Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations
Hi, On 2013-02-10 22:06, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2013, 14:34:14 schrieb Markos Chandras: new profiles? As a Gentoo user who just got a giant red warning from portage that his active profile was deprecated, I feel like many people are going to be confused about this. Obviously a news item should precede any deprecation of stable profiles. I think it is too late now. The big red warning is already there. To be honest I did not really see the necessity since the big red warning exactly tells you what to do (and even which profile to pick, which would be more complicated in a news item). Then again, that's a matter of personal preference, too. Actually, if you could add a note that before switching to the new profile, you should update portage if it's old, that would be even more user-friendly: I just saw the big red warning on a not-so-well-maintained Gentoo box today, switched to the new profile, and then portage would only do read-only operations. So I had to figure out how to change the profile back manually (because the old profile also isn't shown in eselect anymore), before I could update portage and then switch to the new profile again. Patrick.
Re: [gentoo-dev] emerge -C eselect-python disaster
Hi, (although this is no user support list...) On 2010-01-25 11:02 UTC Dale wrote: So there is already a option that is the reverse of -n ? See `man emerge`: --depclean (-c) [...] Depclean serves as a dependency aware version of --unmerge. When given one or more atoms, it will unmerge matched packages that have no reverse dependencies. Use --depclean together with --verbose to show reverse dependencies. Patrick. -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Remove cups from default profile to solve circular deps
Hi, On 2010-03-05 00:00 UTC Dale wrote: chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On 5 March 2010 00:27, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: But this issue can be discussed separately from whether cups should be enabled in profiles. Actually, it is the problem. You want to remove cups to solve the problem of circular dependencies. What I wrote was: What it fixes is (1) the circular dependency that people run into on a fresh install and the default desktop profile, and (2) the default dependency on cups that many users do not need. But if you choose to ignore what I actually write, then I'd better stop responding. Good night, You notice what I wrote? If I had to install Gentoo again, I would copy or set my USE flags first then install. If I do that right after unpacking the tarball, which is how it should be done, then you have fixed nothing. The problem you claim to have fixed is not fixed at all. Maybe it is not me that should stop responding? Obviously, users who re-install Gentoo the way you do will have less difficulties resolving a circular dependency than those who are just following the guide and getting their first Gentoo experience. Patrick. -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] webapp-config needs a new maintainer
Hi, On 2010-03-10 11:30, Sebastian Pipping wrote: There are quite a few bugs open for it plus the latest version (1.50.18) is not even in Gentoo but on SourceForge only. Its upstream Gunnar left Gentoo due to lack of time recently. As I got project admin rights for layman from Gunnar before I know that a similar thing should be theoretical possible for you and webapp-config, too. So your first task would be a proper bump and a maybe few bug fixes after: http://sourceforge.net/projects/webapp-config/files/ https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=webapp-config I know there's people using this tool. If you use it this is your chance to ensure it keeps in good shape. Being proxied or mentored initially should also work in case you want that. I'm using webapp-config on multiple servers, and I think it's an important part of Gentoo, as it provides a sane way to keep track of web applications. I see a problem though: the ebuilds of popular webapps like MediaWiki or Wordpress seem to be in bad shape / unmaintained, which in term makes this tool much less useful. Maybe that is caused by the fact, that webapp-config has bugs? Chicken/Egg problem? So, I wish there could be more people taking care of timely version bumps etc. for webapps, since it is essential that webapps are always kept up-to-date, most of them being written in PHP, buggy, exposed to the net and all. Anyway, I can imagine working on webapp-config, and becoming a Gentoo package maintainer. My time is a little limited though (day job + part time job + family), so don't expect too much. If there is someone with more time on his/her hands, please go for it. Patrick. -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project
Hi, On 2010-04-08 19:51 UTC Ryan Hill wrote: On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:12:49 +0200 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: After the mostly positive feedback on the recent wiki discussion, we have now gone ahead, formed a preliminary team consisting of both users and developers, and put up a project page [1]. All constructive feedback on this new project is welcome. why are we setting up a user wiki when a very popular one already exists? it seems like a complete duplication of effort. i'm not saying don't do it, i'm just baffled why we would. Well, one reason could be, that the unofficial one lost its whole database once, and there were other multiple multi-day outages in the past. I expect an official Wiki to have a reasonable availability and not losing most of the content, breaking links all over the net for months. Patrick. -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
Hi William, On 2010-04-10 17:18 UTC William Hubbs wrote: Is there a better system? The ideal captcha would not be visual at all. For example, on another site I am involved with, which is not quite online yet, we are talking about implementing tseveral levels of captcha such as: - a math captcha (you will be asked to solve a simple math problem) - a word captcha (fill in the missing letters of a word) - a phrase captcha (complete the phrase) Could something like one or more of these be possible? For MediaWiki, a math captcha would be easy to get in place: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit I don't know how effective that really simple captcha is, but I know a few not-so-large Wikis that use it, and don't have a spam problem. Also, I'm sure it would be easy to modify the source to add some more tricks, once the first spam bots got past. Patrick. -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] 'State of Gentoo' BoF session, Linux Symposium 2010.
