thing. In any event, still
beats the $#^%@ out of RPMs!
Good luck.
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. But that it was your time to
eject does not imply there's any trouble here.
Good luck with your Source Mage. For me, getting involved with a new beta
project does not fit in with day to day requirements of a stable, running
system.
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and Jerry's or Gateway. Cows are cool.
I agree. Bring him back.
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 21:51:21 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sun, 07 May 2006 16:08:52 -0400 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| In fact, the only REALLY negative thing that
| happened was when Ciaran ripped me a new a---hole because he objected
| to the line spacing I used in a proposed ebuild
know Slackware has and some other distros to ensure
the authenticity of their files)?
TIA
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On Sat, 20 May 2006 15:37:54 +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
On 20/05/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PMFJI, but as a user, not a security expert, I had a few thoughts that I'd
like to throw in. Thanks to Patrick, he helped me to drill down some of
the ideas and I present them
.
I've made my point. Any other writings by me on this subject would be
repetitive. Flame me if you feel like it, but please don't forget to
ignore facts along the way.
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, hopefully, as the overlay project moves forward, it will help take
some of the heat off bugzilla and allow for the offering of more ebuilds
to userland.
JM2C
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.
The idea isn't so bad, but the benefits definitely do not outweigh the
negatives.
I did not read anything that implied o.g.o would bypass anything other
than a lengthy wait in bugzilla land. Other distros have their
experimental/testing branches, why can't gentoo?
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On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:09:04 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 16:23 -0400, Peter wrote:
I did not read anything that implied o.g.o would bypass anything other
than a lengthy wait in bugzilla land. Other distros have their
experimental/testing branches, why can't gentoo
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:08:01 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 06:31:43PM -0400, Peter wrote:
And, for me again as a user, using a gentoo-hosted overlay is
preferable to a third party repository. This is a personal bias on my
part -- and maybe unwarranted
I think it is a bit tight.
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All of a sudden, emerge -uD --newuse world is showing dozens of ebuild
that are replaced due to removed use flags. Did someone change the default
use flags? Upgraded yesterday to portage 2.1.
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:57:00 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Monday 12 June 2006 12:42, Peter wrote:
All of a sudden, emerge -uD --newuse world is showing dozens of ebuild
that are replaced due to removed use flags. Did someone change the
default use flags? Upgraded yesterday to portage
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:23:42 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 06:42 -0400, Peter wrote:
All of a sudden, emerge -uD --newuse world is showing dozens of ebuild
that are replaced due to removed use flags. Did someone change the
default use flags? Upgraded yesterday
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:08:03 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Monday 12 June 2006 12:57, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Monday 12 June 2006 12:42, Peter wrote:
All of a sudden, emerge -uD --newuse world is showing dozens of ebuild
that are replaced due to removed use flags. Did someone
being to simplistic or naive?
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:54:47 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 01:29:55PM -0400, Peter wrote: [snip]
This kernel source will not cause Armageddon to arrive, cause smoke to
issue from your power supply, nor interfere with other ebuilds.
That's funny. Did you just
in default-linux is now empty. The one in base gives
you nothing to compare it against. Was there another file you meant?
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:47:42 +, Duncan wrote:
Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 14
Jun 2006 11:29:06 -0400:
The use.default file in default-linux is now empty. The one in base
gives you nothing to compare it against. Was there another file you
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 04:29:44 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 16:17, Peter wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:17:10 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| Care to elaborate? The wise, all-knowing Zen argument isn't |
particularly helpful
It's perfect proof
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:58:44 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Thursday 15 June 2006 05:39, Peter wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 04:29:44 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
being able to download patchsets from the internet, touchup a few
lines so they apply without rejects, and releasing the result
. Otherwise, every
tom, dick, and harry with an opinion is going to chime in and say Oh no,
you can't do that.
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:
months of silence in the many cases unlike yours are rude and inexcusable.
Cheers
Andrew
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that.
you _can't_ compare gentoo with a business. simple as that arf, why did
i even start...
We can disagree on that point. All distros are businesses. Users are
customers. No users, no distro.
/me closes dev mailbox for another month
Well, there is a lot of clutter sometimes :)
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:55:14 -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 12:29 +, Peter wrote:
We can disagree on that point. All distros are businesses. Users are
customers. No users, no distro.
That is not strictly true. You can have a distro without users --
nobody
was condescending and
offensive.
You, as leaders, have to really think through what your intentions are and
how you are going to deal with people and factions with various
objectives. Telling people they are obviously inflammatory is really not a
strong way to begin.
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:06:16 -0400, Mike Kelly wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:43:16 + (UTC)
Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a laugh! Problem is that no devs seem to get approved in a
timely fashion. And, any potential devs would be rather turned off by
the goings on here. You guys
has fun with his pomeranians dogs, going for walks and the like.
Poms in that climate? Tough little ones!
So please welcome Jim as a new fellow slave^Hdev among us!
