# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-10-16)
# Binary-only package, cannot be distributed, download
# is an unversioned URL which changes content. In brief,
# a pain. Unmaintained from now on. If you pick it up,
# you'll have to watch it closely. Removal in 30 days
# otherwise. Bug 794700.
net-im/webex
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# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-10-16)
# Outdated virtual; the respective module was removed
# from core Perl with Perl 5.32. Use dev-perl/Pod-Parser
# instead. Removal in 30days.
virtual/perl-Pod-Parser
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Am Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2021, 21:43:40 CEST schrieb Oskari Pirhonen:
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 08:57:26PM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> > So, let's make that number go down further fast! :D Cheers!
>
> What is the best way to help with that? Should I just grep for "EAPI=5
We've reached the number of only 1000 EAPI=5 ebuilds left in the gentoo
repository today!
So, let's make that number go down further fast! :D Cheers!
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Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2021, 10:20:10 CEST schrieb Torokhov
Sergey:
> Sorry for previous html message. I tried to recend it as plaintext.
>
> I have repos configs placed into /etc/portage/repos.conf with
> "rsync-type = git" fo all repos so I created binhost.cond file here
> instead of
Am Montag, 20. September 2021, 19:27:37 CEST schrieb Rich Freeman:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 12:46 PM Alec Warner wrote:
> > Could we add some text to the license concepts covering patents? It
> > seems to have been omitted?
> > Is my understanding of how we manage patented software correct?
>
>
>
> I generally agree that comments are more visible/noticeable than
> metadata, however, I also think that this could be a good step forward
> for overall maintainability. The issue with documenting these things
> in comments is that the comment lives only within the specific version
> of the
So let's experiment with this... :) announcing:
https://gentoo.osuosl.org/experimental/amd64/binpkg/default/linux/17.1/x86-64/
More information can be found in a blog post, which will also be on planet.g.o
soon:
https://dilfridge.blogspot.com/2021/09/experimental-binary-gentoo-package.html
+# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-12-19)
+# Outdated and not needed anymore (this was a releng workaround)
+# Removal in 30 days, please compile it yourself from app-emulation/qemu
+app-emulation/qemu-riscv64-bin
+
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Thank you! Pushed.
Am Samstag, 25. Dezember 2021, 05:23:41 CET schrieb WANG Xuerui:
> From: WANG Xuerui
>
> There is only full support for the LP64D ABI in the initial upstream
> submissions for the various low-level pieces, so full multilib
> combinations are not pursued at the moment; but the
> Maybe consider three new top-level categories?:
> - print-drivers
> - print-filters
> - print-misc
Only if you take care of them. printing project is somewhat understaffed.
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Hey all,
in the spirit of our "2020 in retrospect & happy new year 2021!" front page
article,
https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/01/15/new-year.html
which was rather well received, I'd already like to start collecting news from
2021!
Suggestions, text snippets, illustrations welcome- either
> Honestly, I think this is pretty on-topic for gentoo-dev given a lot of us
> are quite interested in this.
^ this
> - I'm not sure why you would need virtual/toolchain or virtual/binutils
> unless it's just for usage within bootstrapping scripts? Seems more like
> you could just remove gcc from
Mike,
could you please do this just like everyone else, i.e. file a bug and give
arch teams a go? Even if you're on all the arch teams? Even if you know the
code best? More eyes do not hurt.
(I am absolutely not in the mood right now for hunting down why alpha stage
builds now fail.)
TIA
>
> PS.
> checking whether the C compiler works... *
> /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/sandbox-2.25/work/sandbox-2.25/libsandbox/trace.c:_do_ptrace():83:
> failure (Function not implemented):
> * ISE:_do_ptrace: ptrace(PTRACE_TRACEME, ..., 0x,
> 0x): Function not
# Andreas K. Huettel (2021-11-04)
# Unused and outdated packages; the version in core Perl is
# newer. Removal in 30 days.
perl-core/Module-Metadata
perl-core/parent
perl-core/podlators
perl-core/Pod-Simple
perl-core/Sys-Syslog
perl-core/Term-ANSIColor
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Am Mittwoch, 3. November 2021, 16:03:37 CET schrieb Thomas Deutschmann:
> Hi,
>
> it is currently not possible to smoothly run a world upgrade on a 4
> months old system which doesn't even have a complicated package list:
>
[snip]
Yup. We know. It's actually way worse than you describe [*] and
> I think the obvious easy solution here is to run a CI that is using
> older stuff, and report problems when commits break that.
