Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2006-12-22 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 12:10:44AM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2006 23:43, Alec Warner wrote: > > Say I approve only GPL-3 packages (cause' I hate patents, and I dislike > > having a working system too!).  This would encompass anything strictly > > GPL-3 and also

[gentoo-dev] Re: LAST RITES - rt2x00 beta 3

2006-12-22 Thread Duncan
Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:08:45 -0600: > Roy Marples wrote: >> Hi list. >> >> Not often I issue a last rites, but here we go! >> rt2x00-beta3 driver is going to be masked over the next few days and >> then removed from po

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USB disks - idea/question

2006-12-22 Thread Charlie Shepherd
Guys, Please take this discussion to gentoo-user or some such place - it doesn't belong on this list. -- -Charlie -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USB disks - idea/question

2006-12-22 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Saturday, 23 December 2006 10:08, Sven Köhler wrote: > Raymond Lewis Rebbeck schrieb: > > On Saturday, 23 December 2006 2:40, Sven Köhler wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> so as you plugin a USB-disk, the kernel will recognize it, and it will > >> be called sda, sdb, sdc or whatever ... > >> > >> I don'

[gentoo-dev] Re: GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2006-12-22 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > Comments, ideas, proposals? currently we have all those under GPL-2. Now when GPL-3 becomes available people have the option to use GPL-3. However that will still allow people to use GPL-2 if their patents, etc need it. SO it is not much difference. The big diff

[gentoo-dev] Re: USB disks - idea/question

2006-12-22 Thread Sven Köhler
Raymond Lewis Rebbeck schrieb: > On Saturday, 23 December 2006 2:40, Sven Köhler wrote: >> Hi, >> >> so as you plugin a USB-disk, the kernel will recognize it, and it will >> be called sda, sdb, sdc or whatever ... >> >> I don't like that - why doesn't it get some more usefull device-name? >> Some

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2006-12-22 Thread Yuri Vasilevski
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:31:04 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2006 22:53, Yuri Vasilevski wrote: > > While for the ones that support v2 or later (this is actually a > > special case of multiple licensing) we do: > > > > LICENSE="GPL-2 GPL-3" > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2006-12-22 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 22 December 2006 23:43, Alec Warner wrote: > Say I approve only GPL-3 packages (cause' I hate patents, and I dislike > having a working system too!).  This would encompass anything strictly > GPL-3 and also anything GPL-2+ (which would then be under 3 at my option > in this case). Not rea

Re: [gentoo-dev] LAST RITES - rt2x00 beta 3

2006-12-22 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Roy Marples wrote: Hi list. Not often I issue a last rites, but here we go! rt2x00-beta3 driver is going to be masked over the next few days and then removed from portage around the end of January. This is at the request of upstream as they're mainly bored of fixing compile and useability error

[gentoo-dev] LAST RITES - rt2x00 beta 3

2006-12-22 Thread Roy Marples
Hi list. Not often I issue a last rites, but here we go! rt2x00-beta3 driver is going to be masked over the next few days and then removed from portage around the end of January. This is at the request of upstream as they're mainly bored of fixing compile and useability errors in beta3 with new k

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2006-12-22 Thread Alec Warner
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Friday 22 December 2006 22:53, Yuri Vasilevski wrote: While for the ones that support v2 or later (this is actually a special case of multiple licensing) we do: LICENSE="GPL-2 GPL-3" when it becomes available? There is one problem at least for this: to apply

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2006-12-22 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 22 December 2006 22:53, Yuri Vasilevski wrote: > While for the ones that support v2 or later (this is actually a special > case of multiple licensing) we do: > > LICENSE="GPL-2 GPL-3" > > when it becomes available? There is one problem at least for this: to apply this method you'd have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2006-12-22 Thread Yuri Vasilevski
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:06:32 -0500 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yuri Vasilevski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:56:54 +0100 > > "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> At the moment we represent the software we consider under GNU > >> General Pub

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2006-12-22 Thread Alec Warner
Yuri Vasilevski wrote: Hi, On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:56:54 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At the moment we represent the software we consider under GNU General Public License, version 2 of the license, but we cannot be sure it's alright to license it to "any later ve

