Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: oasis.eclass for oasis-based ocaml packages.

2012-03-27 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:44:03 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > eclass version 2.0, i hope i haven't forgotten any comment > > I improved some comments/description after a second read also. since there were no more comments: eclass committed, thanks all

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 04:08 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 28 March 2012 08:59, William Hubbs wrote: >> What I was wanting to discuss mainly was that /usr/portage isn't >> right; I think we need to move that out of the /usr directory. >> >> I'm not sure what t

Re: [gentoo-dev] cygwin prefix patch: request for eyeballs

2012-03-27 Thread Gregory M. Turner
- Original Message - > > 'if not os.environ["PORTAGE_PYTONPATH"]:' > If PORTAGE_PYTHONPATH is not in os.environ then it will raise a > KeyError, that is why we are doing a contains to begin with. I somehow got the idea that the python gods had sprinkled magical syntax-sugar on bool(x[y])

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 08:57, Richard Yao wrote: > > Could we amend this to also include the benefits of ZFS and why you > would want to use XFS or reiserfs instead of ext{2,3,4} as your > filesystem in situations where ZFS is not yet appropriate (e.g. using it > on Gentoo stable)? We could also include

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 08:59, William Hubbs wrote: > What I was wanting to discuss mainly was that /usr/portage isn't right; > I think we need to move that out of the /usr directory. > > I'm not sure what the new default should be, nor how the default should > be decided. Maybe we just let Zac pick one?

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Alec Moskvin
On Tuesday 27 March 2012 14:34:03, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 20:01 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a > > > separate partition for /usr/p

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 05:19:10PM +0200, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 3/26/12 7:20 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." > > wrote: > >> I posted this issue here because it's not obvious what to do with it. > >> That version of pybugz worked for me be

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 08:47, Alec Warner wrote: > The gentoo-x86 ebuild tree is not necessarily portage related. > However I think we should paint the bike shed '/srv/tree' I for one never developed any love for /srv , its always seemed like an unwanted bit of poo left behind by an unloved gremlin.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Richard Yao
On 03/27/12 15:13, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > On 03/27/2012 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> All, > >> I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the >> specific objections were. > >> IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was >> chatting with another d

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/27/2012 03:47 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, William Hubbs > wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: >>> On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs >>> wrote: /var/cache/repositories/gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:47:10PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > >> On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs wrote: > >> /var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* > >> /var/cache/repositor

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Richard Yao
On 03/27/12 14:34, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to decide on > *before* getting Gentoo up and running. After the user had finished > installing the operating system, it's too late to inform him about the > advantages of a separate /usr/porta

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: >> On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs wrote: >> /var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* >> /var/cache/repositories/perl-experimental/* >> /var/cache/distfiles/* >> /var/cache/package

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:29:50AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > > > > /var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* > > /var/cache/repositories/perl-experimental/* > > /var/cache/distfiles/* > > /var/cache/packages/* > > > > > Actually, now I think of it, repositories /might/ be suitable for > being under /db

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 02:29:34PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > Why not just the separate "quick install" guide like we have that lists > steps and the handbook if yu want more details? We came from that. It means we need to start managing "just the commands" for each architecture. After a while,

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:25:58AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs wrote: > /var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* > /var/cache/repositories/perl-experimental/* > /var/cache/distfiles/* > /var/cache/packages/* These sub directories are all portage related, so it is b

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Krzysztof Pawlik
On 27/03/12 21:17, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 27/03/12 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> All, > >> I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the >> specific objections were. > >> IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was >> chatting with another dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/27/2012 03:13 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 27/03/12 03:04 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > >>> You know, we have "Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem Example" in >>> Section 4, we could always adjust that to have a /usr/portage >>> partition in it

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
> > /var/cache/repositories/gentoo/* > /var/cache/repositories/perl-experimental/* > /var/cache/distfiles/* > /var/cache/packages/* > Actually, now I think of it, repositories /might/ be suitable for being under /db/ the repository does sort of function like a database, the tools we use to access

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:20:45AM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 28 March 2012 08:15, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > >> Then again, Gentoo is about choice.  It just seems like we're > >> presenting users with more choices than makes sense for a newbie.  If > >> there is a choice between something that