Something that's been bouncing around my head:
* archive stage3 files somewhere official
* run a weekly CI job that attempts to upgrade a N-weeks old
stage3 to
Am Mittwoch, 3. November 2021, 22:39:41 CET schrieb Ulrich Mueller:
> >>>>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2021, Andreas K Huettel wrote:
>
> > The mistake was to allow the use of EAPI=8 too early. In the future,
> > we should have a new EAPI supported by portage for at leas
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-12-13)
# Outdated, all versions in core Perl are newer. Removal in 30 days.
perl-core/IO-Zlib
perl-core/Module-CoreList
perl-core/Test
perl-core/Text-Balanced
perl-core/Text-ParseWords
perl-core/Thread-Semaphore
perl-core/Time-HiRes
perl-core/version
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# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-07-17)
# Obsolete virtual; package was removed from the Perl
# core distribution. Please depend on dev-perl/Pod-Parser
# instead. Removal in 30 days.
virtual/perl-Pod-Parser
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# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-07-17)
# Obsolete; all versions in current Perl core distributions
# are newer, and no virtuals currently pull these packages.
# Removal in 30 days.
perl-core/Archive-Tar
perl-core/CPAN-Meta
perl-core/CPAN-Meta-Requirements
perl-core/Data-Dumper
perl-core/Digest
>
> Gentoo is about choice. if there are users that want to use deblob I
> don't see why we don't have to add the option.
>
Errr how is *removing the firmware loader* about choice?
You have all the choice of the world by just not providing any firmware to load.
Removing the loader removes
> My modest opinion on the topic is:
> As far that is free software and there are users that use deblob, I
> don't see any reason on why we should not support this and give them
> the
> choice. Gentoo is about choice.
[snip]
> deblob is only supported for rt-sources.
>
Am Samstag, 24. Juli 2021, 17:16:23 CEST schrieb Michał Górny:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> I've been asked to repost the idea of removing SHA512 hash from
> Manifests, effectively limiting them to BLAKE2B.
Just keep things as they are for now.
Even reading this bike^H^H^H^Hthread is more effort than
> >
> > 1) either the severity assignment of this bug by the Security project as B1
> > wrong (i.e. it should have been classified "harmless")
> >
>
> The Gentoo model is not perfect and should be overhauled. However, it
> works for most things and sometimes bugs fall between the cracks.
>
>
>
> TL;DR: how to deal with setuptools (and newer distutils vendored by
> setuptools) replacing .egg-info files with directories?
> I should probably emphasize here that the .egg-info path contains
> the package version, so this is a problem only if the same upstream
> version is being
> >
> > I wouldn't block anyone from doing this, but it's not something I'm
> > personally interested in pursuing. I see very little value here.
>
> First, you're trying to justify replacing repoman on an entirely subjective
> opinion of "I think is superior" ...
Well, if you've ever tried it
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2022-02-27)
# Outdated, fails to build with glibc-2.34, bug 806755
# Has been integrated into net-fs/nfs-utils, please use that instead.
# Removal in 30 days.
net-libs/libnfsidmap
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> Dilfridge had a proposal to ensure 3/6/12 month old systems could still
> upgrade, and I'm wondering if this could break those systems.
>
> There are 3 commits in the last year that finally removed the EAPI 5/6
> toolchain consumers:
> 486b77ab8d28c5bfd5a4bdfc5f9a5f432ffde563
>
Am Mittwoch, 26. Januar 2022, 00:11:42 CET schrieb Andreas K. Huettel:
> Hey all,
>
> I just added sys-libs/glibc-2.33-r9 which is a security fix for the 2.33
> series
> (and also adds ebuild improvements backported from the 2.34 series).
This just became 2.33-r10 - but th
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2022-01-22)
# Prelink support is being removed from glibc and was
# already somewhat broken for a while...
# hmaccalc hard-depends on it (?).
# Removal in 30 days.
sys-devel/prelink
app-crypt/hmaccalc
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Hey all,
I just added sys-libs/glibc-2.33-r9 which is a security fix for the 2.33 series
(and also adds ebuild improvements backported from the 2.34 series).
Please, if you're still running glibc-2.33, consider testing it! We want to
stabilize it rather soon. Building and normal use...
Am Montag, 11. September 2023, 17:22:43 CEST schrieb orbea:
> Upstream is maintained still.
>
> https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev
>
No, it's not.
