix ownership/perms >>> chown -fR firebird:firebird /etc/firebird /usr/share/firebird >>> chmod 750 /etc/firebird >>> >> ROOT!=/ ? >> >>> pkg_config() { >>> cd

[gentoo-dev] locking wxGTK dependencies

One of the (too many) things we need to do to get wxGTK-2.8 into the tree is lock all packages in portage with wxGTK DEPENDS to the 2.6 SLOT. This is because the way the eclass works requires ebuilds to specify the SLOT they need in order to know what configuration scripts to use. (ie. an ebui

[gentoo-dev] Re: commit reviewing ... new list or keep it on -dev ?

Mike Frysinger wrote: > ive been sending private e-mails as i didnt want to make a lot of noise, but > many of the comments i make i imagine would be applicable to a lot of > people ... i also see others doing reviews and such > > how do people feel about responses ? keep them all on gentoo-dev

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - September 9th - 16th 2007

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: font.eclass

Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 02:20 Sun 16 Sep , Ryan Hill (dirtyepic) wrote: >> dirtyepic07/09/16 02:20:05 >> >> Modified: font.eclass >> Log: >> Forgot to remove -v flag from chmod. > >> @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ >> for su

[gentoo-dev] Re: net-wireless/ipw3945{,d} needs your help

Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 11:09:32AM +0200, Christian Heim wrote: >> The package itself is hopefully going away when iwl3945 is finally useable. > What do you mean finally usable? > > I've been using iwl3945 on my laptop for close on 2 months, with no > issues in the last

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - September 2nd - 10th 2007

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[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - August 27th - September 2nd 2007 take two

Here's the new list including the gstreamer-0.8 packages. Disregard the previous mail. -- dirtyepicyou'd be tossed up or wash up, the narrator relates gentoo org in a spartan antarctican walk for many days 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8) app-emacs/

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last Rites - August 27th - September 2nd 2007

Marius Mauch wrote: > Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm not so sure. The last rites have historically always been for >> complete removals of a package from the tree. Is there any reason to >> change it? > > Well, different slots and different packages can be considered to be the >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last Rites - August 27th - September 2nd 2007

Lars Weiler wrote: > * Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07/09/02 17:44 -0600]: >> plan on doing version-specific masks in the future unless someone can >> come up with a good argument for it. > > Slots? That's a good argument. -- dirtyepicyou'd be tosse

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last Rites - August 27th - September 2nd 2007

Samuli Suominen wrote: > On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:51:55 -0600 > Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> enjoy. >> > > Broken list.. Lastrited entire GStreamer 0.8, which includes removal of > some plugins like gst-plugins-dts, not shown here. >From what I

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - August 27th - September 2nd 2007

enjoy. -- dirtyepicyou'd be tossed up or wash up, the narrator relates gentoo org in a spartan antarctican walk for many days 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8) app-emacs/slime-cvsUlrich Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 27 Sep 2007 dev

[gentoo-dev] Re: app-arch/rpm needs a maintainer

Andrey Falko wrote: > I am not 100% sure if this is possible, but may a non-dev like myself > take up its maintenance? I use rpm a fair amount and know a decent > amount about it (I maintain a RHEL4 server + I wrote my B.A. Thesis on > package mangers). Taking a quick look > (http://bugs.gentoo.or

[gentoo-dev] Re: app-arch/rpm needs a maintainer

Caleb Tennis wrote: > Title says it all. There are a lot of open bugs, and I'm trying to clear up > some > sys-libs/db dependency issues. Does anyone use this package and want to > maintain > it? After looking at the open bugs, i think this needs someone more familiar with rpm. One thing I do

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - August 12th - 20th 2007

One day late but moving fast, attached are the packages that have been masked for removal 20070812-20070820. -- dirtyepicyou'd be tossed up or wash up, the narrator relates gentoo org in a spartan antarctican walk for many days 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0

[gentoo-dev] Re: app-arch/rpm needs a maintainer

Caleb Tennis wrote: > Title says it all. There are a lot of open bugs, and I'm trying to clear up > some > sys-libs/db dependency issues. Does anyone use this package and want to > maintain > it? I've been toying with the idea of taking it, or at least fixing it up a bit so it doesn't look so

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:12 +, Duncan wrote: >> Isn't the point, however, that if it's a die if the do* is on a file that >> no longer exists, the maintainer will see it when they test, take care of >> it, and as a result, it shouldn't ever hit the user? > > Y