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 08:05, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the > specific objections were. > > IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. > I was chatting with another developer who uses > /var/cache/portage/{tree,distfil

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 08:15, Sven Vermeulen wrote: >> Then again, Gentoo is about choice.  It just seems like we're >> presenting users with more choices than makes sense for a newbie.  If >> there is a choice between something that 99.99% of users will want, >> and some ancient piece of cruft that sti

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the > specific objections were. > > IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was > chatting with another deve

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 28 March 2012 07:53, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > You know, we have "Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem Example" in Section 4, > we could always adjust that to have a /usr/portage partition in it > (take a bit of space away from /home, or something) > > It doesn't recommend/require anything, but when us

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 02:47:15PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev > > 1. ext4, not ext3, needs to be recommended as the default filesystem. We > > have kernel 3.2 marked stable, there is no need to keep talking about > > ext4 as if it's something

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 03:04 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > >> You know, we have "Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem Example" in >> Section 4, we could always adjust that to have a /usr/portage >> partition in it (take a bit of space away from /home, or >> something)

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/27/2012 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the > specific objections were. > > IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was > chatting with another de

[gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-27 Thread William Hubbs
All, I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the specific objections were. IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was chatting with another developer who uses /var/cache/portage/{tree,distfiles}, and I'm thinking about switching my default setup to do

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/27/2012 02:53 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 27/03/12 02:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev >> >>> The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to >>> decide on *before* getting

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 27/03/2012 20:53, Ian Stakenvicius ha scritto: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 02:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to decide on *before* getting Gentoo up an

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 02:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev > >> The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to >> decide on *before* getting Gentoo up and running. After the user >> had finished in

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev > The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to decide on > *before* getting Gentoo up and running. After the user had finished > installing the operating system, it's too late to inform him about the > advantages of a separate /u

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 20:01 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a > > separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my first Gentoo > > systems had it inside / and

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/27/2012 02:01 PM, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: >> I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to >> create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my >> first

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:49:00 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a > separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I don't know whether you've heard, but PackageKit (a hard dependency of udev as of 185, to allow automatic installation of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:49:00PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a > separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my first Gentoo > systems had it inside / and that lead to a lot of fragmentation, much > slower "emerge -pvuD

[gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello I am a bit surprised handbook still doesn't suggest people to create a separate partition for /usr/portage tree. I remember my first Gentoo systems had it inside / and that lead to a lot of fragmentation, much slower "emerge -pvuDN world" (I benchmarked it when I changed my partitioning sche

Re: [gentoo-dev] cygwin prefix patch: request for eyeballs

2012-03-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Gregory M. Turner wrote: > - Original Message - >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Gregory M. Turner >> wrote: >> > https://github.com/gmt/gmt-cygwin-overlay/blob/master/sys-apps/portage/files/portage-2.2.01.20271-cygdll_protect.patch > >> Consistency in

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 3/26/12 7:20 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." > wrote: >> I posted this issue here because it's not obvious what to do with it. >> That version of pybugz worked for me before (20 February 2012). >> >> Any ideas? >> > I'm guessing it was broken by th

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Ian Whyman wrote: > On 27 March 2012 08:33, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44, Alec Warner wrote: Long term, we may want to consider porting pybugz to use Bugzilla's XML-RPC api to avoid such breakage. >>> >>> XML-RPC is shit. >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 27/03/12 04:04 AM, Ian Whyman wrote: > On 27 March 2012 08:33, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44, Alec Warner >> wrote: Long term, we may want to consider porting pybugz to use Bugzilla's XML-RPC api to avoid such

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Ian Whyman
On 27 March 2012 08:33, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44, Alec Warner wrote: >>> Long term, we may want to consider porting pybugz to use Bugzilla's >>> XML-RPC api to avoid such breakage. >> >> XML-RPC is shit. > > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:REST_API > Shame that it

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-27 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44, Alec Warner wrote: >> Long term, we may want to consider porting pybugz to use Bugzilla's >> XML-RPC api to avoid such breakage. > > XML-RPC is shit. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:REST_API