[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
Tach Matti, 0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID) Matti Bickel schrieb: Once there was the idea of putting AT testing system specs somewhere, so arch devs could actually see what we're running. Is this still needed or is the number of ATs small enough to keep that in

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
Tach Jeroen, 0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID) Jeroen Roovers schrieb: I propose the `emerge --info` included in arch testers' comments on stabilisation bugs should rather be posted as attachments. The AT comments clog up the bugs and are usually not interesting at all to

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
Tach Jeroen, 0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID) Jeroen Roovers schrieb: Inlining emerge info in comments bloats the e-mail message to roughly 2.5 times the normal size. I could have spoken out to get AT comments banned altogether or to urge arches with AT teams to find a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:56:18 + (UTC) Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even back before it became the in thing, I was posting emerge --info as attachments, because it simply fit the bill -- bugzy /says/ to put long stuff as attachments. I never did quite understand why all that admittedly

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:51:56 +0200 Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:58:46 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with attachments is that processing the report takes longer - you have to go to the web to read the attachment to find out

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:52:30 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general it depends what you're doing. Personally I find inline emerge --info quicker to process, as I tend to do that by scrolling up and down a bug when trying to determine what triggers a bug. However that's for

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
Tach Jeroen, 0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID) Jeroen Roovers schrieb: One solution might be to open your own AT bug, make the stabilisation bug depend on it, and use the AT bug to have ATs post their `emerge info`. Then, when testing and stabilisation is finished for

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:40:23 +0200 Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:52:30 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general it depends what you're doing. Personally I find inline emerge --info quicker to process, as I tend to do that by scrolling up

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Thomas Cort
On 11 Aug 2006 00:00:00 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer) wrote: Tach Jeroen, 0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID) Jeroen Roovers schrieb: One solution might be to open your own AT bug, make the stabilisation bug depend on it, and use the AT bug to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Matti Bickel
Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ATs can inform you whether something works in the comment to an attachment, which, unlike the attachment, will end up in my mailbox. Ok, so i sample my emerge --info myconfig.txt and attach that. This is ok with me. However, i propose that this

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments to [STABLE] bugs

2006-08-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:25:11 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to decide to change how things are currently done, you need to show that it is better for a majority of the people affected. (N minus 1 of N arches) times (the number of arch devs minus the number of $ARCH

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments to [STABLE] bugs

2006-08-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 16:46 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: N -1 arch dev's comfort against N arch devs' annoyance[1]. big snip [1] Note that I am aware that not all other-arch devs might experience inline `emerge info` for other arches as annoying. I am on the alpha, amd64, and x86 arch teams.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments to [STABLE] bugs

2006-08-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:27:29 -0400 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am on the alpha, amd64, and x86 arch teams. I have found that even emails from architectures I'm not currently looking at tend to have a great significance. It seems to me that most of the failures are USE-flag

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments to [STABLE] bugs

2006-08-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 18:00 +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: And do you propose ATs still attach `emerge info` in this solution? No. It really should be inline. I'm sorry if you think that 5K seems like a lot of spam but having to open a browser just to look at emerge --info is a complete waste of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments to [STABLE] bugs

2006-08-11 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ex. gcc 4.1.1 works on x86 with the following: USE=gtk nls -bootstrap -build -doc -fortran -gcj -hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -mudflap -multislot -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla Looks OK to me. But hey, aren't arch devs and testers

[gentoo-dev] new svncache.eclass

2006-08-11 Thread Mark Stier
See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141806 Provides caching and release tag support for SVN. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: new svncache.eclass

2006-08-11 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Mark Stier wrote: See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141806 Provides caching and release tag support for SVN. sorry - I do not see the need for a new eclass here. Can you please instead modify the subversion eclass and add support for what you want to do? Best regards, Stefan --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new svncache.eclass

2006-08-11 Thread Mark Stier
sorry - I do not see the need for a new eclass here. Can you please instead modify the subversion eclass and add support for what you want to do? I could if I'd see any reason for that. Best regards, Mark -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new svncache.eclass

2006-08-11 Thread Alec Warner
Mark Stier wrote: sorry - I do not see the need for a new eclass here. Can you please instead modify the subversion eclass and add support for what you want to do? I could if I'd see any reason for that. Going the opposite way, you duplicate much of svn.eclass for one piece of

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-11 Thread Duncan
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:36:35 +0200: On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:56:18 + (UTC) Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [re. posting AT configs somewhere] I like the idea above, tho. For ATs especially, having some place

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should patches sit withing the portage tree ?

2006-08-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 23:04:19 +0200 Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'm interested in arguments whether patches should sit directly | within the portage tree or downloaded when needed. | | My feeling: downloading on demand is better. | | + makes the tree smaller, saves space, saves

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments to [STABLE] bugs

2006-08-11 Thread Ryan Hill
Chris Gianelloni wrote: No. It really should be inline. I'm sorry if you think that 5K seems like a lot of spam but having to open a browser just to look at emerge --info is a complete waste of time. *ding* it's also nice to have that information actually _in_ my mailbox and not of at the