Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-24 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/23/2010 11:07 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday, August 23, 2010 16:21:44 Luca Barbato wrote: I'd put openrc on freedesktop btw. we've sort of already settled into the places ... jumping to another place doesnt gain us much. current infrastructure also already enables all the

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-23 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 09:03:41PM -0400, Olivier Cr?te wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done. it certainly doesnt warrant a paniced the sky is falling message. I think this is a great occasion

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-23 Thread Luca Barbato
On 07/05/2010 03:03 AM, Olivier Crête wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done. it certainly doesnt warrant a paniced the sky is falling message. I think this is a great occasion to dump our stupid

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/23/2010 04:21 PM, Luca Barbato wrote: On 07/05/2010 03:03 AM, Olivier Crête wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done. it certainly doesnt warrant a

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, August 23, 2010 16:21:44 Luca Barbato wrote: I'd put openrc on freedesktop btw. we've sort of already settled into the places ... jumping to another place doesnt gain us much. current infrastructure also already enables all the Gentoo devs who wish to contribute

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-06 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: * Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org schrieb: What you are saying makes sense for desktop users since they will likely already have consolekit/policykit/nm-applet installed, and hence using NetworkManager for all

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-05 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 07/05/10 03:03, Olivier Crête wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done. it certainly doesnt warrant a paniced the sky is falling message. I think this is a great occasion to dump our stupid

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com schrieb: Requiring policykit, let alone networkmanager and dbus as a default is not something I'd personally agree with as a sane choice. If you're trying to build *just* a desktop distro, sure, it's sane. We're not however, thus invalidating those

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org schrieb: What you are saying makes sense for desktop users since they will likely already have consolekit/policykit/nm-applet installed, and hence using NetworkManager for all network management makes sense. Actually, I've got several Gentoo-based

[gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Lars Wendler
Hi list, now that openrc has no active upstram anymore [1] what shall we do? To be honest I was really looking forward for openrc/baselayout-2 finally becoming stable in Gentoo but this seems to be quite implausible now that openrc has no upstream anymore. If there's anyone out there who would

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Fabio Erculiani
How are we supposed to handle the amount of installations out there that are using OpenRC then? OpenRC/bl-2 have proven to be a big improvement over the old stuff. I am for fixing current bugs, and keep it maintenance mode at least. I'm already spread over several things but I could give a hand to

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 04-07-2010 a las 16:29 +0200, Lars Wendler escribió: Hi list, now that openrc has no active upstram anymore [1] what shall we do? To be honest I was really looking forward for openrc/baselayout-2 finally becoming stable in Gentoo but this seems to be quite implausible now that

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Markos Chandras
That would be the best but I wonder who has the time to even support this maintenance mode. We could ask for help from our user community. Maybe some of our users are quite familiar with the code and be able to pick up the load fast enough On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Fabio Erculiani

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:29:57 Lars Wendler wrote: now that openrc has no active upstram anymore [1] what shall we do? To be honest I was really looking forward for openrc/baselayout-2 finally becoming stable in Gentoo but this seems to be quite implausible now that openrc has no upstream

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Lars Wendler
Am Sonntag 04 Juli 2010, 23:02:39 schrieb Mike Frysinger: On Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:29:57 Lars Wendler wrote: now that openrc has no active upstram anymore [1] what shall we do? To be honest I was really looking forward for openrc/baselayout-2 finally becoming stable in Gentoo but this

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, July 04, 2010 18:04:29 Lars Wendler wrote: Am Sonntag 04 Juli 2010, 23:02:39 schrieb Mike Frysinger: On Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:29:57 Lars Wendler wrote: now that openrc has no active upstram anymore [1] what shall we do? To be honest I was really looking forward for

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Lars Wendler
Am Montag 05 Juli 2010, 00:15:44 schrieb Mike Frysinger: it certainly doesnt warrant a paniced the sky is falling message. Which I was nowhere trying to imply. I just wanted to have this situation sorted out which now hopefully seems to be the case. -- Lars Wendler (Polynomial-C) Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Olivier Crête
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done. it certainly doesnt warrant a paniced the sky is falling message. I think this is a great occasion to dump our stupid custom crap and switch to SystemD, PolicyKit,

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 09:03:41PM -0400, Olivier Crrrte wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done. it certainly doesnt warrant a paniced the sky is falling message. I think this is a great

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, July 04, 2010 21:03:41 Olivier Crête wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done. it certainly doesnt warrant a paniced the sky is falling message. I think this is a great occasion to dump

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-07-04 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
2010/7/5 Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done.  it certainly doesnt warrant a paniced the sky is falling message. I think this is a great occasion to dump our stupid