than last-wins, should than
not be 'smaller number'?
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Does fwupd do all of the other stuff the binaries in colorhug-client
support?
Or just firmware updates?
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>>>>> "UM" == Ulrich Mueller writes:
UM> I was specifically asking about Gentoo infra there.
ah; i completely missed that bit.
sorry for the misunderstanding.
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or even on any given box?
forcing existing boxen to change just because a new dist is added
is also unacceptable.
for me though, it would be enough if there is something i can add to
make.conf to ensure that the acct-user and acct-group builds avoid the
ranges i already use.
that may also wor
dynamic.
and 500-700 never touched by the distribution.
-JimC
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>>>>> "RHJ" == Robin H Johnson writes:
RHJ> The best I can come up with at the moment, is that any packaging should
RHJ> detect if there are user modifications, and provide control to users
RHJ> based on that fact.
Exactly. Akin to etc-update.
-Jim
there are not too many packages to look at:
:; git grep -P IUSE.+unicode.*\"|awk -F/ '{print $1 "/" $2}'|sort -u|wc -l
82
so it should ot take too uch effort.
and it definitely would be worth it!
-JimC
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>>>>> "UM" == Ulrich Mueller writes:
UM> So, removal of the package seems to be the only option that makes sense,
UM> unless we would downgrade to that old version.
Agreed. Cest la vie.
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>>>>> "UM" == Ulrich Mueller writes:
UM> I've sent an e-mail message upstream, asking for confirmation that 10.24
UM> can be used, copied, modified, and/or distributed freely.
cool. i hope useful info results.
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or any use'.
If 10.24 is in wayback, 10.23 probably is as well.
The last usable version would be a useful find.
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me=DutSVV
it says so on that page.
My recollection was pd in general, but i see there may be some not.
I paid closer attention to things that would go under app-dict before
the last couple of strokes
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>>>>> "UM" == Ulrich Mueller writes:
UM> # Ulrich Müller (2020-01-06)
UM> # No license, therefore we have no permission to redistribute
That is untrue. They are public domain.
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>>>>> "RY" == Richard Yao writes:
RY> ext4 is probably okay, but don’t quote me on that.
Ext4 works fine here for a local distfiles mirror.
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:0010
armv7l
I have a couple of cheap arm32 (don't recall manuf) which report:
hwcap:000fb8d7
hwcap2:
armv7l
A c.h.i.p. says:
hwcap:0008b0d6
hwcap2:
armv7l
All of my other arm boards are offline.
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should be used for system uids.
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>>>>> "LW" == Lars Wendler writes:
LW> openssh upstream even raised the idea to simply focus crypto support in
LW> their software on libressl
Debian plans on using libressl for openssh (statically, I presume), once
openssl-1.0 is removed from their
Bug 626298 should block 561854 (the LibreSSL tracker).
Could someone with the required perms mark it so?
Thanks,
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ose of us who prefer only ever halving to edit fstab(5).
Remote filesystems might be differnt, but for local filesystems the
status quo is better.
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rather than the ususal top-down approach.
AIUI, the current release should work.
If you see that issue with 2.72 or later, they'd like to hear about it.
Their list is: dnsmasq-disc...@lists.thekelleys.org.uk
-JimC
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file-0.52.tar.gz
fetches fine.
Just curious.
-JimC
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> "PR" == Pacho Ramos writes:
PR> # Pacho Ramos (22 Mar 2015)
PR> # Cannot be fetched, also has licensing issues (#531270).
PR> # Removal in a month.
PR> www-servers/publicfile
Sine when ca
use sse4.1 and sse4.2, too, for some stuff.
(Obviously . xor _ in the ebuilds (a/o eclasses?) would be nice.)
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really do.
MG> In any case, we would likely strip the history anyway to get a small
MG> repo to work with.
+1 on that. The cvs repo can be converted to an historical git repo on
a slower timeframe, and remain available as cvs until then.
That old-vs-fresh concept worked fine for other
>>>>> "AX" == Alex Xu writes:
AX> Please don't crosspost followup messages, especially to the same mailing
AX> list twice.
Ick. I didn't notice the cc details when I replied. ☹
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mp.
And for a GNU package at that.
-JimC
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blish sshfp for all four keys when the new host
takes over.
Thanks!
-JimC
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signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
remain longer.
