Mike Frysinger wrote:
3. Should Gentoo even continue to support mips?
i see dropping keywords as a very last resort. getting a port *back* into
the
tree is a *tremendous* amount of work (i went through it and it was hell),
while keeping ~arch alive is a sliver of effort and
On Thursday 10 January 2008, Alin Năstac wrote:
Mike Frysinger wrote:
3. Should Gentoo even continue to support mips?
i see dropping keywords as a very last resort. getting a port *back*
into the tree is a *tremendous* amount of work (i went through it and it
was hell), while keeping
Petteri Räty a écrit :
I wouldn't say ssh is any more important than a dhcp client.
+1 from me.
With a quick glance at portage, I found at least those ssh implementations :
- openssh
- ssh
- ossh
- dropbear
- ... (probably a few more whose name I couldn't find)
This might even be worth
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:52:37 -0800
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I went and created a tiny script[1] to change mips KEYWORDS to ~mips
in the tree, and created a patch[2] against the current CVS tree.
Were the Council to choose this course of action, the work is mostly
done.
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:33:40 -0800
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is why I find it funny that people even bother to listen to
Ciaran, at all. All he cares about is his little pet projects/teams
and doesn't care if it increases workload for everybody else. I
mean, where would
On Thursday 10 January 2008, Rémi Cardona wrote:
With a quick glance at portage, I found at least those ssh implementations
: - openssh
none of those are suitable replacements for openssh.
- ssh
non-commercial only, not tested on all arches
- ossh
only tested on x86, no idea on
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:54:47 -0800
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 09:25 -0500, Caleb Tennis wrote:
I never even mentioned any specific arch in my original request, nor
did I call any developer out. So please, nobody needs to take this
personally.
Scientific Gentoo
Monday, 7. January 2008, Luca Barbato Ви написали:
Are we fine?
More or less, I'd say Ok with the stuff we have in the tree already. Need more
devs (who does not? :)) that's for sure. Right now we are ~10 people for 300
packages and there are another ~300+ in bugzilla. Which
Hi *:
Speaking for Gentoo/Alpha Arch Team (ferdy is the lead but I used to be
the status report guy):
Luca Barbato escribió:
Are we fine?
I would say: yes.
Reasons:
- General keywording is just fine.
- Security bugs are done in a reasonable period of time.
- We have a new and shiny
Gnome Herd (although my commit rate is kinda low these days)
Luca Barbato a écrit :
Are we fine?
Mostly, Gnome packages these days tend to be more stable, pushing the
complexity (and breakages) lower down into the stack (HAL, PolicyKit)
The rest of team is steadily adding Gnome 2.20.3
Programming Languages and (sub) Ada
Monday, 7. January 2008, Luca Barbato Ви написали:
Are we fine?
PL:
Ok as it is but could be better. It was concieved, among other things, to
consolidate resources and, possibly, do discussions of common things for some
of the languages we have support for
For sparc:
1. Are we fine?
Qualified yes. We are understaffed and at some point burn out is going
to catch up with us. At the moment we seem to be keeping up, largely
because of the superhuman efforts of Raúl Porcel (armin76). Also
because of his and agaffney's efforts, we are on track for
Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:41:55 +0200:
Luca Barbato kirjoitti:
Petteri Räty wrote:
[Java]
any plan/idea about icedtea? as a ppc user I'd love[]
Well having it open source doesn't mean automatically ppc support but
Josh Saddler [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:12:06 -0800:
We all know that ssh is good for sysadmins and netadmins and Gentoo
developers, etc. However, desktop users -- i.e., those not in those
categories, which is most everyone else, likely
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 14:37 -0800, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Implicit dependencies waste more time than pretty much anything else. Almost
all circular
dependency issues we currently have are due to implicit dependencies.
Maybe OT (an idea in a very early state):
For the implicit dependencies
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 14:06 +, Duncan wrote:
Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:41:55 +0200:
Luca Barbato kirjoitti:
Petteri Räty wrote:
[Java]
any plan/idea about icedtea? as a ppc user I'd love[]
Well having
On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:42:57 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote:
I already ranted about the fact that the dependency tree of our
ebuilds is vastly incomplete, as many lack dependency on zlib; trying
to get this fixed was impossible, as Donnie and other insisted that
as
William L. Thomson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on
Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:27:08 -0500:
I need to double check,
but pretty sure icedtea might still need sun-jdk to build. Even if that
is not the case, things like the plugin and other non-open aspects
aren't
Good day All,
Sorry for the thread hijack, but...
GWN: The GWN is currently in a permanent state of hiatus. I have no
intentions on spending another minute working on the GWN. While many,
many improvements have been made in the processes for getting the
automated data, getting articles has
n 1/7/08, Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is a list of interesting questions: Are we fine? What are we
going to do?
Please project leaders try to reply in short.
About the stuff I'm involved:
Are we fine?
GLEPS -
Thanks to nesyx I rewrote the glep index to use new tables and
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:08:46 +
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the mean time, I'll just say that if you don't drop the personal
attacks and apologise, I'll have no choice but to take it up with
devrel.
s|devrel|userrel|
Thanks,
JeR
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On Thursday 10 January 2008, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 14:37 -0800, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Implicit dependencies waste more time than pretty much anything else.
Almost all circular dependency issues we currently have are due to
implicit dependencies.
Maybe OT
Anant Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If nobody has a problem with making the GWN a GMN (Monthly
newsletter), then I am willing to volunteer to get this project back
on track.
