Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-08 Thread Sam James
Alexe Stefan writes: > I don't use chromium and I don't know what release cycle it has, but can't > those interested in running chromium use an > ebuild that tracks the git tree and updates after every change. > The maintenance burden would be minimal, and any patches could be applied > with

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-08 Thread Joonas Niilola
On 8.6.2023 13.08, Alexe Stefan wrote: > Can you build firefox/librewolf with gcc? > Afaik, you can only build it with clang/llvm. > Librewolf if the only reason I have clang and llvm on my system. > > joi, 8 iun. 2023, 10:31 Joonas Niilola > a scris: > > Luckily

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-08 Thread Alexe Stefan
Can you build firefox/librewolf with gcc? Afaik, you can only build it with clang/llvm. Librewolf if the only reason I have clang and llvm on my system. joi, 8 iun. 2023, 10:31 Joonas Niilola a scris: > Luckily few years ago > Mozilla invested in a pretty efficient CI system where they now test

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-08 Thread Joonas Niilola
On 8.6.2023 1.11, Alexe Stefan wrote: > > Also, with all this discussion, one can't help but wonder, is > firefox/librewolf also in such danger? > > Maintaining Firefox shares many of the bullet points mentioned above. We used to provide alpha/beta builds so issues would be caught early and

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Alexe Stefan
I don't use chromium and I don't know what release cycle it has, but can't those interested in running chromium use an ebuild that tracks the git tree and updates after every change. The maintenance burden would be minimal, and any patches could be applied with /etc/portage/patches. If something

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 3:25 PM Jeff Gazso wrote: > > That does sound painful. > > > - Across the 3 channels, you are looking at roughly 12 releases per month. > > That's a lot of churn. > > * Why build unstable stuff, why not build only stable releases and fix the > problems once? That's

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Sam James
Jeff Gazso writes: > That does sound painful. > >> - Across the 3 channels, you are looking at roughly 12 releases per month. >> That's a lot of churn. > > * Why build unstable stuff, why not build only stable releases and fix the > problems once? The idea is that you end up fixing stuff

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Jeff Gazso
That does sound painful. > - Across the 3 channels, you are looking at roughly 12 releases per month. > That's a lot of churn. * Why build unstable stuff, why not build only stable releases and fix the problems once? * Looking at chromium-browser-official and the GitHub mirror, it's unclear to

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Maciej Barć
I think Google does all this intentionally to piss off people trying to use the "free-er" version of Chrome... let's face it, "their" aim is to create a one-fits-all spyware named Google Chrome. Google does not want you to touch their mess. Google does not want you to even think about going a

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 9:09 AM Jeff Gazso wrote: > > I'm in the process of getting Gentoo dev status. I'm willing to consider > maintaining www-client/chromium. I have a high core count rack server that > should be able to handle the build process quite well. Can you give me a list > of common

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Ionen Wolkens
On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 04:12:22PM +0200, Toralf Förster wrote: > On 6/7/23 15:09, Jeff Gazso wrote: > > Can you give me a list > > of common pain points? > > My wish would be a -bin package. > Even with -j12 it takes here 5-6 hours compile time, which is a pain. We already "have" one but it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Sam James
Toralf Förster writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > On 6/7/23 15:09, Jeff Gazso wrote: >> Can you give me a list >> of common pain points? > > My wish would be a -bin package. > Even with -j12 it takes here 5-6 hours compile time, which is a pain. That's more work for the maintainer, not

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Toralf Förster
On 6/7/23 15:09, Jeff Gazso wrote: Can you give me a list of common pain points? My wish would be a -bin package. Even with -j12 it takes here 5-6 hours compile time, which is a pain. -- Toralf PGP 23217DA7 9B888F45 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Jeff Gazso
I'm in the process of getting Gentoo dev status. I'm willing to consider maintaining www-client/chromium. I have a high core count rack server that should be able to handle the build process quite well. Can you give me a list of common pain points? If that is a long conversation feel free to email

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Sam James
Alexe Stefan writes: > My finger slipped in my last mail. > How do you see how many people are using a package? Bug reports, mentions on forums, mentions on the mailing list, mentions on IRC, etc. Or, to put it another way: when you break it, enough people shout. Gentoo doesn't have telemetry

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Alexe Stefan
My finger slipped in my last mail. How do you see how many people are using a package? On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 10:58 AM Alexe Stefan wrote: > > > mie., 7 iun. 2023, 13:56 Sam James a scris: > >> >> This becomes more pressing as the vulnerabilities pile up: >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/907999. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Alexe Stefan
mie., 7 iun. 2023, 13:56 Sam James a scris: > > This becomes more pressing as the vulnerabilities pile up: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/907999. > > Nobody interested at all? We have more than enough people *using* it.. > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium needs a new maintainer

2023-06-07 Thread Sam James
Mike Gilbert writes: > Hi all, > > I'm throwing in the towel on www-client/chromium. It just isn't any > fun to maintain, and it's making me feel guilty when I don't give it > the attention it requires. I don't blame anyone for running out of stamina with chromium. It's a massive task and