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - August 5th - 12th 2007

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Some ideas on how to reduce territoriality

Petteri Räty wrote: > Steev Klimaszewski kirjoitti: >> Vlastimil Babka wrote: >> >>> dodoc calls should have || die and USE=doc should be tested before >>> commiting a bump, IMHO >>> >> Sorry, I didn't realize my 3 hour compile of $APPLICATION should die >> because TODO wasn't around. Vote against

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - July 29 - August 5, 2007

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[gentoo-dev] Re: why? pciutils with zlib use-flag went stable on x86

Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 05:19:02PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: >>> Oh! Really? Which ones? >> app-laptop/smcinit >> app-misc/ddccontrol >> sys-apps/hwsetup >> sys-apps/{lib,}kudzu >> sys-apps/vbetool >> sys-boot/efibootmgr >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Release managment

Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > Martin Michlmayr, Debian Project Leader from 2003 to 2005, has finished > his Phd thesis about "Quality improvement in volunteer software > projects" [1] > > V-Li > > P.S.: Is -dev the correct list? I would say this is perfect for -project. It's a thesis o

[gentoo-dev] Re: why? pciutils with zlib use-flag went stable on x86

Sven Köhler wrote: >> There are many more ebuilds than just hal which fail with a compressed >> pci.ids file. And many of them are non-obvious. It took me more than >> I little bit of effort after the zlib USE flag was first added to the >> pciutils ebuild to figure out why so many packages where

[gentoo-dev] Re: New (old) Developer: Dimitry Brad (diox)

Christian Heim wrote: > It's my pleasure to (re)-introduce to you Dimitry Brad (also known as diox on > IRC), our latest addition joining the x86 arch monkeys. > > Dimitry has been a Gentoo Developer for quite some time (it has been nearly a > year now), and he finally sent in his ebuild quiz an

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - July 16 - 29, 2007

5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8) x11-misc/fsv Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>21 Aug 2007 media-fonts/artwiz-fonts Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 23 Aug 2007 net-firewall/fireflier Markus Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>24

[gentoo-dev] Re: why? pciutils with zlib use-flag went stable on x86

Wulf C. Krueger wrote: >> Why did you provocate this breakage? >> This is not a good idea, IMHO. > > I think so, too. cf. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166790 That has got to be one of the stupidest bug reports i've ever seen. -- dirtyepicyou'd be tossed up or wash up, the narrator

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites for media-fonts/twmoefonts

Ryan Hill wrote: > These fonts are severely busted. See bug #115110. > > Masked for removal in 30 days. Removed. -- dirtyepicyou'd be tossed up or wash up, the narrator relates gentoo org in a spartan antarctican walk for many days 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: x11-misc/fsv

Ryan Hill wrote: > Steve Long wrote: > >> aiui, if there are no bugs the package goes to maintainer-wanted so a user >> can pick it up for sunrise. > > Almost. Sunrise can only handle maintainer-needed packages; those that > aren't in the tree yet. Bah, I screwe

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite: x11-misc/fsv

Steve Long wrote: > aiui, if there are no bugs the package goes to maintainer-wanted so a user > can pick it up for sunrise. Almost. Sunrise can only handle maintainer-needed packages; those that aren't in the tree yet. -- dirtyepicyou'd be tossed up or wash up, the narrator relates gento

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: media-fonts/artwiz-fonts

Ryan Hill wrote: > # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (23 Jul 2007) > # duplicated by media-fonts/artwiz-aleczapka-en. use that instead. > # Bug #186400 > media-fonts/artwiz-fonts Unmasked until artwiz-aleczapka-en gets the appropriate keywording. Sorry about that. -- dir

[gentoo-dev] Re: joining the Software Freedom Conservancy

Ryan Hill wrote: > Michael Cummings wrote: > >>>> a. The Project Will Be Free Software. The Conservancy and the Project >>>> agree that >>>>any software distributed by the Project will be distributed solely as >>>> Free Software. >

[gentoo-dev] Re: joining the Software Freedom Conservancy

Michael Cummings wrote: >>> a. The Project Will Be Free Software. The Conservancy and the Project >>> agree that >>>any software distributed by the Project will be distributed solely as >>> Free Software. >> If that's not a problem I think this is a great idea. > It's not a problem - wh

