[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2012-09-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Dear all, since I dont have the time anymore, I've re-assigned the following packages to maintainer-needed. Please go get them if interested. app-admin/collectd (*) app-arch/arj app-editors/dhex dev-libs/libcaldav dev-libs/libofx dev-util/nvidia-cuda-npp kde-misc/kcollectd media-gfx/argyllcms

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item 1: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-09-12 Thread Gregory M. Turner
On 9/10/2012 10:39 PM, Duncan wrote: Gregory M. Turner posted on Mon, 10 Sep 2012 20:29:53 -0700 as excerpted: However, IIRC, /etc/make.conf is just ignored by portage if /etc/portage/make.conf is present, so symlinking, or even better, if possible, hardlinking those files would probably do

Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5?

2012-09-12 Thread Gregory M. Turner
On 9/11/2012 9:54 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/09/12 12:43 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 09/11/2012 09:36 AM, viv...@gmail.com wrote: Dunno where to place this request, but if we go for something like EJOBS could we also make it phase specific?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item 1: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-09-12 Thread Zac Medico
On 09/12/2012 02:16 AM, Gregory M. Turner wrote: In all seriousness, if both of them are sourced, then could one get away with something like this? /etc/make.conf: source /etc/portage/make.conf /etc/portage/make.conf: if [[ __GENTOO_MAKE_CONF_ONCE == gotit ]] ; then

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: netplugd and ifplugd support in OpenRc

2012-09-12 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/09/12 06:23 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:01 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: I can agree that a server would probably want a static configuration, but all work stations do not use gnome, kde, etc.

Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5?

2012-09-12 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/09/12 05:55 AM, Gregory M. Turner wrote: Note that, effectively, we have this already, and it's called portage. But one could certainly make a case for modularizing it better, since, in truth, we are talking about a very common, very

Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5?

2012-09-12 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 11/09/2012 18:43, Zac Medico ha scritto: On 09/11/2012 09:36 AM, viv...@gmail.com wrote: Dunno where to place this request, but if we go for something like EJOBS could we also make it phase specific? So compile, install and test could have a different number of jobs running. Possibly three

Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5?

2012-09-12 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 08:58 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: So essentially what you're saying here is that it might be worthwhile to look into parallelism as a whole and possibly come up with a solution that combines 'emerge --jobs' and build-system parallelism together to maximum benefit?

Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5?

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 08:58 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: So essentially what you're saying here is that it might be worthwhile to look into parallelism as a whole and possibly come up with a solution that combines

Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5?

2012-09-12 Thread Zac Medico
On 09/12/2012 09:33 AM, Hans de Graaff wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 08:58 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: So essentially what you're saying here is that it might be worthwhile to look into parallelism as a whole and possibly come up with a solution that combines 'emerge --jobs' and

Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5?

2012-09-12 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/09/12 12:58 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 09/12/2012 09:33 AM, Hans de Graaff wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 08:58 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: So essentially what you're saying here is that it might be worthwhile to look into parallelism as

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: netplugd and ifplugd support in OpenRc

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 12-09-2012 a las 08:44 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/09/12 06:23 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:01 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: I can agree that a server would probably want a static

[gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello Currently, package maintainers are CCed to security bugs when their are needed. The problem is that, once maintainers add a fixed version and tell security team they are ok to get it stabilized, maintainers are kept CCed until bug is closed by security team. This usually means getting a lot

Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:59:01 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello Currently, package maintainers are CCed to security bugs when their are needed. The problem is that, once maintainers add a fixed version and tell security team they are ok to get it stabilized, maintainers are

[gentoo-dev] Re: About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 2012-09-13 03:59, Pacho Ramos wrote: Hello Currently, package maintainers are CCed to security bugs when their are needed. The problem is that, once maintainers add a fixed version and tell security team they are ok to get it stabilized, maintainers are kept CCed until bug is closed by

Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: So you would want to be re-CC'd when it is time to remove the vulnerable versions, I guess. Isn't this done shortly after keywording is complete? I think the concern is more about issuing GLSAs/etc, which apparently can

Re: [gentoo-dev] EJOBS variable for EAPI 5?

