[gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:14:28 -0400 Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: that's crap. fix the package or at least work around it: LDFLAGS=`echo ${LDFLAGS}` we shouldnt be forced to add random hacks throughout the tree because of one or two random broken packages Yes, I meant don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:14:28 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: that's crap.  fix the package or at least work around it: LDFLAGS=`echo ${LDFLAGS}` we shouldnt be forced to add random hacks throughout the tree because of one or two random broken

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:50:10PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:43:35 -0600 Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: The thing is, you can't right now. :D LDFLAGS don't stack, meaning you'd have to do something like --- targets/developer/make.defaults 26 Jul 2010

[gentoo-dev] Why (i.e. USE=openssl instead of USE=ssl)

2010-08-14 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
This is about my beloved USE=ssl. A bit long and ranty, but if you want the consensus, just read the last part. Today a new snapshot of gnash was uploaded where the old USE=ssl was renamed to USE=openssl. So yet another package where if you want ssl support you have to _personally_ audit what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why (i.e. USE=openssl instead of USE=ssl)

2010-08-14 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Peter Hjalmarsson schrieb: This is about my beloved USE=ssl. A bit long and ranty, but if you want the consensus, just read the last part. Today a new snapshot of gnash was uploaded where the old USE=ssl was renamed to USE=openssl. So yet another package where if you want ssl support you have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 02:40:40AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:14:28 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: that's crap.  fix the package or at least work around it: LDFLAGS=`echo ${LDFLAGS}` we shouldnt be forced to add

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why (i.e. USE=openssl instead of USE=ssl)

2010-08-14 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 08/14/2010 02:26 PM, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote: This is about my beloved USE=ssl. A bit long and ranty, but if you want the consensus, just read the last part. Today a new snapshot of gnash was uploaded where the old USE=ssl was renamed to USE=openssl. So yet another package where if

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Saturday 07 August 2010 00:21:39 Markos Chandras (hwoarang) wrote: hwoarang10/08/06 21:21:39 Modified: ChangeLog Added:mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild Log: Respect {C,LD}FLAGS when building shared library. Bug #308873 (Portage version: 2.2_rc67/cvs/Linux

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 03:35:34PM +0300, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Saturday 07 August 2010 00:21:39 Markos Chandras (hwoarang) wrote: hwoarang10/08/06 21:21:39 Modified: ChangeLog Added:mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild Log: Respect {C,LD}FLAGS when building

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Alex Alexander
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 03:50:53PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: - If you are not in cc of the gentoo bug nor in the herd alias, please cc yourself on the bug. - Please close the bugs, even the dupes (and apply previous point to the dupes too). - That way you'll be able to quickly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Saturday 14 August 2010 15:50:53 Markos Chandras wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 03:35:34PM +0300, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Saturday 07 August 2010 00:21:39 Markos Chandras (hwoarang) wrote: hwoarang10/08/06 21:21:39 Modified: ChangeLog Added:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 04:10:13PM +0300, Alex Alexander wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 03:50:53PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: - If you are not in cc of the gentoo bug nor in the herd alias, please cc yourself on the bug. - Please close the bugs, even the dupes (and apply previous

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 04:37:04PM +0300, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Saturday 14 August 2010 15:50:53 Markos Chandras wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 03:35:34PM +0300, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Saturday 07 August 2010 00:21:39 Markos Chandras (hwoarang) wrote: hwoarang10/08/06 21:21:39

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Saturday 14 August 2010 17:00:38 Markos Chandras wrote: [...] - There is absolutely no reference to any patch sent upstream and I have not seen anything on the upstream dev ml. Thats because I didn't. I've fixed more than 40 bug wrt LDFLAGS. Do you expect me to subscribe to 40

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 05:20:38PM +0300, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Saturday 14 August 2010 17:00:38 Markos Chandras wrote: [...] - There is absolutely no reference to any patch sent upstream and I have not seen anything on the upstream dev ml. Thats because I didn't. I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Richard Freeman
On 08/14/2010 10:29 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: So do I. Fixing your package and you don't even bother to send a *ready to go* patch upstream seems like a bit rude to me as well. Perhaps, we do have a complete different point of view in this one. Recent example is Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Alex Alexander
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 04:47:39PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 04:10:13PM +0300, Alex Alexander wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 03:50:53PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: - If you are not in cc of the gentoo bug nor in the herd alias, please cc yourself on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Thilo Bangert
Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org said: On 08/14/2010 10:29 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: So do I. Fixing your package and you don't even bother to send a *ready to go* patch upstream seems like a bit rude to me as well. Perhaps, we do have a complete different point of view in this one.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Thilo Bangert
So you want me to force everyone to update the package just to respect the LDFLAGS. yes. IIRC it has been stated on this list before, that a change which changes the resulting binary always needs to be done in a revbump. Why, since until recently, nobody gave a crap about this kind of QA

[gentoo-dev] Re: Why (i.e. USE=openssl instead of USE=ssl)

2010-08-14 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
lör 2010-08-14 klockan 13:45 +0200 skrev Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn: Peter Hjalmarsson schrieb: This is about my beloved USE=ssl. A bit long and ranty, but if you want the consensus, just read the last part. Today a new snapshot of gnash was uploaded where the old USE=ssl was

