Tiziano Müller wrote:
> As you can see currently, most time is needed to implemente the features
> in portage. It therefore doesn't make sense to make the EAPI process
> even faster. On the other hand, I think it would make sense to have a
> separate group developing new EAPIs instead of the counci
Am Samstag, den 22.08.2009, 01:54 +0100 schrieb AllenJB:
> From what I've seen here, at least part of the problem here stems from
> the fact that this feature won't be considered until EAPI-4, and that
> means it might be a long way off yet. This, in my mind, raises the
> question of whether the cu
Ryan Hill wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:29:12 -0700
> Chip Parker wrote:
>
>
>> If you were building a house, and the blueprints had been signed off
>> on calling for 1 meter high doors, but the builder had built in 2
>> meter high doors, would you then go back to the builder and require
>> h
On 08/22/2009 07:06 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Done. Seems to work OK. Though there's no info about the scanning of
packages and my profile page only lists hardware.
I cannot find any new entries in the database.
Have you been using
--server=http://smolt.hartw
Jeremy Olexa wrote:
>> - Would zero-install packages be more interesting than
>>almost-zero ones or the other way around?
>
> I don't really understand this question. Does "zero-install" mean that
> they are not installed at all? This isn't really useful, because the
> ommition of a package f
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Done. Seems to work OK. Though there's no info about the scanning of
> packages and my profile page only lists hardware.
I cannot find any new entries in the database.
Have you been using
--server=http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/
on submission? I mentioned that i
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Uhm, I just discovered that there are conflicts with portage too. That
> is not good. After I added pure-funtoo, it messed up my emerge -u world
> (stuff like wanting to upgrade to sys-apps/baselayout-2.1.5).
Hopefully fixed
http://git.goodpoint.de/?p=pure-funtoo.git;a
Robert Buchholz posted on Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:44:51 +0200 as excerpted:
> I wonder what the value of the PMS specification is if every time an
> inconsistency comes up the argument is raised that it should document
> portage behavior. EAPI 1, 2 and 3 have been agreed by the council and
> PMS is in
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> There seems to be a bit of (minimal) duplication between pure-funtoo and
> sunrise:
>
> app-office/thinking-rock-bin
> dev-tex/mimetex
> x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau
>
> And since sunrise is the most popular overlay, it might be a good idea
> to also omit packag
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 05:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 05:39 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Commits are done automatically, triggering and pushing is
manual at the moment.
By now a cron-based setup is running syncing the pure-funtoo ove
On 08/22/2009 04:07 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
What version/edition of Smolt are you trying to commit with?
The only available one: app-admin/smolt-1.2
Smolt 1.2 does not have the Gentoo-specific client code you need, yet.
Please try again with
app-admin/gento
On 08/22/2009 05:59 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/22/2009 05:39 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Commits are done automatically, triggering and pushing is
manual at the moment.
By now a cron-based setup is running syncing the pure-funtoo overlay
(and therefore also i
On 08/22/2009 05:39 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Commits are done automatically, triggering and pushing is
manual at the moment.
By now a cron-based setup is running syncing the pure-funtoo overlay
(and therefore also its atom and rss feeds) every 24 hours.
There see
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:56:41 +0100
David Leverton wrote:
> Does anyone have any opinions on which of the four options (#1
> make die respect nonfatal, #2 make die always die, #3 add a new
> die variant that respects nonfatal, #4 make regular die respect
> nonfatal, and add a new variant that does
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Hello!
Arrivals
The third peport table on installed packages "most-unmasked" has just
arrived:
http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/static/stats/gentoo.html#installed_packages_most_unmasked
Questions
=
Before adding the forth "least-installed" table, I'd
Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> Commits are done automatically, triggering and pushing is
> manual at the moment.
By now a cron-based setup is running syncing the pure-funtoo overlay
(and therefore also its atom and rss feeds) every 24 hours.
Sebastian
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:29:12 -0700
Chip Parker wrote:
> If you were building a house, and the blueprints had been signed off
> on calling for 1 meter high doors, but the builder had built in 2
> meter high doors, would you then go back to the builder and require
> him to do something that makes t
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> What version/edition of Smolt are you trying to commit with?