It seems, even though I only mentioned it in an aside, I could have
thought of a better example.
-JimC
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>>>>> "MG" == Michał Górny writes:
MG> Dnia 2014-06-30, o godz. 17:40:16
MG> James Cloos napisał(a):
>> So it should be fine to unmask 5.3 and slowly update reverse
>> dependencies to depend on 5.3 instead of whichever 4.x they
>> currently dem
ons. But upgrading needs to be done with care.
So it should be fine to unmask 5.3 and slowly update reverse
dependencies to depend on 5.3 instead of whichever 4.x they currently
demand.
Unmasking the earlier 5.x releases seems unnecessary, though.
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dentically named file in
D> /etc/udev/rules.d, either rename it accordingly or see the wiki link[1]
D> below for other options.
+1 on that. The proposed rewrite does a much better job of explaining
why anyone should care about the change.
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ay that you
JAD> can a text-based patch.
That's not true for xbm and xpm files; those are valid C programs and
are completely readable. And editable.
The gentoo.logo file from app-misc/linux-logo is also easily read and edited.
Diff(5)s also work well, so their cvs and git history is usable.
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t the same
submodule, and/or if a package exists for it in its own right, will
the same store clone be used for all of them? Including when some use
git://, others https://, et al?
-JimC
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EGORY}" in
dev-perl|perl-core) mytargets="install" ;;
*) mytargets="install" ;;
esac
fi
Did the case block originally have different results for different CATEGORYs?
Otherwise it looks good.
't
TW> seem like a good thing to break its current API and documentation as
TW> well as what actually works in the Portage tree.
+1 on all of that. git-3 is a better name than using -r1.
And leave git-2 there for at /least/ a year. There are a LOT of out of
tree git-2 users.
-JimC
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r1 has several regressions from cups-1.5
A couple of them which involve postscript documents and/or postscript
printers have been fixed in bzr and should be part of the next release.
I'm also working on additional improvements I hope to see in the next
release of the filters.
-JimC
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an X-Font-Server which uses
libfontconfig to find fonts, generates and keeps a cache of fc-pattern
to/from xlfd mappings, and serves said fonts to X servers.
-JimC
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pp which edits fstab(5), it would not have
needed to ask for my sudo passwd to work.
And gnome seems to prefer fully to rewrite files in their own quirky
style. Rather than just making changes.
(Rewrites like that are why I tend to chattr+i a lot of files in /etc.)
-JimC
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matter how rare it is though. A general announcement won't
hurt anyone.
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it in fstab; it looks like it always did.
The backup of my (now dead) laptop also has such an entry. The rcs log
for that one shows that it got added in late '03, and not manually.
I imagine therefore that it is not all that uncommon.
-JimC
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>>>>> "RF" == Rich Freeman writes:
RF> Is this package working in the typical case? That is, when you aren't
RF> intentionally trying to buffer-overflow it or otherwise break it?
I haven't found an image file which causes it to crash.
-JimC
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nt packages can only harm the
community and is never welcome.
-JimC
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>>>>> "MC" == Markos Chandras writes:
MC> # Removal in 30 days
MC> app-text/cuneiform
That one should not go. There are not enough quality ocr engines
available, Gentoo needs to keep all of them.
And a couple of bugs is never a sufficient reason to kick a
^vdr /etc/passwd
vdr:x:113:1013:added by portage for gentoo-vdr-scripts:/var/vdr:/bin/bash
-JimC
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s rsa 3k for use with aes128/sha256, rsa 7k for aes192/sha384
and rsa 15k for aes256/sha512.
If 3k provides comparable security to aes128 and sha256, and one needs
to more than double the rsa key length to compare with aes192 and sha384,
there is no reason to bother with rsa 4k.
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t, but for now
they haven't done anything helpful here.
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Since I just sent a why to post a news item note, that exactly covers
things.
Thanks!
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d64/13.0/eapi 2013-01-20 06:31:02.0 -0500
@@ -1 +1 @@
-2
+5
actually *do* to one's system?
A useful news item would have explained what was changing, why it was
done, and what to expect once one makes the change.
-JimC
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sci-visualization/paraview
Or, more responsibly, the version in the sci overlay should move
to the main tree.
-JimC
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you get when you pass milliseconds to
AKH> usleep...)
AKH> So in this case the mask was quite adequate.
