On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 05:30:24 +0200
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:05:19 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
You appear to be assuming that those pushing the --as-needed
solution have it finished. This is far from the case. There's still
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 08:23:40AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 05:30:24 +0200
Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:05:19 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
You appear to be assuming that those pushing the --as-needed
On Monday 28 June 2010 02:09:44 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm sure at least half of you are thinking Oh no, not this again...,
and I agree. However, I'm /also/ thinking Why the heck haven't we
done this yet?
[...]
/If/ you're¹ going to insist on doing this, could you please
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 09:46:52 Alex Alexander wrote:
If the community feels their choice, albeit not perfect, will help the
project, you have to respect that. That is, if you want to be part of the
community :)
I see your point to some extent, but the concern is that such decisions might
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 06:25:50PM +0100, David Leverton wrote:
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 09:46:52 Alex Alexander wrote:
If the community feels their choice, albeit not perfect, will help the
project, you have to respect that. That is, if you want to be part of the
community :)
I see your
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:39:44 +0530
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
There's a tracker bug for this, and the problems still remaining are:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=129413hide_resolved=1
You've forgotten make --as-needed not break correct code by making the
On 06/28/2010 10:35 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:39:44 +0530
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
There's a tracker bug for this, and the problems still remaining are:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=129413hide_resolved=1
You've forgotten make
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:44:54 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
You've forgotten make --as-needed not break correct code by making
the linker ignore explicit instructions from a program author to
link two things together. Until you do that, --as-needed is in the
same
On 06/28/2010 10:51 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:44:54 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
You've forgotten make --as-needed not break correct code by making
the linker ignore explicit instructions from a program author to
link two things together. Until you
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 06/28/2010 10:51 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Will Gentoo be doing the same for -Ofast and its flags then? After all,
most packages work with them, and you can't let the few packages that
require standard-compliant
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:08:22 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
This is not about optimizing but preventing clear breakage, the
benefits of asneeded are not under debate here (like already stated
in the original message this thread started from)
--as-needed does not prevent
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 06:39:44AM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
What needs to be done now is for someone with lots of CPU power to
grab the list of packages[1], and build them one-by-one (all
versions), adding to a new list all the ebuilds that fail. How to
test:
LDFLAGS=-Wl,--as-needed
El lun, 28-06-2010 a las 06:39 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan escribió:
Hello everyone,
I'm sure at least half of you are thinking Oh no, not this again...,
and I agree. However, I'm /also/ thinking Why the heck haven't we
done this yet?
We've been discussing this since 2008, and probably waaay
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 06:39:44AM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
What needs to be done now is for someone with lots of CPU power to
grab the list of packages[1], and build them one-by-one (all
versions), adding to a
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 06:39:44AM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
Hello everyone,
...
What needs to be done now is for someone with lots of CPU power to
grab the list of packages[1], and build them one-by-one (all
versions), adding to a new list all the ebuilds that fail. How to
test:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 01:40:46PM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 06/28/2010 10:51 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Will Gentoo be doing the same for -Ofast and its flags then? After all,
most packages work with them,
On 2010.06.28 14:43, Thomas Anderson wrote:
[snip]
Not taking technical sides in this thread simply because I have no
time to
argue it at length, BUT:
Simply because a topic has been discussed to *death* does not
mean
the
correct answer was obtained, only that a majority agree
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:59:21 +0100
Roy Bamford neddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote:
All of engineering involves compromise.
It's not a question of compromise. It's a question of being right vs
being wrong. If one person says that 2 + 2 = 4 and a loud mob screams
that their prophet revealed to them in
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:05:19 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
You appear to be assuming that those pushing the --as-needed solution
have it finished. This is far from the case. There's still a lot of
work that would need to be done, and that work will have to be
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