>
> The only available one: app-admin/smolt-1.2
Smolt 1.2 does not have the Gentoo-specific client code you need, yet.
Please try again with
app-admin/gentoo-smolt-
from my "sping" overlay.
Sebas
Robert Buchholz wrote:
> On Saturday 22 August 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
>> It's true, but being able to modularize profile may outweights the
>> need to be strict-with-the-book here - it's a matter of usefulness. I
>> think it should be decided by those who actually do the work in
>> profile,
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:29:12 -0700
Chip Parker wrote:
> If this feature, which HAD been documented (in bugzilla and
> commitlogs) prior to the first RFC for PMS
As I've already explained to you on bugzilla, this is untrue. You're
confusing user configuration with the tree. PMS has nothing to say
2009/8/21 Robert Buchholz :
> On Saturday 22 August 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
>> It's true, but being able to modularize profile may outweights the
>> need to be strict-with-the-book here - it's a matter of usefulness. I
>> think it should be decided by those who actually do the work in
>> prof
On Saturday 22 August 2009, Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> It's true, but being able to modularize profile may outweights the
> need to be strict-with-the-book here - it's a matter of usefulness. I
> think it should be decided by those who actually do the work in
> profile, whether it's worthy to push t
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:39:41 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > > There was a change regardless of what you think.
> >
> > No, you were misreading the original wording
>
> The original wording didn't disallow affecting die(). Not disallowed
> things are always allowed.
Er, no.
On 08/22/2009 02:11 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Is there something special required to use smolt? I get to a page that
tells me this after I submit my profile:
Error: Critical: New versions of smolt use a public UUID. Yours is:
pub_----
2009-08-22 01:28:17 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:15:18 +0200
> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > > There was no change to the definition of nonfatal.
> >
> > There was a change regardless of what you think.
>
> No, you were misreading the original wording
T
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:15:18 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > There was no change to the definition of nonfatal.
>
> There was a change regardless of what you think.
No, you were misreading the original wording (which I quite happy
admit was wide open for misreading), hence
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:20:36 +0200
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> > > That being said I don't like refraining from "return value
> > > approach" towards "exception handling approach"
> >
> > nonfatal's not an exception handling approach. Think of it as a
> > utility like 'nice', 'ionice', 'xargs', 'en
On Saturday 22 of August 2009 01:06:30 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:01:48 +0200
>
> Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> > That being said I don't like refraining from "return value approach"
> > towards "exception handling approach"
>
> nonfatal's not an exception handling approach. Thi
2009-08-22 00:51:14 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:40:04 +0200
> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > I would like to also notice that (not yet approved by Council)
> > definition of nonfatal() in PMS was recently drastically changed
> > without proper discussion wi
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Is there something special required to use smolt? I get to a page that
> tells me this after I submit my profile:
>
> Error: Critical: New versions of smolt use a public UUID. Yours is:
> pub_----
What version/edition of Smolt are you tr
On Friday 21 of August 2009 23:46:38 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:42:11 +0200
> PMS accurately reflected the Portage documentation at the time it was
> written and at the time it was approved.
Agreed, but I think it was supposed to reflect Portage 'behaviour' at the
time. Of co
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:01:48 +0200
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> That being said I don't like refraining from "return value approach"
> towards "exception handling approach"
nonfatal's not an exception handling approach. Think of it as a utility
like 'nice', 'ionice', 'xargs', 'env' or 'hilite'.
--
On 08/22/2009 01:55 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
Hello!
Arrivals
The third peport table on installed packages "most-unmasked" has just
arrived:
http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/static/stats/gentoo.html#installed_packages_most_unmasked
Is there something special required to use smolt?
On Friday 21 of August 2009 23:12:23 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:09:33 +0200
> Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> > I suggest #5 - drop the idea of 'nonfatal'.
> Then how do you plan to handle all the standard utilities that die on
> failure in EAPI 3?
>>> #1 make die respect nonfata
Hello!