Works here. I tested before posting.
-JimC
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en drop the schoolkid nonsense to
join the club.
-JimC
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mes-arcade/xboing
One should just let it be.
-JimC
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X or wl.
Also, I suspect the things dri brings in (or that one would presume dri
to bring in) are needed for gpGPU and the like.
-JimC
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rld is much more than gnome+kde.
-JimC
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categories had a dash
made things easier and faster.
Its been way too many years to change that now.
Much better to standardize it as m/[a-z0-9]+-[a-z0-9]+/.
-JimC
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G> x11-libs/qt-core will be moved to qt/core, and so on.
Please don't.
Every current category matches /^[a-z]+-[a-z]+$/. With the possible
exception of adding moving from [a-z]+ to [a-z0-9]+, that shoud remain.
Only non-category directories under /usr/portage should lack a hyphen.
-JimC
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>>>>> "CM" == Ciaran McCreesh writes:
CM> Which is a good thing, since it will force people to stop making
CM> incorrect assumptions.
No, its a bad thing because it makes it harder to grep out the non
category dirs.
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ystems one would
require the archaic compiler.
In short, as long as it doesn't require *too* much effort, old versions
of slotted packages shouldn't be dropped *only* because they are old.
-JimC
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h.
> x11-misc/bbdate
> x11-misc/bbweather
> x11-misc/bbsload
So, you advocate removing x11 client packages because, oooh, they
require *server-side fonts*. AGH!
Seriously, it is "bug"-reports 395353 and 402713 which are flawed, not
the packages. And 429234, requesting st
9 for me, upon which boost
depends, I found that 1.48 and 1.49 build with gcc 4.7.2; but none
of the earlier versions did.
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>>>>> "CM" == Ciaran McCreesh writes:
CM> This doesn't work if we have, for example, foo:1 and foo:2 both using
CM> the same SCM repository, but different branches.
The subversion eclass already handles that; it stores in $distfiles/$P/$branch.
The cvs eclas
>>>>> "DEP" == Diego Elio Pettenò writes:
DEP> They _are_ deprecated after all.
>>
>> Where is that documented?
DEP> man inittab
Not here. (/usr/share/man/man5/inittab.5.bz2 from sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r3.)
-JimC
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>>>>> "DEP" == Diego Elio Pettenò writes:
DEP> They _are_ deprecated after all.
Where is that documented?
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hat I hadn't noticed that gentoo lacked power
lines in its inittab(5).
Please cover the set, not just powerfail.
-JimC
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since md5-cache was
added.
ZM> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410505
I've added a please re-open note to that bug.
Thanks for working on it.
-JimC
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still adds a significant
cost to an rsync.
It is important that md5-cache files which do not require change be left
alone.
Not everyone has gobs of network bandwidth available.
-JimC
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inux
git show 1193755ac632
So, Gentoo shouldn't prohibit merges. Instead, it should demand that
all merges be of signed tags.
The plan includes signed commits anyway, so signed tags for pulls will be
fully supported by any version of git which might be used.
-JimC
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.)
And the dev files get removed when the drive is unplugged.
(unplugged here means either the usb cable or the power cable.)
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h card readers.
If thumb drives specify it, then they lie.
The flag is read from the drive's metadata.
-JimC
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>>>>> "AR" == Alexandre Rostovtsev writes:
AR> www-servers/nginx:pcre-jit - Enable JIT for pcre
This one also should remain un-unified. There may be other, unrelated
jit options in the future, whether affecting nginx itself or potential
PDEPENDs or ???.
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WD> 0
Note that a 0 there does not imply that the device cannot hotplug.
My USB drive reports 0.
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>>>>> "MS" == Marc Schiffbauer writes:
MS> IIRC usr = unified system resources (not an abbrev. for "user")
Nope. It is in fact for user.
Before sysv created /home, bsd used /usr for user dirs.
/usr/bin et all came later.
-JimC
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1.
It would make a better default for x86/amd64 than grub1 or grub2.
-JimC
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glibc fraudulently defaults the latin, greek
and cyrillic locales to case-insensitive.
The real fix is to have root be C.UTF-8. Which differs from C only in
that the charset is utf-8.
-JimC
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As someone who leaves root w/o LANG, I would note that there are a few
packages which cannot build unless LANG is set to a UTF-8 locale.