Mazel Tov, Jim! I'm sure Sergey is smiling in his retirement now :)
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about the upstream driver. If the
driver does not work, then see the nVidia news forum.
We hope you will find this approach a more streamlined and
easy implementation for nVidia.
Thanks for your participation and feedback.
Peter Hyman on behalf of the nVidia devs.
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:47:40 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 12:41:45PM -0500, Peter wrote:
We are in the process of developing and testing
a unified nVidia driver ebuild. When implemented,
it will replace the nvidia-kernel, nvidia-glx, and
nvidia-settings ebuilds
, please post these comments to the bug report.
We hope you will find this approach a more streamlined and easy
implementation for nVidia.
I don't particularly see how it is easier.
But many do. This mirrors the approach nvidia takes.
Thanks for your participation and feedback.
Peter
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:13:45 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
Hi Peter,
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 14:05 -0500, Peter wrote:
in any case. By unifying the ebuilds, we are merely duplicating what
nvidia provides in its install packages. We're not doing anything they
aren't.
Who is we please
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 03:16:53 -0600, Dale wrote:
Niklas Bolander wrote:
snip...
I have to agree. Do it sort of like KDE, with kde, kde-meta or as
seperate packages. Have it so you can pull in all three in one emerge
command but have the option to do it seperately as well. I have only
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:09:36 +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
On Saturday 24 December 2005 12:34, Peter wrote:
THAT is a very reasonable comment!
Not at all. Meta ebuilds are a provisional and fugly workaround as long as
we have to wait for proper sets and only to be used for a larger set
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:09:01 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
snip...
nVidia upstream combines all the products together
in their .run files. There is minimal time difference between having the
entire suite installed versus each one individually.
Well depends how you see it.
If you
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:50:16 +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 09:49:04PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
I thought that we (gentoo devs) were trying to split the modules from
ebuilds,
so that people don't need to waste time with userland when rebuilding
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:06:43 +0100, Pawe Madej wrote:
In my opinion if you want to build monolitic ebuild in system like
gentoo where everything is going to be modular you should try some local
USE flags for example monolitic to install all the stuff you are puting
into it and of cours flags
seem, Chris. =)
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Computational Linguistics at the
University of Saarland (Germany). My hobbies are Psychology, japanese
culture, martial arts (like Iaido), beer and of course Gentoo ;)
Welcome to the team, Boris! :-]
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Another Southern Californian, it would seem. Excellent. If you're ever
in the Anaheim/Orange County Area give me a jingle. We could go for some
Starbucks and head to Fry's or something. :P
Welcome aboard, Josh!
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Awesome! Welcome aboard, Christel! :-)
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, Assistance forums, and bugs.g.o). It's good idea to
save searches (like save searches in bugzilla). BTW. There were already
suggestions with working implementations:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/33296
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with a proper upstream.
My $0.02...
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George Prowse wrote:
I forgot to say that you could call your daughter Jennifer because you
could name her Jen two.
George
...and a rimshot is heard fading in the distance.
Congrats, Paul! ^_^
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Welcome, Yuval! :D
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Bryan Østergaard wrote:
Joshua Ross (joslway) joined the Gentoo/PPC64 team a couple weeks ago.
He'll be helping with release engineering among other things.
[...]
Welcome aboard, Joshua! :D
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Sven Vermeulen wrote:
[...]
You get a good 'old welcome from me, Wolf. Welcome.
From me as well. Welcome aboard, Wolf! :D
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My Blog
by the
Open Source Initiative (OSI).
Isn't this one of the driving reasons why our forums run phpBB instead
of something like vBulletin, for example? :)
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/contract.xml
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to mention that it'd still be a bad idea to do so. :P)
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the user and
developer camps.
Regards.
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Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
I of course am thrilled, not only did we (re-)gain another UK based dev,
but a UK based dev with a great taste in music, a sick and twisted mind
and the ability to put up with me singing. Welcome back, Elfyn!
Awesome. Welcome aboard, Elfyn!
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something?
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:39:46 -0700 Peter Gordon
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| If they were so extremely important then they would not be optional,
| and hence not even be USE flags at all, no? Or am I missing something?
You're missing something. Vim used to have
Shyam Mani wrote:
[...]
So, throw up the usual parties, say hello when you meet him and make him
feel at home :)
So it's official now? Yay! Welcome aboard, Jorge! :D
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Monday 28 August 2006 14:50, Tuan Van wrote:
where do I get I voted sticker?
http://www.cafepress.com/spankgentoo.13531918
-mike
BWHAHAHAHAHAHWHHWAHHAHHAHA
That's so great! :D
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as Debian. We don't do that, so there is no issue for us[1]. See
my other response in this thread for details.
[1] As long as we take the binary off the live cd and the install image.
Thanks for the clarification, Greg. :)
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Welcome, Vlastimil! :)
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valid (though
amusing) Free software license, according to an old post [1] on the debian-legal
list.
Thus, I see no reason for no qualms against its terms.