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/artwiz-fonts

# Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (23 Jul 2007) # duplicated by media-fonts/artwiz-aleczapka-en. use that instead. # Bug #186400 media-fonts/artwiz-fonts -- dirtyepicyou'd be tossed up or wash up, the narrator relates gentoo org in a spartan antarctican walk for many

[gentoo-dev] Re: New lists and their usage

Jan Kundrát wrote: > Then it's worth cross-posting -core or -dev-announce or similar. I > thought that goal of -project was to keep devs away from poisonous > content without impairing their Gentoo-awareness. I'd like to think that the goal of -project is to let devs who are only interested in te

[gentoo-dev] Re: Getting -project started

Duncan wrote: > Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], > excerpted below, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:29:19 -0500: > > [About the project list as carried on gmane.] > >> I had to send the confirmation email twice then it started sending me >> emails. WE may have caught it before we shoul

[gentoo-dev] Re: New lists and their usage

Chris Gianelloni wrote: > gentoo-dev: This list is for technical discussion, primarily between > developers, about development and development-related issues that > directly affect the tree or current projects. For now, no changes are > made to this list. technical discussion > gentoo-projects:

[gentoo-dev] Re: joining the Software Freedom Conservancy

Marius Mauch wrote: > While I think this would be an excellent move, there are a few topics > that concern me a bit: > 1) just to be sure, did someone check the transfer agreement between the > Foundation and the old Gentoo, Inc for potential problems? > 2) what would this mean for our copyright si

[gentoo-dev] Re: Getting -project started

Robin H. Johnson wrote: > gentoo-project > gentoo-dev-announce These are on gmane now as well. -dev-announce as RO and -project as RW. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suck an ancient virus from the sea 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3

[gentoo-dev] Re: x86 toolchain changes heads up

Vlastimil Babka wrote: > Peter Gordon wrote: >> On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 19:47 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> historically, gcc on x86 has always defaulted to i386. some people noticed >>> recently that glibc-2.6 fails to build in this situation as they were only >>> setting -mtune via CFLAGS, no

[gentoo-dev] Re: For Jakub (and the other procmail-impaired)

Steve Long wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > >> :0 >> * ^List-Id:.gentoo-dev.gentoo.org. >> * ^Subject:.*ML changes >> /dev/null >> > Sorry was there some reason the rest of us had to read this? If so, please > explain it like a responsible Council member. Or is this your swansong? If > so it's l

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

Torsten Veller wrote: > | for the quick low down: > | - nominations are from July 1 through July 31 > | - anyone can nominate > | - only Gentoo devs may be nominated > | > | so get with the nominating people ! I noticed Kumba isn't nominated, so I'll throw him into the ring. -- dirtyepic

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Pierre-Yves Rofes (p-y)

Petteri Räty wrote: > Please give him the usual flamy welcome. ... py... -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suck an ancient virus from the sea 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8) -- [EMAIL PROTECT

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grab

Christian Heim wrote: > Here are some more :| > > Previously maintained by Elfyn McBratney (beu): > - app-doc/howto-html > - app-doc/howto-html-single > - app-doc/single-unix-specification I'll take these. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org

[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

Christina Fullam wrote: > I suppose the problem is high-volume and excessive flaming/trolling/OT. > The proposed solution asks that every developer take an active role, > yes, so that could easily equal more work - but I have little doubts > that there are developers that will take an interest in

[gentoo-dev] Re: Smoother moderation scheme?

Alin Năstac wrote: > Do you have a solution to filter flamefests out of a ml? If you do, > please share it with the list. Please give one example of a mailing list plagued by flamefests that successfully solved their problems by adopting moderation without completely alienating their communities.

[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

Christina Fullam wrote: > I think everyone is overlooking the part included previously: > "An additional method discussed was to have all non-dev emails on a > timeout, pick a number of hours, and then the email if not moderated > would be released. (non-dev sends his email, time period expires and

[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

Daniel Ostrow wrote: > I as a developer find it very difficult to cut though what I consider > noise to find the bits that I consider important to being able to > continue being an effective developer on a list that I am *required* to > be subscribed to. We have considered the likes of a moderated

[gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

Mike Doty wrote: > All- > > We're going to change the -dev mailing list from completely open to where only > devs can post, but any dev could moderate a non-dev post. devs who moderate > in > bad posts will be subject to moderation themselves. in addition the > gentoo-project list will be crea

[gentoo-dev] Re: Call for more photos on planet.g.o

Rémi Cardona wrote: > People with funky pictures > - dirtyepic As a rule I don't put pictures of myself on publically accessible websites. That way no one knows that I'm really Wil Wheaton. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suck an

[gentoo-dev] Re: Feedback req: Confirm/thank on bug fix or is that unwanted bug spam?

