[gentoo-dev] libfm requires dbus-glib to build, but it is not listed as a dependency.

2016-08-11 Thread alexmcwhirter
The title pretty much explains it all. I did a clean install using the generic desktop profile and went on to build lxqt. The build failed with libfm which complained of dbus-glib not being found. A quick emerge of dbus-glib resolved the issue. this would be libfm-1.2.3-r1

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 18:00, kirjutas Mike Gilbert: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Kent Fredric > wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:07:27 -0400 > > Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > > > > but realistically this should be > > > installed to /usr/$(get_libdir)/debiancompat/ or simila

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Kent Fredric
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:27:14 -0700 Patrick McLean wrote: > It's not like there is a shortage of > packages that install crappy crap on your system... In this instance I agree that we're kinda stressing about the wrong thing. But I can't support that reasoning. "There is bad stuff in tree so w

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Patrick McLean
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:50:53 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 20:56:20 +0100 > James Le Cuirot wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:05:00 -0400 > > Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > > > > On 11/08/16 10:57 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 12

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:07:27 -0400 > Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > >> but realistically this should be >> installed to /usr/$(get_libdir)/debiancompat/ or similar, and if you >> still don't want to wrap the apps that need it then also install an

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > If you are going to commit such crap into Gentoo ignoring people more > knowledgeable than you, please spare us the effort and open a QA bug > against it requesting that you remove it immediately. Thank you. Feel > free to also request revokin

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Kent Fredric
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:07:27 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > but realistically this should be > installed to /usr/$(get_libdir)/debiancompat/ or similar, and if you > still don't want to wrap the apps that need it then also install an > /etc/env.d/ file to add this dir to the LDPATH. +1 to this.

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:50:53 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > > We don't package Steam itself and doing so isn't viable. We package > > upstream's script for bootstrapping it under the user's HOME. As > > such, there is nowhere to create such a symlink. It's not actually > > Steam itself that requires

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 20:56:20 +0100 James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:05:00 -0400 > Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > > On 11/08/16 10:57 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 12:56, kirjutas Ulrich > > > Mueller: > > >>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, Jame

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 11/08/16 03:56 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:05:00 -0400 > Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > >> On 11/08/16 10:57 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >>> Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 12:56, kirjutas Ulrich >>> Mueller: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, James Le Cuirot wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:05:00 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 11/08/16 10:57 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 12:56, kirjutas Ulrich > > Mueller: > >>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, James Le Cuirot wrote: > >> > Have you asked Debian why they are doing th

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Patrick McLean
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:53:31 +1200 Kent Fredric wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 00:10:53 +0100 > James Le Cuirot wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > We, like almost everyone else and presumably upstream, install PCRE > > 8 as libpcre.so.1. Debian, for reasons best known to themselves, > > install it

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Deven Lahoti
On Aug 11, 2016 1:03 PM, "Matt Turner" wrote: > The API is Vulkan with a k. Vulcan is where Spock is from. Thanks for contributing to the discussion.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: Desktop

2016-08-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 11-08-2016 a las 13:15 +0300, Mart Raudsepp escribió: > [...] > It should be kept for the purposes of coordination between different > specific desktop projects and the grouping of them it provides as > subprojects. > However that doesn't mean it should have any packages in the tree > that

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 11:27 AM, james wrote: > be able to offer guidance, hence, I have filed no bugs on Vulcan. I'm not The API is Vulkan with a k. Vulcan is where Spock is from.