Hi, On 2010-07-09 20:59 UTC Philip Webb wrote: 100709 Robin H. Johnson wrote: I'm running a BoF session during Linux Symposium 2010 in Ottawa next week, entitled 'State of Gentoo'. http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2010/view_abstract.php?content_key=75 Questions about progress on specific topics are warmly welcomed. [...] There is still a serious misperception out there among non-users that Gentoo is about performance. This needs to be corrected: I believe we all use it for the choice control it offers. Perhaps there's also a disadvantage in that Gentoo doesn't receive the commercial publicity behind Ubuntu, Fedora Suse, nor does it have the ancient history of Slackware Debian. I continue to be as happy a user as I have always been since 2003 . Exactly my thoughts. *signed* Patrick. -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Message could not be delivered
On 2010-10-29 18:05 UTC cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: [garbage, malware attached] Wow, that's a first, I think ;) Mydoom worm sent to the gentoo-dev list. -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Corentin, On 2011-05-05 23:54, Corentin Chary wrote: New dynamic charts: - http://euscan.iksaif.net/maintainers/2/charts/versions-weekly.png - http://euscan.iksaif.net/categories/app-accessibility/charts/packages-weekly.png - http://euscan.iksaif.net/categories/app-accessibility/charts/packages-weekly-small.png Feel free to use them in a plasma-applet, or whatever you want ! I just wanted to thank you for your work on euscan, it's a great tool. Patrick. - -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3DWToACgkQyYHmhobjRtRe9gCgivcJc0Ljyzh+TaYsmo6Pbguv CsAAoL3ekUpjdMyHtwVWyV8Jsis+CEBL =61hV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoostats, SoC 2011
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Hi,
On 2011-08-25 20:43, Markos Chandras wrote:
On 25/08/2011 11:42 ??, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 08/24/2011 01:48 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote:
[...] If you sneakily add something to cron.daily by default you can
get pretty nice coverage. But I guess anyone trying that in
Gentooland will meet some rather unpleasant resistance :)
emerge always asks me after a world update whether I want to auto
clean packages with a yes/no prompt. I wouldn't be bad if once a
month or whatever it would ask me whether I want to upload my stats.
Gentoostats should probably become a runtime dep of Portage itself by
default, but not used automatically.
I like your idea and people seem to like making things complicated.
Simple solution:
opt-in
How: Display a warning after an emerge -u{DNav} world. Let user disable
this warning by using a special variable in make.conf
STATS_ENABLE=no.
By default, this variable will be yes on base/ profiles
That sounds perfect to me.
The prompt should offer three options:
[s]end the data directly
s[h]ow me the data*
s[k]ip
You can disable this prompt by having either 'SEND_STATS=yes' (to always
send) or 'SEND_STATS=no (to never send) in your /etc/make.conf.
*) And in the next step, after showing the data set(s): Send? [y/n]
(why do all those words have to start with an 's'??)
Cheers,
Patrick.
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