Duncan wrote: > When I open or CC on a bug that then gets fixed, I often feel like adding > a thanks to the bug. However, while it may be polite in other > circumstances, in this case it could be viewed as bug spam, so I've > hesitated. I don't think anyone can be opposed to a thank you. Ke

[gentoo-dev] Re: glibc-2.6 / gcc-4.2 going into ~arch

Mike Frysinger wrote: > get your "waaait dont do it" votes in now, i plan on pushing: > glibc-2.6 ~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86 > gcc-4.2.0 ~amd64 ~x86 > in the next day or so > -mike Now that the futimens patch is in coreutils, i heartily endorse this event or product. BTW, the GCC 4.2 porting tra

[gentoo-dev] Re: cyclic dependency

Vlastimil Babka wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: >> It doesn't. See freetype which requires >=fontconfig-2.3 at runtime >> which in turn requires freetype at runtime. Bug #179736. > I think the problem is that fontconfig has freetype not just in RDEPEND > but also

[gentoo-dev] Re: cyclic dependency

Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > Vieri Di Paola wrote: >> The two software packages depend at run-time. > > then they can simply RDEPEND on eachother. The package manager should do the > right thing. It doesn't. See freetype which requires >=fontconfig-2.3 at runtime which in turn requires freet

[gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs on masked packages

Mart Raudsepp wrote: > I've been operating on the premise that I am the maintainer of the > package in question and marking it as WONTFIX and making it depend on > the removal bug while at it. I don't see what's wrong in that.. > If the removal gets reverted, all the depending bugs should be seen

[gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs on masked packages

Petteri Räty wrote: > Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: >> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Yes. When you click the Keywords link it takes you to a description >>> page: https://bugs.gentoo.org/describekeywords.cgi >> Sure, I'm aware of that. But where do I hear about the addition of new >> o

[gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

Hey all, just a friendly request: If you do happen to mask a package for removal, please do not close any bugs against the package on the basis that it's being removed. There have been several cases where bugs get closed WONTFIX or INVALID, the removal is reversed for whatever reason, and the bu

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-fonts/twmoefonts

These fonts are severely busted. See bug #115110. Masked for removal in 30 days. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suck an ancient virus from the sea 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8) -- [EMAIL PR

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites for net-dialup/multiimonc

Ryan Hill wrote: > net-dialup/multiimonc has a dependency on wxGTK-2.4 which is being > removed from the tree. upstream (aka hansmi) and net-dialup have no > interest in keeping it. masked for removal July 21, 2007. BTW https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182748 --

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-dialup/multiimonc

net-dialup/multiimonc has a dependency on wxGTK-2.4 which is being removed from the tree. upstream (aka hansmi) and net-dialup have no interest in keeping it. masked for removal July 21, 2007. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suc

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Ali Polatel (hawking)

Petteri Räty wrote: > It's my usual pleasure to introduce to you Ali "hawking" Polatel who > will be joining us to help with the netmon stuff. Ali hails us from > Turkey. He is currently a physics engineering stupid in the Istanbul > Technical University and a real wizard in chess. He is the Nation

[gentoo-dev] Re: Pony Colour Schemes [was: QA issue: No stable skype in Tree]

Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> If the Gentoo developers as a whole decided to dedicate this list to >> pink ponies, we can. > > Are pretty purple ponies acceptable as well? As *everybody* knows, purple ponies aren't pretty. Well, maybe a little bit. -- dirtyepic

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

Brian Harring wrote: > Guess I'll be the killjoy, and throw in the -1 on it. > > Reasons are pretty straightforward (at least to me): I originally agreed with you, but after giving it some thought I think it might help. > 1) Creating such channels is just attempting to shift the problem out >

[gentoo-dev] Re: irregular metdata.xml check

Thilo Bangert wrote: > "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> See the thread about automatic assignment for more about this. >> More importantly, once the automatic stuff goes into play, the >> existence of the herd tag will only matter on metadata that does not >> have any other maintain

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

Kumba wrote: > Anyways, thoughts? Yes please. -- dirtyepic salesman said this vacuum's guaranteed gentoo org it could suck an ancient virus from the sea 9B81 6C9F E791 83BB 3AB3 5B2D E625 A073 8379 37E8 (0x837937E8) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Last Rites] dev-ruby/wxruby

Ryan Hill wrote: > # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29 Apr 2007) > # Has a hard dependency on wxGTK-2.4 (bug #164148) > # Replacement: wxruby2 (bug #107682) > # Masked for removal May 29, 2007 > dev-ruby/wxruby > Removed. -- dirtyepic salesman said

[gentoo-dev] www-servers/boa wants YOU...