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# Andreas K. Hüttel (2023-09-11)
# Dead project accumulating open bugs and incompatibilities.
# No maintainer commits since February 2021.
# Bugs 673834, 713106, 753134, 667686, 771705, 668880, 770358, 851255,
# 711462, 904741, ... Removal in 30 days.
sys-fs/eudev
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# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-07-06, 2023-09-15)
# No longer maintained upstream; masked everywhere for two years now.
# Please see also the 2021-07-15-opentmpfiles-deprecation news item.
#
https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-07-15-opentmpfiles-deprecation.html
#
# The replacement is
> >> I'm an outsider to Gentoo development (just a heavy user for over a
> >> decade both personally and professionally) so I might have missed
> >> something. I just find it puzzling.
> >
> > I'm not puzzled by what is going on, or by your email, because it
> > happens basically anytime a
+# Andreas K. Hüttel (2023-10-28)
+# Fails to build with glibc-2.38 (and musl). No maintainer.
+# Removal on 2023-11-28. Bug #713402
+app-editors/fte
+
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Hi all,
it's time for introducing 22.0 profiles [1] - so if you have any things that
need to
be switched in an incompatible way tree-wide, or if you have any suggestions on
how
to change our default settings, please reply to this mail with details!
Cheers,
Andreas
[1] Why? That's a quite
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2022-06-05)
# Ages old, abandoned upstream, and server installs now provide an
# actually useful webmail interface. Removal in 30 days.
mail-client/novell-groupwise-client
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> Once again new council has been elected: congratulations to the chosen
> members! And once again many nominees expressed their wishes to see more
> non-developer contributors to become official developers. Yet, only very
> few people (if any) are interested in mentoring them. I get it, the
>
>
> 2nd RFC: Recruiting proven contributors without a mentor
>
> I'm aware recruiters don't really need to ask a permission here, but I
> believe it's great to gauge the general feelings about this beforehand.
> What would you say if recruiters started more actively approaching
> potential
Hey all,
we'll do a base-system team meeting 15/May 19:00 utc, on #gentoo-base.
There will be only one agenda item, lead election (since I'm stepping
down as base lead and will not seek re-election).
Cheers,
Andreas
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Hey all,
in the past I already sent a mail about features for a next profile version.
The feedback was rather limited, but anyway we got quite a list of ideas.
The general tracker is bug 876891.
In the following I would like to put up the various features for discussion,
in order of bug
>
> acct-group/cron
> acct-group/fcron
> acct-user/cron
> acct-user/fcron
> dev-libs/libelf
> net-misc/curl
> sys-process/cronbase
> sys-process/fcron
> virtual/cron
> virtual/libelf
>
These should probably go to base-system
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>
> Just keep in mind that CI can't search for open bugs on bugzilla (because of
> a down of
> course), so bugs that have already been reported in the past, may be reported
> on github
> too, but from my perspective is better have few duplicates rather than
> unnoticed bugs
> that may reach
Dear all,
I'd like to add
sec-keys/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release
to @system - any objections?
The package contains a single file (~20k) with the public keys used for stage,
manifest, and binpackage signing.
This is more of a formal request since portage already depends on it anyway, and
the
Am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2023, 06:02:14 CEST schrieb Joshua Kinard:
>
> Noticing that the ebuild for gcc-12.3.0 got dropped with little explanation.
> It is the upstream stable
> release. I am eyeballing #906310 as what may have triggered the drop, but I
> find it a bit of a stretch ...
This
News item / update instructions draft:
Title: Profile upgrade to version 23.0 available
Author: Andreas K. Huettel
Posted: -mm-dd
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 2.0
Display-If-Keyword: alpha
Display-If-Keyword: arm
Display-If-Keyword: ia64
Display-If-Keyword: loong
Display-If-Keyword: m68k
Hi all,
for the following arches (and only these)
** GLIBC:
** alpha, arm, ia64, loong, m68k, ppc, ppc64, riscv, s390, sparc, x86
** MUSL:
** riscv
the 23.0 profiles are ready for testing, including stage downloads,
binary packages, and update instructions for existing installations.
Hi all,
you may have already seen the announcement on the www.gentoo.org front page-
our binary package hosting finally went "officially live".
https://www.gentoo.org/news/2023/12/29/Gentoo-binary.html
From the announcement: "To speed up working with slow hardware and for overall
> > we have many local gpg useflags which basically just enable gpg.
> > Should we merge these to one global useflag?
> >
> > Additionally we have a few gpgme useflags.
> > See also https://bugs.gentoo.org/679634
> >
> > What are your ideas?