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread james
On 08/11/2016 11:32 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 11:23, kirjutas james: Whilst devs are discussing the future of Valve's offerings on gentoo, it'd be wise to consider the effects of "Vulcan" as it is FOSS where all video card vendors can inter-operate with multi

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2016-08-11 Thread Michael Palimaka
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Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 11:23, kirjutas james: > Whilst devs are discussing the future of Valve's offerings on > gentoo,  > it'd be wise to consider the effects of "Vulcan" as it is FOSS where > all  > video card vendors can inter-operate with multiple game vendors. > Vulcan  > will i

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread james
On 08/10/2016 06:10 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: Hello all, We, like almost everyone else and presumably upstream, install PCRE 8 as libpcre.so.1. Debian, for reasons best known to themselves, install it as libpcre.so.3. With Ubuntu still being the most widely accepted "standard" Linux desktop, th

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 00:10:53 +0100 > James Le Cuirot wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> We, like almost everyone else and presumably upstream, install PCRE 8 >> as libpcre.so.1. Debian, for reasons best known to themselves, install >> it as libpcre

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 11:05, kirjutas Ian Stakenvicius: > Wouldn't the most simple solution here would be to make a symlink for > libpcre.so.3 within the local bindir for each Valve or whatever > package that needs it?  This is a binary-package-supporting hack, > might as well do it

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 11/08/16 10:57 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 12:56, kirjutas Ulrich Mueller: >>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, James Le Cuirot wrote: >> Have you asked Debian why they are doing that? >> >>> I did find out but had since forgotten. Here it is: >>> https://bugs.d

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 17:57:59 +0300 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > I strongly believe that it's important to have such a use case as > Steam work problem-free in Gentoo. Steam isn't a use case, it's a program. -- Ciaran McCreesh

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, N, 11.08.2016 kell 12:56, kirjutas Ulrich Mueller: > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, James Le Cuirot wrote: > > > > Have you asked Debian why they are doing that? > > > I did find out but had since forgotten. Here it is: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3807

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, James Le Cuirot wrote: > >> That makes it slightly more awkward for binaries you may have >> installed manually. > > It is impossible to support all third-party binaries, especially if > they link against non-standa

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, James Le Cuirot wrote: > That makes it slightly more awkward for binaries you may have > installed manually. It is impossible to support all third-party binaries, especially if they link against non-standard libraries because they aim for bug compatibility with another

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 08/11/2016 01:20 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:56:02 +0200 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > IMHO providing compatibility symlinks for proprietary binary-only programs isn't the task of the libpcre package. >> >>> I'm fine with putting it in libpcre-debian package as

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:56:02 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> IMHO providing compatibility symlinks for proprietary binary-only > >> programs isn't the task of the libpcre package. > > > I'm fine with putting it in libpcre-debian package as kentnl > > suggested. > > I still think that the l

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, James Le Cuirot wrote: >> Have you asked Debian why they are doing that? > I did find out but had since forgotten. Here it is: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=380725#10 So they are aware of the issue since 10 years, but chose not to fix it? Seriousl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty project: Desktop

2016-08-11 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, T, 09.08.2016 kell 12:02, kirjutas Jason Zaman: > On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 04:37:23PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El dom, 07-08-2016 a las 09:07 -0400, NP-Hardass escribió: > > >  [...] > > > Well, that's easily remedied with an alias for the project that > > > contains > > > al

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:43:41 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, James Le Cuirot wrote: > > > We, like almost everyone else and presumably upstream, install PCRE > > 8 as libpcre.so.1. Debian, for reasons best known to themselves, > > install it as libpcre.so.3. With Ubunt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Asking for permission to update packages from LINGUAS to L10N

2016-08-11 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016, NP-Hardass wrote: > I was going through my packages to make sure that I was compliant with > this change, and found that I was not. The l10n eclass makes use of the > LINGUAS USE_EXPAND and isn't covered in the tracker bug. I attempted to > read through the old thread

Re: [gentoo-dev] libpcre.so.3 - Compatibility with Debian

2016-08-11 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, James Le Cuirot wrote: > We, like almost everyone else and presumably upstream, install PCRE 8 > as libpcre.so.1. Debian, for reasons best known to themselves, install > it as libpcre.so.3. With Ubuntu still being the most widely accepted > "standard" Linux desktop, this