...to maintain it. Boa is "a single-tasking HTTP server. That means that unlike traditional Web servers, it does not fork for each incoming connection, nor does it fork many copies of itself to handle multiple connections. It internally multiplexes all of the ongoing HTTP connections, and forks

[gentoo-dev] Re: 'stricter' FEATURE and "poor programming practices" notice

Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Hans de Graaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My view is that if this is a QA notice then, if a package doesn't >> emerge because of it, it is a Gentoo QA bug and package maintainers >> should be responsible for fixing it. > Gentoo should not be applying patches simply to

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] missing tag in metadata.xml

Thilo Bangert wrote: > open questions: > > - what does it mean when the package is maintained by a herd and an >additional maintainer? how does one determine the order in which to >contact multiple maintainers? See "Planning for automatic assignment of bugs" (http://thread.gmane.org/gma

[gentoo-dev] Re: invalid in metadata.xml

Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Thilo Bangert wrote: >> All packages with maintainer-needed will be moved to >> no-herd. > > I think that is not quite right, and since maintainer-needed is not a > maintainer but multiple people listening to the alias and users I would > like to suggest the following add

[gentoo-dev] Re: Optional Package Dependencies for netscape-flash -> libflashsupport

Jim Ramsay wrote: > This libflashsupport-1.2 will have the following use flags: > > pulseaudio oss esd ssl gnutls > > Now, I was thinking that it would be much easier for users if > the netscape-flash ebuild automatically pulled this in, and was > wondering the best way to do this. I have 2 i

[gentoo-dev] Re: tests

Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > Hello, > > There was some discussion about forcing/not forcing tests in EAPI-1, but > there > was clearly no compromise. Imho, tests are very important and thus I want to > discuss them a little more, but in more sensible fashion. > > Firstly each test can be(not all

[gentoo-dev] Re: [Last Rites] app-pda/plucker

Ryan Hill wrote: > # Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29 Apr 2007) > # Has a hard dependency on wxGTK-2.4 (bug #121818) > # Replacement: sunrise? http://sourceforge.net/projects/sunrisexp/ > # Masked for removal May 29, 2007 > app-pda/plucker plucker will not be removed

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites] app-pda/plucker

# Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29 Apr 2007) # Has a hard dependency on wxGTK-2.4 (bug #121818) # Replacement: sunrise? http://sourceforge.net/projects/sunrisexp/ # Masked for removal May 29, 2007 app-pda/plucker -- where to now? if i had to guess dir

[gentoo-dev] [Last Rites] dev-ruby/wxruby

# Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (29 Apr 2007) # Has a hard dependency on wxGTK-2.4 (bug #164148) # Replacement: wxruby2 (bug #107682) # Masked for removal May 29, 2007 dev-ruby/wxruby -- where to now? if i had to guess dirtyepic gentoo orgi'

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please fix your metadata.xml ASAP

Ned Ludd wrote: > With the loss of our recent bug-wrangler infra will probably be moving > to automated system of reassignment of bugs. In order for this to happen > you need to properly have your and tags listed in > the metadata.xml files. Things such as maintainer "postgresql" are not > val

[gentoo-dev] Re: Deskzilla license for Gentoo Bugzilla for everyone

Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote: >>> Please find attached a site license for Gentoo Linux project. Feel >>> free to share the license key with anyone interested or post it on the >>> web. The license allows any number of users, and it is locked to >>> Gentoo Linux Bugzilla URL. If in the future the U

[gentoo-dev] Re: [POLICY] Keywording/Stabilizing Bug Assignment Policy

Doug Goldstein wrote: > Once all but the last arch has keyworded said package, it is acceptable > and proper for a bug wrangler and/or maintainer/herd to re-assign the > bug to the last remaining arch and they remove that arch from CC. They > should add their herd/maintainer to the CC of the bug.

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