Fine, as I do for some time now I submit weekly summaries of
activities on Planet Gentoo...so be assured I will
About portage:
Current status:
The portage project is mostly fine, though we've missed my original
plan to release the first 2.2 test versions last year, mostly because
of lack of time on my part. I hope we can fix that within the next two
or three months.
As Paul has already mentioned, the
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 07:08 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:33:40 -0800
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is why I find it funny that people even bother to listen to
Ciaran, at all. All he cares about is his little pet projects/teams
and doesn't care if
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 11:49:24AM -0800, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
I've not been doing the GWN for a few months now
Yes, we noticed that.
What about 2007.1? As release engineering lead that *should* be your pet
project.
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:49:24 -0800
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Feel free to bring up an issue with Developer Relations. They'll
likely throw it out because YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER. Also, you'll
notice that rather than call you names, which is really your forte, I
have instead
William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti:
No clue on ETA. I will take a peek/poke at it. I need to double check,
but pretty sure icedtea might still need sun-jdk to build. Even if that
is not the case, things like the plugin and other non-open aspects
aren't available yet in icedtea. So there is still
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Feel free to bring up an issue with Developer Relations. They'll
likely throw it out because YOU ARE NOT A DEVELOPER. Also, you'll
notice that rather than call you names, which is really
your forte, I
have instead
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 22:21 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti:
No clue on ETA. I will take a peek/poke at it. I need to double check,
but pretty sure icedtea might still need sun-jdk to build. Even if that
is not the case, things like the plugin and other
William L. Thomson Jr. kirjoitti:
gcj is not even official maintained by any Gentoo Devs atm. No where
near close to being added to tree. Much less in the same overlay as
openjdk. Not that it's in bad shape, but there is no syncing or
collaboration there. But seems moot, as IcedTea should not
On 20:53 Thu 10 Jan , Marius Mauch wrote:
- release test versions of portage-2.2, see how all the new stuff works
in practice and adjust things if necessary
Could you start kicking out masked/unkeyworded snapshots? Release early,
release often, and all that jazz.
Thanks,
Donnie
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On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 23:35 +0530, Anant Narayanan wrote:
If nobody has a problem with making the GWN a GMN (Monthly
newsletter), then I am willing to volunteer to get this project back
on track. Even if few people actually submit anything, I think there
is enough activity going on this
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 23:35 +0530, Anant Narayanan wrote:
If nobody has a problem with making the GWN a GMN (Monthly
newsletter), then I am willing to volunteer to get this project back
on track. Even if few people actually submit anything, I think there
is enough activity going on
Kumba wrote:
So how can this ship be righted? I did a quick scan of most of the
mails in the thread to get an idea of some of the existing opinions
(while trying to pass over the arguments), and here's what I found that
needed to be addressed.
a) thanks for the post.
b) thanks for helping
On 17:51 Thu 10 Jan , Ryan Hill wrote:
If you do, I can start doing package mask reports again. I stopped when
the GWN did since I didn't think it was very interesting to -dev readers
that see the individual announcements anyways.
Keep 'em coming to -dev-announce, at least. Without a
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 17:51 Thu 10 Jan , Ryan Hill wrote:
If you do, I can start doing package mask reports again. I stopped when
the GWN did since I didn't think it was very interesting to -dev readers
that see the individual announcements anyways.
Keep 'em coming to -dev-announce,
# Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] (10 Jan 2008)
# Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc
# Masked for removal (treecleaner)
# Bug #192741
sys-devel/distcc-config
--
fonts,by design, by neglect
gcc-porting, for a
Mike Frysinger wrote:
that certainly sounds reasonable to me. if the stable cant be maintained, let
the common workflow of developers transition it back to ~arch until someone
has the time to keep arch usable. changing profiles.desc accordingly should
be done ahead of time. perhaps a new
Hi,
On 11-Jan-08, at 4:14 AM, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Some of the scripts would need to be updated to work on a monthly-
basis
rather than weekly. Also, I still think that it would be good to
automate the scripts that run by putting them on infra somewhere and
having just the output mailed to
Ryan Hill wrote:
# Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] (10 Jan 2008)
# Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc
# Masked for removal (treecleaner)
# Bug #192741
sys-devel/distcc-config
Given that this is being removed, can you or someone in charge of distcc
packages please provide a
Josh Saddler kirjoitti:
Ryan Hill wrote:
# Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] (10 Jan 2008)
# Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc
# Masked for removal (treecleaner)
# Bug #192741
sys-devel/distcc-config
Given that this is being removed, can you or someone in charge of distcc
Petteri Räty wrote:
Josh Saddler kirjoitti:
Ryan Hill wrote:
# Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] (10 Jan 2008)
# Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc
# Masked for removal (treecleaner)
# Bug #192741
sys-devel/distcc-config
Given that this is being removed, can you or someone
Kumba wrote:
Mike Frysinger wrote:
that certainly sounds reasonable to me. if the stable cant be
maintained, let the common workflow of developers transition it back
to ~arch until someone has the time to keep arch usable. changing
profiles.desc accordingly should be done ahead of time.
Continuing on a side angle. I have a 300mhz Octane I'll ship to
someone in the US if they need more mips hardware. If you ask nice I
might even pay for the shipping. I haven't booted it in ages but it
used to work ;)
-Alec
On 1/10/08, Stuart Longland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kumba wrote:
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