What we really need is C.UTF-8 and/or POSIX.UTF-8, and to force *that*
in emerge(1), ebuild(1), etc.
-JimC
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he .so was
compiled with 4.5 and the .o files with 4.6.
Which looks like an ABI issue, yes?
Again, though, only for some libs. And I do not remember which.
-JimC
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utside of portage. I still run into compilation errors with C++ which
go away if I compile said code with 4.5.
GCC’s C++ abi is only *mostly* forwards compatible, not *entirely*.
-JimC
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ecame
mainstream and 64 bit dists hit the streets that old argument lost all
of its value.
Arguably, it should be lib64 pointing to lib, but lib pointing to lib64
works and can make some logic easier, so it should remain as is.
Please ignore the fhs nonsense and leave it as it is.
Thank you.
-JimC
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.
Git submodules fit the bill perfectly.
This would require re-doing the cvs→git conversion, but it’d be worth it.
-JimC
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few cases where it is not a benefit can add -fortran to their
/etc/make.conf or profile-specific make.defaults files.
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to put and look for lock files.
Got to run; can't contiue to write right now
-JimC
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ot a good idea to make /var/lock
a symlink to /run/lock.
(And I don't just mean .keep files.)
-JimC
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I hope
PC> you understand.
This isn't private information. Everyone who receives mail from these
lists can see what crypto gentoo's outgoing servers use when connecting
to one's MXs.
-JimC
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Is there any specific reason why smtp.gentoo and pigeon.gentoo use
camellia for their outbound smtp starttls connections?
Not complaining or anything. Just curious.
-JimC
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>>>>> "TC" == Tomáš Chvátal writes:
TC> No need to escape it if it is in "". it is parsed as the char itself
TC> like this.
The escaping is for grep(1), not for sh(1).
-JimC
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delete the other branches at all? I'd rather have a
complete clone. Just the checkout ought to be enough.
Otherwise, cool.
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nce it makes it clear that the foo is a package.
-JimC
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>>>>> "DB" == Donnie Berkholz writes:
JC> Or better yet, git clone.
DB> This could work well with --shared; even worked for me on separate
DB> partitions.
Yes, I did mean »git clone -l -s«.
-JimC
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makes heavy use of live ebuilds, someone who will be
directly and severely affected by such a change, I have to beg you
to keep the current logic for submodule-less repos.
P.S. The kind of clone used in distdir is irrelevant to the
fact that git-clone should be used to populate $S.
-JimC
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best when they know that they are building
from vcs.
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as ~160 MB.
MG> For comparison, Firefox weighs in at about 50 MB.
-JimC
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ity
PH> update.
And every one of those chromium releases is another 200 Meg download.
Or is that yet another?
Still yet another?
-JimC (who still prefers the src)
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ill do its job, without any
UM> additional patch.
I should've remembered that when I replied. [SIGH]
And it looks like pdfcairo alread is sufficiently compatible with pdf.
So no objections here to the change you already pushed. ☺
-JimC
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postscript and svg.)
That is just how gnuplot draws.
I’d still keep the pdf USE flag with its current meaning; users may have
existing gnuplot scripts which use gnuplot’s pdf terminal and/or apps
which generate such scripts. Unless, of course, a patch is added which
makes «set term pdf» an alias fo
s Intel engineers
who contributed it for sse3, showing that it was inedeed faster on their
chips to start at the high point and decrement the counter rather than
starting at the low point and incrementing.
The discussion in their lists does a better job of documenting the issue.
-JimC
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emacs-overlay%2Feclass%2Fbzr.eclass>
That looks perfect.
Thanks!
-JimC
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old repos rather than rm(1)ing
them; bandwidth is often more of a premium than storage and a manual
cleanup is better than a magic behind-the-back permanent deletion. This
follows the same principles as portage does in $DISTFILES.
Thank you.
-JimC
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ng/.
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; diff -uNr a/foo b/foo
generates a patch with relative paths.
The warning needs to be more specific lest it cause undue confusion and
support load.
-JimC
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sign Changelog entries.
RHJ> We wanted commit-signing with the git migration...
Good choice.
-JimC
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t only
fails that one package and anything in the current set which depends
on that version of the failed package. Don't stop everything just
because /one/ package has a problem.
And think about a way to sign Changelog entries.
-JimC
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