Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

> On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 2:12 PM Richard Yao wrote: >> >> >> Prestige is good. We have prestige from our (myself and a few others) work >> in upstream ZFS and Gentoo is well respected there. > > Sure, but ZFS on Linux isn't a Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 2:12 PM Richard Yao wrote: > > > Prestige is good. We have prestige from our (myself and a few others) work in > upstream ZFS and Gentoo is well respected there. Sure, but ZFS on Linux isn't a Gentoo project. I'm not saying people who are Gentoo devs can't also do other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

> On Aug 5, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:01 PM Alec Warner wrote: >> >> >> Part of my frustration is that seemingly "anything open source related >> can be held in Gentoo" and I'm somewhat against that as I feel it >> dilutes the Gentoo mission. We

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

> On Aug 5, 2018, at 1:01 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> >> >>> On Jun 23, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Alec Warner wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 3:30 AM, Marty E. Plummer wrote: On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On 05/08/18 18:24, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:01 PM Alec Warner wrote: >> >> Part of my frustration is that seemingly "anything open source related >> can be held in Gentoo" and I'm somewhat against that as I feel it >> dilutes the Gentoo mission. We are here to make a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 1:01 PM Alec Warner wrote: > > > Part of my frustration is that seemingly "anything open source related > can be held in Gentoo" and I'm somewhat against that as I feel it > dilutes the Gentoo mission. We are here to make a distribution, not > maintain random libraries. If

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On 05/08/18 18:01, Alec Warner wrote [excerpted]: > > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Richard Yao > wrote: > > > > On Jun 23, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Alec Warner > wrote: > >> >> I suspect this might be better done in the Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > > > On Jun 23, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 3:30 AM, Marty E. Plummer > wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 09:22:00AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: >> > W dniu pią, 22.06.2018 o godzinie 21∶50 -0500,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

> On Jun 23, 2018, at 9:05 AM, Jonas Stein wrote: > >> On 2018-06-23 04:57, Marty E. Plummer wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 09:50:50PM -0500, Marty E. Plummer wrote: >>> So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to an >>> autotools based build. Recently I've ran

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

> On Jun 23, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 3:30 AM, Marty E. Plummer >> wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 09:22:00AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: >> > W dniu pią, 22.06.2018 o godzinie 21∶50 -0500, użytkownik Marty E. >> > Plummer napisał: >> > > So,

Re: mcrypt status (Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs)

Hi, On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 07:29:47 -0700 Hanno Böck wrote: > > Symmetric cryptography is quite conservative and it took years and > > even decades for algorithms and their implementations to become > > trusted, so there is nothing wrong in using good old verified > > software. > > When it comes to

Re: mcrypt status (Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs)

On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 13:05:56 -0500 Marty E. Plummer wrote: [...] > It seems that every last person commenting on this is talking mcrypt, > not mhash, which is what I mentioned in the first place. As far as I can > tell, these are entirely differnt projects which just happen to have a > similar

Re: mcrypt status (Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs)

On Sat, Aug 04, 2018 at 11:43:28AM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 07:59:47 +0200 Hanno Böck wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:50:50 -0500 > > "Marty E. Plummer" wrote: > > > > > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to > > > an autotools based

Re: mcrypt status (Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs)

On 2018-08-04 16:29, Hanno Böck wrote: >> Do you have any evidence that mcrypt should not be used? > Well, PHP was as far as I'm aware its main user and PHP has declared > mcrypt support to be deprecated a while ago. In all fairness: Yes, PHP project has removed ext/mcrypt from core, but they

Re: mcrypt status (Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs)

Hi, On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 11:43:28 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Do you have any evidence that mcrypt should not be used? Well, PHP was as far as I'm aware its main user and PHP has declared mcrypt support to be deprecated a while ago. > Symmetric cryptography is quite conservative and it took

mcrypt status (Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs)

On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 07:59:47 +0200 Hanno Böck wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:50:50 -0500 > "Marty E. Plummer" wrote: > > > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to > > an autotools based build. Recently I've ran into app-crypt/mhash, > > which is in a semi-abandoned

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 07:59:47AM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:50:50 -0500 > "Marty E. Plummer" wrote: > > > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to > > an autotools based build. Recently I've ran into app-crypt/mhash, > > which is in a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:50:50 -0500 "Marty E. Plummer" wrote: > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to > an autotools based build. Recently I've ran into app-crypt/mhash, > which is in a semi-abandoned state (talking with the maintainer on > twitter atm), and I was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 21:50:50 -0500 "Marty E. Plummer" wrote: > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to an > autotools based build. Recently I've ran into app-crypt/mhash, which is > in a semi-abandoned state (talking with the maintainer on twitter atm), > and I was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On 2018-06-23 04:57, Marty E. Plummer wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 09:50:50PM -0500, Marty E. Plummer wrote: >> So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to an >> autotools based build. Recently I've ran into app-crypt/mhash, which is >> in a semi-abandoned state

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On 2018.06.23 09:55, Marty E. Plummer wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 10:15:06AM +0200, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > > On 23/06/2018 09:43, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > > > But how would it serve gentoo itself? Lots of packages in the > distro > > > have dead upstream but still work. > > > Why would you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 3:30 AM, Marty E. Plummer wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 09:22:00AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > W dniu pią, 22.06.2018 o godzinie 21∶50 -0500, użytkownik Marty E. > > Plummer napisał: > > > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to an > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 10:15:06AM +0200, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > On 23/06/2018 09:43, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > > But how would it serve gentoo itself? Lots of packages in the distro > > have dead upstream but still work. > > Why would you want to make gentoo an upstream area rather than moving a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On 23/06/2018 09:43, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > But how would it serve gentoo itself? Lots of packages in the distro > have dead upstream but still work. > Why would you want to make gentoo an upstream area rather than moving a > dead project itself, say, > to github and do the job there? +1 I like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On 23.06.2018 05:50, Marty E. Plummer wrote: > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to an > autotools based build. Recently I've ran into app-crypt/mhash, which is > in a semi-abandoned state (talking with the maintainer on twitter atm), > and I was thinking it may

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

W dniu sob, 23.06.2018 o godzinie 02∶30 -0500, użytkownik Marty E. Plummer napisał: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 09:22:00AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > W dniu pią, 22.06.2018 o godzinie 21∶50 -0500, użytkownik Marty E. > > Plummer napisał: > > > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 09:22:00AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu pią, 22.06.2018 o godzinie 21∶50 -0500, użytkownik Marty E. > Plummer napisał: > > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to an > > autotools based build. Recently I've ran into app-crypt/mhash, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

W dniu pią, 22.06.2018 o godzinie 21∶50 -0500, użytkownik Marty E. Plummer napisał: > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to an > autotools based build. Recently I've ran into app-crypt/mhash, which is > in a semi-abandoned state (talking with the maintainer on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 09:50:50PM -0500, Marty E. Plummer wrote: > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to an > autotools based build. Recently I've ran into app-crypt/mhash, which is > in a semi-abandoned state (talking with the maintainer on twitter atm), > and I