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2006-12-22 Thread Yuri Vasilevski
Hi, On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:56:54 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At the moment we represent the software we consider under GNU General > Public License, version 2 of the license, but we cannot be sure it's > alright to license it to "any later version". Linux kernel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200

2006-12-22 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Saturday, 23 December 2006 7:44, Rémi Cardona wrote: > On second thoughts, I'll raise a small objection to the removal. Latest > gentoo version is 1.2.0 while the kernel (gentoo-sources-2.6.19-r2) says > to contain 1.1.4. I know that difference isn't exactly huge, but still, > it's a step backwa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200

2006-12-22 Thread Rémi Cardona
Christian Heim a écrit : Heya, net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200 are both kernel drivers built as an external package through portage. The codebase currently in portage is the same that is present in any up-to-date kernel tarball (2.6.x). For this reason I am suggesting, everyone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites for net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200

2006-12-22 Thread Rémi Cardona
Christian Heim a écrit : Furthermore, many users have a much easier time using the externally-built module than the in-kernel drivers. I, personally, found it to "just work" whereas the kernel drivers would not work without lots of troubleshooting. I haven't been in this situation, and I've ne

[gentoo-dev] GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2006-12-22 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
At the moment we represent the software we consider under GNU General Public License, version 2 of the license, but we cannot be sure it's alright to license it to "any later version". Linux kernel for instance is licensed _only_ under GPLv2, but not any later version. What I propose is to copy

[gentoo-dev] Marking GPL-incompatible linkage?

2006-12-22 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Trying to cleanup the faad/faac situation, I ended up thinking about a little situation with Amarok. Right now the aac useflag enable support for MP4v2 tags writing through libmp4v2; the problem is that the library is licensed under MPL, while Amarok is licensed under GPL, and they are likely n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200

2006-12-22 Thread Christian Heim
On Friday, 22. December. 2006 16:24, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 00:42 +0100, Christian Heim wrote: > > net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200 are both kernel drivers > > built as an external package through portage. The codebase currently in > > portage is the same that

Re: [gentoo-dev] USB disks - idea/question

2006-12-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Sven Köhler kirjoitti: > Hi, > > so as you plugin a USB-disk, the kernel will recognize it, and it will > be called sda, sdb, sdc or whatever ... > > I don't like that - why doesn't it get some more usefull device-name? > Some device name, that > a) indicates, that it is usb (for example put them

Re: [gentoo-dev] USB disks - idea/question

2006-12-22 Thread Jakub Moc
Sven Köhler napsal(a): > Hi, > > so as you plugin a USB-disk, the kernel will recognize it, and it will > be called sda, sdb, sdc or whatever ... > > I don't like that - why doesn't it get some more usefull device-name? Completely off-topic here. Write yourself an UDEV rule, such as: BUS=="usb"

Re: [gentoo-dev] USB disks - idea/question

2006-12-22 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Saturday, 23 December 2006 2:40, Sven Köhler wrote: > Hi, > > so as you plugin a USB-disk, the kernel will recognize it, and it will > be called sda, sdb, sdc or whatever ... > > I don't like that - why doesn't it get some more usefull device-name? > Some device name, that > a) indicates, that i

[gentoo-dev] USB disks - idea/question

2006-12-22 Thread Sven Köhler
Hi, so as you plugin a USB-disk, the kernel will recognize it, and it will be called sda, sdb, sdc or whatever ... I don't like that - why doesn't it get some more usefull device-name? Some device name, that a) indicates, that it is usb (for example put them to /dev/usb) and b) uses a numering no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200

2006-12-22 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 00:42 +0100, Christian Heim wrote: > net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200 are both kernel drivers built > as > an external package through portage. The codebase currently in portage is the > same that is present in any up-to-date kernel tarball (2.6.x). Just curio

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites for net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200

2006-12-22 Thread Christian Heim
On Friday, 22. December. 2006 01:36, you wrote: > Hi Christian. > > * On Dec 21 0:42, Christian Heim (gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org) wrote: > > net-wireless/ipw2100 and net-wireless/ipw2200 are both kernel drivers > > built as an external package through portage. The codebase currently in > > portag