2012-09-12 Thread Gregory M. Turner
On 9/12/2012 5:58 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/09/12 05:55 AM, Gregory M. Turner wrote: Note that, effectively, we have this already, and it's called portage. But one could certainly make a case for modularizing it better, since, in truth,

Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 12-09-2012 a las 20:29 +0200, Jeroen Roovers escribió: On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:59:01 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello Currently, package maintainers are CCed to security bugs when their are needed. The problem is that, once maintainers add a fixed version and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 04:30 +1000, Michael Palimaka escribió: On 2012-09-13 03:59, Pacho Ramos wrote: Hello Currently, package maintainers are CCed to security bugs when their are needed. The problem is that, once maintainers add a fixed version and tell security team they are ok to

Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 12-09-2012 a las 14:42 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: So you would want to be re-CC'd when it is time to remove the vulnerable versions, I guess. Isn't this done shortly after keywording is complete? I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] new vala.eclass

2012-09-12 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 22:09 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: Revised proposal with suggestions from Nirbheek. VALA_API_VERSION has been split into max and min to make it easier for packages to depend on a range of vala slots. # Copyright 1999-2012 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the

[gentoo-dev] EAPI5: require ebuilds/eclasses to not use any vars/funcs prefixed with __

2012-09-12 Thread Brian Harring
Hola folks. Currently portage exposes a fair amount of it's internal implementation via vars/funcs into the ebulid env; this frankly makes it easier for ebuilds/eclasses to localize themselves to portage (rather than PMS), leading to breakage. Thus a proposal for EAPI5 has been made, banning

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Sean Amoss
On 09/12/2012 02:54 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 04:30 +1000, Michael Palimaka escribió: On 2012-09-13 03:59, Pacho Ramos wrote: Hello Currently, package maintainers are CCed to security bugs when their are needed. The problem is that, once maintainers add a fixed version

Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:53:20 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: You can un-CC yourself. I don't see why security@ should be doing the legwork. It shouldn't be so hard to do, they can do it just when they CC arches, instead of relaying some random team member to do it himself once a

Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Ben de Groot
On 13 September 2012 09:43, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:53:20 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: You can un-CC yourself. I don't see why security@ should be doing the legwork. It shouldn't be so hard to do, they can do it just when they CC arches,

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI5: require ebuilds/eclasses to not use any vars/funcs prefixed with __

2012-09-12 Thread Ben de Groot
On 13 September 2012 04:36, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: Hola folks. Currently portage exposes a fair amount of it's internal implementation via vars/funcs into the ebulid env; this frankly makes it easier for ebuilds/eclasses to localize themselves to portage (rather than PMS),

[gentoo-dev] Let's populate IUSE_IMPLICIT in the base profile

2012-09-12 Thread Zac Medico
Hi, The council has approved [1] Profile IUSE injection [2] for inclusion in EAPI 5, and in latest Portage we have experimental EAPI 5_pre2 [3] which implements all of the approved features. So, now would be a good time to start populating IUSE_IMPLICIT with whatever values may be appropriate.

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI5: require ebuilds/eclasses to not use any vars/funcs prefixed with __

2012-09-12 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012, Brian Harring wrote: Note there is a few vars we need to exempt; that list is currently SANDBOX_* and FEATURES. FEATURES is fine to exempt from this rule. For SANDBOX_*, while that's a PM internal, that's a bit of a grey zone; regardless, we can actually address that

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI5: require ebuilds/eclasses to not use any vars/funcs prefixed with __

2012-09-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Brian Harring wrote: Currently, there is a minor amount of ebuild/eclass usage of things named __*; ~90% of it is 'import once' eclass code like the following: if [[ ${___ECLASS_ONCE_LIBTOOL} != recur -_+^+_- spank ]] ; then ___ECLASS_ONCE_LIBTOOL=recur

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI5: require ebuilds/eclasses to not use any vars/funcs prefixed with __

2012-09-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Thu, 13 Sep 2012, Brian Harring wrote: Note there is a few vars we need to exempt; that list is currently SANDBOX_* and FEATURES. FEATURES is fine to exempt from this rule. For SANDBOX_*, while that's a PM internal, that's a bit of a

[gentoo-portage-dev] Re: app-shells/gentoo-bashcomp needs some portage expert lovin'

2012-09-12 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:33:51 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Could a number of folks familiar with both portage AND bash completion help out the shell-tools herd (no specific maintainer specified in metadata) with app-shell/gentoo-bashcomp bugs? It seems to have accumulated

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] How to prevent dispatch-conf from reverting valid changes

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 02-08-2012 a las 12:34 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: On 08/01/2012 11:36 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 01-08-2012 a las 16:14 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: On 08/01/2012 03:19 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: On every openrc update I get dispatch-conf wanting to revert all my changes in