Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-06-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:17:31 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:14:11 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: A more reasonable approach would be for the Council to permit the tree to contain at most 6 wrong lines at any given time. That

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-06-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 20:58:46 +0200 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:17:31 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:14:11 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: A more reasonable approach would be for the Council

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-06-03 Thread hasufell
Tom Wijsman: On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 20:58:46 +0200 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:17:31 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:14:11 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: A more reasonable approach would be for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-06-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:35:13 + hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Tom Wijsman: On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 20:58:46 +0200 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:17:31 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:14:11 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 06:10:40PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 I'll p.mask it on amd64 profiles if noone replies soon :( My excuse is AFK

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 31/05/14 22:41, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 06:10:40PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 I'll p.mask it on amd64

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-31 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On May 31, 2014 8:42 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 06:10:40PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:46:35PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: The patch in the bug is not enough. Notice http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828#c13 Those should be reseted to too. Read what I applied, I did set it to . -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Developer, Infrastructure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 08:51:39PM +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote: On May 31, 2014 8:42 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 06:10:40PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 31/05/14 23:00, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:46:35PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: The patch in the bug is not enough. Notice http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828#c13 Those should be reseted to too. Read what I applied, I did set it to . Thanks, looks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-31 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: No, I don't agree that kernel configs belong to kernel packages. In general, barring the crazy option explosion, these are meant to be stock working configs that should in combination with ANY kernel package, produce

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-31 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:42:17 +0100 Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: No, I don't agree that kernel configs belong to kernel packages. In general, barring the crazy option explosion, these are meant to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 11:16:35PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 31/05/14 23:00, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:46:35PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: The patch in the bug is not enough. Notice http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828#c13 Those should be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:42:17PM +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote: On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: No, I don't agree that kernel configs belong to kernel packages. In general, barring the crazy option explosion, these are meant to be stock working

[gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 I'll p.mask it on amd64 profiles if noone replies soon :( - Samuli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:10:40 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 I'll p.mask it on amd64 profiles if noone replies soon :(

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 30/05/14 19:10, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:10:40 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 I'll p.mask it on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 30/05/14 19:16, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 30/05/14 19:10, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:10:40 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread hasufell
Tom Wijsman: Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... That's nonsense. The amount of wrong lines doesn't matter. A single wrong line in the kernel can break your whole system as well. Please p.mask (or patch) immediately. There is no point in waiting.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/05/14 18:10, Tom Wijsman wrote: Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... So if an ebuild does rm -rf / --no-preserve-root, it should not be masked as long as it does not break the command into several lines? - -- Alexander

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2014 11:10 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 I'll p.mask it on amd64 profiles if noone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:26:38 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I'll give it 48 hours and then p.mask it. Genkernel itself does work; so, there is no point to masking it. I won't be fixing it. Someone else here can, but wait for someone like Pacho to look into the activity of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Alexander Tsoy
В Fri, 30 May 2014 18:10:40 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org пишет: I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461828 I'll p.mask it on amd64 profiles if noone replies soon :(

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Ben Kohler
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:26:38 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I'll give it 48 hours and then p.mask it. Genkernel itself does work; so, there is no point to masking it. I like the message the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 16:34:09 + hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Tom Wijsman: Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... That's nonsense. The amount of wrong lines doesn't matter. A single wrong line in the kernel can break your whole system as well. Please p.mask (or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:43:14 +0200 Alexander Berntsen berna...@gentoo.org wrote: On 30/05/14 18:10, Tom Wijsman wrote: Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... So if an ebuild does rm -rf / --no-preserve-root, [...] Does Genkernel do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/05/14 19:11, Tom Wijsman wrote: Well, let's just mask the whole tree; there are wrong lines everywhere. It is not a matter of quantity but severity. $ echo Dnoe $ rm -rf / --no-preserve-root Same quantity, somewhat different severity. -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:11:54 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Well, let's just mask the whole tree; there are wrong lines everywhere. A more reasonable approach would be for the Council to permit the tree to contain at most 6 wrong lines at any given time. That way any developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 20:51:09 +0400 Alexander Tsoy alexan...@tsoy.me wrote: В Fri, 30 May 2014 18:10:40 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org пишет: I can't find anyone with access that actually replies to mails, pings, ... to genkernel repository for:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:14:42 +0200 Alexander Berntsen berna...@gentoo.org wrote: On 30/05/14 19:11, Tom Wijsman wrote: Well, let's just mask the whole tree; there are wrong lines everywhere. It is not a matter of quantity but severity. $

