[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Implicit system dependencies

2011-08-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno mar, 23/08/2011 alle 23.52 -0700, Tim Harder ha scritto: > I thought xz-utils can be assumed as well since it was added to the > system set almost six months ago [1]. It has really very little to do with being in the system set or not. And the answer is no, you cannot assume that... --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Implicit system dependencies

2011-08-24 Thread Tim Harder
On 2011-08-24 Wed 00:21, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno mar, 23/08/2011 alle 23.52 -0700, Tim Harder ha scritto: > > I thought xz-utils can be assumed as well since it was added to the > > system set almost six months ago [1]. > It has really very little to do with being in the system set o

[gentoo-dev] Re: Implicit system dependencies

2011-08-24 Thread Michael
Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno mar, 23/08/2011 alle 05.21 +1000, Michael ha scritto: >> >> Any thoughts to as how far I should go with filing bugs regarding >> this >> issue? > > Please if you're going to file bugs about this, do so only on a system > built with _forced_ --as-needed, othe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Implicit system dependencies

2011-08-24 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:31:29AM -0700, Tim Harder wrote: > On 2011-08-24 Wed 00:21, Diego Elio Petten?? wrote: > > Il giorno mar, 23/08/2011 alle 23.52 -0700, Tim Harder ha scritto: > > > I thought xz-utils can be assumed as well since it was added to the > > > system set almost six months ago [

[gentoo-dev] Re: Implicit system dependencies

2011-08-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno mer, 24/08/2011 alle 19.49 +1000, Michael ha scritto: > > Is /this/ considered to be a bug? Do I just write a patch to stop > linking > against libs that aren't needed? Yes this is a bug in gpgme, it has to RDEPEND on libassuan rather than just DEPEND on it, since it reports it to --l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Thomas Kahle
Hi, On 18:16 Tue 23 Aug 2011, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > there is one important aspect of your program that really needs to be > documented (and comments in the code are not enough): > > What data exactly is the client sending to the server?! > > What you need is basically an easy-to-find file /

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 08/24/11 12:31, Thomas Kahle wrote: > Hi, > > On 18:16 Tue 23 Aug 2011, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> there is one important aspect of your program that really needs to be >> documented (and comments in the code are not enough): >> >> What data exactly is the client sending to the server?! >> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch 24 August 2011, 12:48:35 schrieb Patrick Lauer: > > If you sneakily add something to cron.daily by default you can get > pretty nice coverage. But I guess anyone trying that in Gentooland will > meet some rather unpleasant resistance :) > Of course, we could place it in some blatantl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > If you sneakily add something to cron.daily by default you can get > pretty nice coverage. But I guess anyone trying that in Gentooland will > meet some rather unpleasant resistance :) Well, we could always broadcast the news widely (lists,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 12:48 Wed 24 Aug 2011, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 08/24/11 12:31, Thomas Kahle wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 18:16 Tue 23 Aug 2011, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >> there is one important aspect of your program that really needs to be > >> documented (and comments in the code are not enough): > >> > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 13:03 Wed 24 Aug 2011, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Mittwoch 24 August 2011, 12:48:35 schrieb Patrick Lauer: > > > > If you sneakily add something to cron.daily by default you can get > > pretty nice coverage. But I guess anyone trying that in Gentooland will > > meet some rather unpleasant r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Mario Fetka
i am a user and i am ok with opt-out if the std data that is transferd is compleatly anonymized so no sensitive data. and if the user wants to register his/her machine pkg's more data is trasnfered thx Mario 2011/8/24 Thomas Kahle : > On 13:03 Wed 24 Aug 2011, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> Am Mit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Thomas Kahle wrote: > Sorry, but NO.  If you want you can make a big noise message that asks > users to install the cron-job but opt-out is not an option here. Well, that's up to the Council/Trustees ultimately, but opinions (and better still reasoning) are welcom

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:07:54 -0400 as excerpted: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Patrick Lauer > wrote: >> If you sneakily add something to cron.daily by default you can get >> pretty nice coverage. But I guess anyone trying that in Gentooland will >> meet some rather unple

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Thomas Kahle wrote: >> Sorry, but NO.  If you want you can make a big noise message that asks >> users to install the cron-job but opt-out is not an option here. > > Well, that's up to the Council/Trustees ult