[]1 http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/09/msg00032.html
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games-arcade/tuxracer - the last open source version of the game
games-arcade/tuxracer-demo - the demo for the closed-source version
Good riddance, I say. ppracer for the win! :)
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//Peter
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doesn't seem to want to change this, so I guess that this improvement
is impossible, if he is the ultimate decision maker for ruby in Gentoo,
but I'm not sure about any of that - please do clarify.
Thanks!
//Peter
Peter Stuge wrote:
Thinking out loud another round: _TARGETS is an interface by Gentoo,
so maybe it would not be such a bad idea to use existing Gentoo
identifiers there, ie. (a subset of?) PMS version specifications.
Including the package name. This would also make the UX change
smaller
already complain about both
that, and about the need for constant attention to config changes
I would never update a package unless I actually wanted to update it.
//Peter
=-server is a great way to change the ebuild for the
better. I don't care at all about a news item. They are generally
only annoying me. :)
//Peter
.
//Peter
.
Of course it might be nice to also add some nicer error messages to
the init script. And probably there should be some pkg_postinst (or?)
einfo about how cman requires certain things enabled in the kernel.
There are several of those in the tree to look at for inspiration.
//Peter
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to everyone who helps make Gentoo better every day!
//Peter
centralized bug-tracking filing system than to have to organize them
in email, and git integration is not something I see changing this.
Have you tried gerrit? It is really a leap ahead.
//Peter
that existing tested
trivial bug fixes don't make it to the tree.
//Peter
target in a nice way, and
file a bug with updated ebuilds for catalyst which add the dependency.
Many thanks!
//Peter
to the rest of the tree?
If not, I can't think of a reason to remove them.
//Peter
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catalyst for livecds.)
//Peter
should have them ironed out shortly.
Not yet something I care about. (That's fine.)
I hope that eudev wants to do the respectable thing for any fork, ie.
work hard to minimize the amount of wasted effort in both projects by
sharing much code and bugfixes.
//Peter
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is a useful tool for developers sometimes.
It's not mandatory by any means, and sometimes it's just a huge time
sink, and a little bit like filing bugs it isn't mandatory, but it
*can* be useful.
//Peter
it.
Desinformation is IMO always worse than no information.
//Peter
Peter Stuge wrote:
I think the bar for keeping access should be kept low - they
shouldn't be forced to go find some trivial change to make just
to get their name in the logs.
When I first started looking into becoming a Gentoo developer I got a
very strong and very clear impression
.
//Peter
to assume that
documentation is correct. :)
//Peter
Michael Hampicke wrote:
can binpackages easily be regenerated locally if their ebuilds are
not in portage anymore?
If the package is still installed it is very easy with quickpkg.
//Peter
is only slightly less convenient with CVS than with git.
I really recommend spending some time on learning Gerrit if you
haven't used it already.
//Peter
//Peter
, if
that makes the most sense at a later time.
//Peter
PS. I for one would actually prefer LILO to be the Gentoo default. :)
*
phases twice.
Certainly.
//Peter
with the readers. This assumes
that there is a convenient way to maintain such a dialogue...
//Peter
of that the
users will need to understand what is actually going on.
//Peter
successful when you own your problems.
//Peter
William Hubbs wrote:
I have a bug opened with the docs team and release engineering
to discuss whether we want the new names for new installs.
IMO yes we do.
What's that bug - or what is the good way to thumbs up/down?
//Peter
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Rich Freeman wrote:
Anybody who runs debian knows that the only two commands you really
need to know are apt-get --update and apt-get --upgrade. We really
need to keep things just that simple.
We're halfway there;
emerge --sync
So how about adding:
emerge --upgrade
?
//Peter
Rich Freeman wrote:
Not that anybody is taking requests, but it would be really handy
if serial ports were deterministically labeled.
Does /dev/serial/* solve the problem?
//Peter
.
//Peter
have a bunch of low-numbered rules that set/append variables like
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTIONS, and then a bunch of higher-numbered rules that
actually run commands. Then if you install eix or layman they could
stick a hook in there to trigger their own respective updates.
I like it.
//Peter
udev rules.
//Peter
.)
//Peter
incompetent email
as on gentoo-dev. It is seriously the worst bunch of lazy-ass email
authors that I have ever seen. Sad face.
That is of course only *my* opinion.
//Peter
random.
I haven't yet experimented with creating my own profiles. I might
still.
Ben, binary distributions like debian without cups? Forget about it.
They can't manage two differently compiled binary packages of e.g.
samba, so guess if they will have a samba without printing support? ;)
//Peter
machine code because of whatever patches.
//Peter
[1] http://review.coreboot.org/gitweb?p=coreboot.git;a=tree;f=util/crossgcc
not a dev so can not do anything
about it.
//Peter
be used for arbitrarily complex
configurations too.
//Peter
of another distribution which shall
remain unnamed. I found that email in a pastebin a few days later.)
It is long since clear to me that I have much too high expectations
on people.
But are you *REALLY* not able to do *any* better than default will
be what major distros use ?
Seriously?
//Peter
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