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 18:14:11 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:11:54 +0200 A more reasonable approach would be for the Council to permit the tree to contain at most 6 wrong lines at any given time. That way any developer wishing to add a new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/05/14 01:14 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:11:54 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Well, let's just mask the whole tree; there are wrong lines everywhere. A more reasonable approach would be for the Council

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/05/14 19:18, Tom Wijsman wrote: Well, this thread's problem is not severe at all; thus, no need to mask. I disagree. I'm with ssuominen. Do with that information what you will... - -- Alexander berna...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:26:38 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I have no plans in inserting my name to genkernel's ChangeLog, and I've done my best to contact people (nobody cares) Only initramfs tool I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Ben Kohler bkoh...@gmail.com wrote: As nice at it sounds to just DROP these configs, that option is not really feasible considering the way we currently use genkernel in our handbook. Relying on the kernel's own defconfig, genkernel all will NOT produce the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Fabio Erculiani
configs should have never gotten into genkernel in the first place. it's each kernel pkg (or even version) that owns a valid config of itself. I am part of genkernel@ but I have no will nor time to fix it. And when I have, I'd rather work on genkernel-next, that comes with a much more readable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/30/2014 01:39 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: configs should have never gotten into genkernel in the first place. it's each kernel pkg (or even version) that owns a valid config of itself. I am part of genkernel@ but I have no will nor time to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 13:32:54 -0400 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Ben Kohler bkoh...@gmail.com wrote: As nice at it sounds to just DROP these configs, that option is not really feasible considering the way we currently use genkernel in our handbook.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 13:22:54 -0400 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: While all this bickering is nice to read, what is really needed is: 1. Somebody needs to step up and actually fix genkernel. And that's why we await the maintainers' or undertakers' response. With undertakers, I mean

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Ben Kohler
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Good idea, we really could use some kind of kernel seeds in the Portage tree; if someone is willing to maintain them, knowing that Pappy has maintained them for years and spoke about it it seems like hard work. Remember

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:21:20 +0200 Alexander Berntsen berna...@gentoo.org wrote: On 30/05/14 19:18, Tom Wijsman wrote: Well, this thread's problem is not severe at all; thus, no need to mask. I disagree. I'm with ssuominen. Do with that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Fri, 30 May 2014 13:08:50 -0500 Ben Kohler bkoh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Good idea, we really could use some kind of kernel seeds in the Portage tree; if someone is willing to maintain them, knowing that Pappy has

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:34:09PM +, hasufell wrote: Tom Wijsman: Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... That's nonsense. The amount of wrong lines doesn't matter. A single wrong line in the kernel can break your whole system as well. Please p.mask (or patch)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread hasufell
Sven Vermeulen: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:34:09PM +, hasufell wrote: Tom Wijsman: Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... That's nonsense. The amount of wrong lines doesn't matter. A single wrong line in the kernel can break your whole system as well. Please p.mask (or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 30. Mai 2014, 19:14:11 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: On Fri, 30 May 2014 19:11:54 +0200 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Well, let's just mask the whole tree; there are wrong lines everywhere. A more reasonable approach would be for the Council to permit the tree to contain

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone with access to genkernel repository? Or should genkernel be p.masked on amd64 profiles?

2014-05-30 Thread Alexander Tsoy
On Fri May 30 22:30:32 2014 Sven Vermeulen sw...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:34:09PM +, hasufell wrote: Tom Wijsman: Please no p.mask for a single line being wrong... That's nonsense. The amount of wrong lines doesn't matter. A single wrong line in the