Arrivals
The third peport table on installed packages "most-unmasked" has just
arrived:
http://smolt.hartwork.org:45678/static/stats/gentoo.html#installed_packages_most_unmasked
Questions
=
Before adding the forth "least-installed" table, I'd like to take the
chance to
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:40:04 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> I would like to also notice that (not yet approved by Council)
> definition of nonfatal() in PMS was recently drastically changed
> without proper discussion with developers of other package managers.
> [1] was sent ab
2009-08-21 22:56:41 David Leverton napisał(a):
> In EAPI 3, most commands and functions provided by the package
> manager automatically call die if they fail. There's also a
> new "nonfatal" function that can be used to suppress this
> behaviour: by prefixing a function/command call with nonfatal,
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:42:11 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> > How does changing the portage documentation magically add this to
> > the PMS?
>
> PMS developers are unwilling to fix many bugs in PMS.
This is not a bug in PMS.
PMS accurately reflected the Portage documentation
2009-08-21 23:17:56 Ryan Hill napisał(a):
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:25:35 +0200
> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
>
> > 2009-08-13 07:55:22 Ryan Hill napisał(a):
> > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:56 +0100
> > > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200
> >
On Friday 21 August 2009 21:56:41 David Leverton wrote:
> A potential advantage of this over the previous solution is that if
> the "force" option is implemented with an environment variable,
> it can be used regardless of EAPI
...except that the previous solution could use an environment variable
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:25:35 +0200
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> 2009-08-13 07:55:22 Ryan Hill napisał(a):
> > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:56 +0100
> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200
> > > Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> > > > Also we should allow the s
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:09:33 +0200
Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
> I suggest #5 - drop the idea of 'nonfatal'.
Then how do you plan to handle all the standard utilities that die on
failure in EAPI 3?
--
Ciaran McCreesh
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On Friday 21 of August 2009 22:56:41 David Leverton wrote:
> Does anyone have any opinions on which of the four options (#1
> make die respect nonfatal, #2 make die always die, #3 add a new
> die variant that respects nonfatal, #4 make regular die respect
> nonfatal, and add a new variant that does
In EAPI 3, most commands and functions provided by the package
manager automatically call die if they fail. There's also a
new "nonfatal" function that can be used to suppress this
behaviour: by prefixing a function/command call with nonfatal,
the automatic die behaviour is suppressed during the e
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've been doing some more mucking with the Bugzilla code and setup, and
> I think I've got most of the issues worked out that previously prevented
> it from being fully load balanced.
>
> So, please test at:
> http://bugs-web-
Samuli Suominen posted on Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:09:10 +0300 as excerpted:
> Rémi Cardona wrote:
>> Samuli Suominen a écrit :
>>> description: "Support for MP4 container format"
>>>
>>> [+ C ] mp4 (media-sound/amarok):
>>> Build the TagLib plugin for writing tags in Mp4 container files (m4a).
>>> Pl
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Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Samuli Suominen a écrit :
>> description: "Support for MP4 container format"
>>
>> [+ C ] mp4 (media-sound/amarok):
>> Build the TagLib plugin for writing tags in Mp4 container files (m4a).
>> Please note that by enabling this USE flag, the resulting package will
>> not be re
2009/8/21 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis :
> Portage documentation has been properly fixed (and the fix will be released
> in next version) and this feature can now be used in 10.0 profiles.
No. Changing the documentation does not retroactively change existing EAPIs.
2009-08-13 07:55:22 Ryan Hill napisał(a):
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:56 +0100
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200
> > Tomáš Chvátal wrote:
> > > Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage already
> > > handles it right).
> >
> > That's a seperate
Samuli Suominen a écrit :
description: "Support for MP4 container format"
[+ C ] mp4 (media-sound/amarok):
Build the TagLib plugin for writing tags in Mp4 container files (m4a).
Please note that by enabling this USE flag, the resulting package will
not be redistributable, as it links to media-l
description: "Support for MP4 container format"
[+ C ] mp4 (media-sound/amarok):
Build the TagLib plugin for writing tags in Mp4 container files (m4a).
Please note that by enabling this USE flag, the resulting package will
not be redistributable, as it links to media-libs/libmp4v2, distributed
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