> >
>
> We have also have a bunch of USE=pgp and
Hi all,
here's a brief update on the upcoming 23.0 profiles.
* All planned features are implemented (but not necessarily tested).
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Toolchain/23.0_profile_transition
* A draft upgrade document exists.
Am Sonntag, 26. November 2023, 17:50:22 CET schrieb Alex Boag-Munroe:
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 at 23:27, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>
> > * A draft upgrade document exists.
> > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Toolchain/23.0_update_instructions
>
> I can't edit the
ged-usr but
> without systemd anyway... except that there is:
> default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/plasma, it's just not mentioned in the
> table.
It's fairly simple:
* In 17.x, every systemd split-usr profile has a corresponding merged-usr
profile
* In 23.0, every split-usr profile
>
> Wait, does this mean that split-usr will be gone soon?
>
Define soon.
It took us 6 years to come up with new profiles.
Guess how long the next ones will take.
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Am Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2024, 09:15:39 CET schrieb Robin H. Johnson:
> TL;DR:
> I'd like to propose a change where packages should NOT install their
> tests to ${D} by default. Such an install may optionally enabled with
> USE=test, which should be decoupled from FEATURES=test. Or depending on
>
Am Mittwoch, 22. November 2023, 00:33:18 CET schrieb
stefan1@shitposting.expert:
> I've noticed that on my last @world update, mpv's libplacebo USE flag
> got removed and portage pulled in libplacebo.
> Was there any reason behind this change?
Special request by Placebo Domingo.
> Mpv has
Am Dienstag, 27. Februar 2024, 15:45:17 CET schrieb Michał Górny:
> Hello,
>
> Given the recent spread of the "AI" bubble, I think we really need to
> look into formally addressing the related concerns. In my opinion,
> at this point the only reasonable course of action would be to safely
> ban
Hi all,
the 23.0 profiles are ready for testing, including stage downloads,
binary packages, and update instructions for existing installations,
for all arches.
IMPORTANT Exception IMPORTANT
** musl on (32bit) arm and x86 does NOT work yet (gcc build failure) **
IMPORTANT Update instructions
Hi Jaco,
* we have more stages
* the binary packages have to go somewhere
* and, temporarily, things are duplicated due to the 17.x / 23.0 profile
transition
The third point will eventually go away. However, I'm not sure how much it
actually
contributes.
> > Note 2: While there are 23.0 split-usr profiles, the *stage* downloads
> > are *all* of the merged-usr type. Why? Not because I'm a big fan of that,
> > but because we should try to unify and standardize a bit again - to
> > avoid too many different build configurations leading to too many
Am Samstag, 16. März 2024, 13:12:04 CET schrieb Duncan:
> Andreas K. Huettel posted on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:12:54 +0100 as excerpted:
>
> > Note 3: amd64 now has CET turned on by default.
> > https://docs.kernel.org/next/x86/shstk.html If you have already used the
> > u
Am Sonntag, 7. April 2024, 14:51:55 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky:
> On Sun, 2024-04-07 at 14:35 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> >
> > Uhh, I dont really remember, I think some Chinese-sounding guy asked
> > me for it... (j/k)
>
> It is remarkably bad timing. How
> I see no way of migrating to 23.0 profile because of not-recompilable
> packages that are installed (over 4 years) which block --emptytree,
> and do not wish to be forced to migrate to merged-usr on an openrc box
> without a compelling need (on principle).
That sounds a bit like self-inflicted
> > Most 17.x profiles have been downgraded to "exp".
>
> I could imagine there is a reason to downgrade those back to 'exp',
> could you elaborate a bit on that?
>
> Isn't it bit strange that a 'stable' profiles gets downgraded back to
> 'exp'? Then again, I am not sure about the implications
Am Sonntag, 7. April 2024, 04:03:01 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky:
> On Sat, 2024-04-06 at 17:06 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > so here's a small update on the state of the 23.0 profiles:
> >
>
> Why was this silently added to ma
Hi all,
so here's a small update on the state of the 23.0 profiles:
* For all arches, the 23.0 profiles are now marked at the same stability status
(mostly for the CI and pkgcheck) as before the 17.x profiles. Most 17.x
profiles
have been downgraded to "exp".
* All stage downloads (with
.
Title: dev-lang/perl useflags become a PERL_FEATURES use-expand
Author: Andreas K. Huettel
Posted: 2024-05-10
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 2.0
Starting with dev-lang/perl-5.38.2-r3, the three use flags "debug",
"ithreads", and "quadmath" of Perl are renamed int
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