[gentoo-dev] Re: Why (i.e. USE=openssl instead of USE=ssl)

2010-08-14 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
lör 2010-08-14 klockan 15:14 +0300 skrev Samuli Suominen: [1] Last time I did a bugreport about this, here is the answer: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310681 Long story short: If package has SSL support, and use ssl is ignored or not present in a ebuild. it's plain broken.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 07:16:26PM +0300, Alex Alexander wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 04:47:39PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 04:10:13PM +0300, Alex Alexander wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 03:50:53PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: - If you are not in cc of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 06:26:36PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote: So you want me to force everyone to update the package just to respect the LDFLAGS. yes. IIRC it has been stated on this list before, that a change which changes the resulting binary always needs to be done in a revbump.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Alex Alexander
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 08:00:40PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 07:16:26PM +0300, Alex Alexander wrote: Does respecting LDFLAGS change the installed files in any way? yes. Will users benefit from your change if you don't revbump? No. I think that chain of logic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 08:21:15PM +0300, Alex Alexander wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 08:00:40PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 07:16:26PM +0300, Alex Alexander wrote: Does respecting LDFLAGS change the installed files in any way? yes. Will users benefit from your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 06:26:12PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote: So you want me to force everyone to update the package just to respect the LDFLAGS. yes. IIRC it has been stated on this list before, that a change which changes the resulting binary always needs to be done in a revbump. If

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Alex Alexander
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 08:34:13PM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: said, commit an actual patch, assigned to QA and if the rest of the members agree on that I am willing to change my policy. Now you're just being stubborn. I'm pretty sure your mentor told you any change to installed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: ~$ cat development/gentoo-cvs/gentoo-x86/profiles/default/linux/amd64/dev/make.defaults i'm pretty sure all the /dev subdirs are dead now and unified in targets/developer in fact, i dont see anyone referencing that subdir, so i guess we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: ~$ cat development/gentoo-cvs/gentoo-x86/profiles/default/linux/amd64/dev/make.defaults i'm pretty sure all the /dev subdirs are dead now and unified in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-14 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 08/14/2010 08:58 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: ~$ cat development/gentoo-cvs/gentoo-x86/profiles/default/linux/amd64/dev/make.defaults i'm pretty sure all the /dev subdirs are dead now and unified in targets/developer in fact, i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 08/14/2010 08:58 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: ~$ cat development/gentoo-cvs/gentoo-x86/profiles/default/linux/amd64/dev/make.defaults i'm pretty sure all the /dev subdirs are dead

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Duncan
Markos Chandras posted on Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:00:40 +0300 as excerpted: Cause I don't like users to compile the same damn package over and over. -r1 for docs on ${PF}, -r2 for CFLGAS, -r3 for LDFLAGS, -r4 for ... Is that a good reason or not? It is not like I introduce huge patches with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Richard Freeman
On 08/14/2010 02:35 PM, Duncan wrote: User perspective here... For LDFLAGS, given the new --as-needed default, I'd prefer the rev-bump. Yes, it requires a rebuild, but the rebuilds will occur as the bugs are fixed so it's a few at a time for people who keep reasonably updated (every month or

Re: [gentoo-dev] keepdir /var/run/package/?

2010-08-14 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Mike Frysinger wrote: Why not checkpath -d -o fowner:fgroup -m 0755 /var/run/foo? i thought there was something. that was the whole point of Bug 192682. if we dont get openrc out the door, i'll have to add to baselayout-1. I thought you already had backported

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: ~$ cat development/gentoo-cvs/gentoo-x86/profiles/default/linux/amd64/dev/make.defaults i'm pretty sure all the /dev subdirs are dead now and unified in

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:35:56 +0200 Harald van Dijk true...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 06:26:12PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote: So you want me to force everyone to update the package just to respect the LDFLAGS. yes. IIRC it has been stated on this list before, that a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:00:38 +0300 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: you don't need to subscribe, there's usually an AUTHORS file with emails you can use... As I said, I thought that maintainers was responsible to do it since they follow all the bug progress after all. So

Re: [gentoo-dev] keepdir /var/run/package/?

2010-08-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Mike Frysinger wrote: Why not checkpath -d -o fowner:fgroup -m 0755 /var/run/foo? i thought there was something.  that was the whole point of Bug 192682.  if we dont get openrc out the door, i'll have to add to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 02:46:21PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:00:38 +0300 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: you don't need to subscribe, there's usually an AUTHORS file with emails you can use... As I said, I thought that maintainers was responsible to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-libs/mlt: ChangeLog mlt-0.5.4-r1.ebuild

2010-08-14 Thread Dale
Richard Freeman wrote: On 08/14/2010 02:35 PM, Duncan wrote: User perspective here... For LDFLAGS, given the new --as-needed default, I'd prefer the rev-bump. Yes, it requires a rebuild, but the rebuilds will occur as the bugs are fixed so it's a few at a time for people who keep reasonably

[gentoo-dev] glibc-2.12 in ~arch

2010-08-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
glibc-2.12 seems to work for me on amd64/ia64/ppc/ppc64/x86 and no one has reported significant problems with it, so added to ~arch for the non-ports arches -mike