Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing a blocker from a stable package

2014-10-13 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 14:02:55 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > On 10/13/14 12:58, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > I've got two obsolete packages masked currently: app-text/unix2dos > > and app-doc/djbdns-man. Both of them block other stable packages, > > app-text/dos2unix and net-dns/djbdns respecti

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] fix java-utils-2 eclass to only use DESTTREE during src_install

2014-04-11 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 15:31:56 -0700 Tim Harder wrote: > Currently the java-utils-2 eclass refers to $DESTTREE in the > java-pkg_init_paths_ function that gets run during pkg_setup (via the > java-pkg-2 eclass that calls java-pkg_init). The java-pkg_init_paths_ > function also gets called again for

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPAND flag for www-servers/monkeyd

2013-05-30 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 28 May 2013 17:15:40 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 09:07:37PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > For the others, how large is the benefit of having them switchable? > > At least some of them look like something that wouldn't hurt people > > if it was always-built. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-13 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Mon, 13 May 2013 09:07:21 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 13/05/13 08:32, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > > Once I was asked if I could look into a package. I spent a day > > writing a couple of ebuilds including fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Mon, 13 May 2013 00:24:09 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 13/05/13 00:21, Peter Stuge wrote: > > There is no problem if github is only used for hosting, but if it > > is the primary point of contact, or if pull requests are accepted, > > then github is also writing to repositories, and me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-11 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Fri, 10 May 2013 06:09:32 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Ralph Sennhauser > wrote: > > The other thing is those unit files really should come from upstream > > and other distributions urge their developers to work with upstream > > [1]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH FIXED] Introduce edefault() as a friendly default sub-phase wrapper.

2013-05-11 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:51:39 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Michał Górny > wrote: > > Fixed naming the proper default sub-phase and declaring 'edefault' > > in python_prepare_all(). > > --- > > I think I prefer to explicitly name the function I want to call, so I >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Handling of tests (was: GCC USE flag changes)

2013-05-10 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Wed, 1 May 2013 19:18:52 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > On Wed, 1 May 2013 10:14:02 +0200 > Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:25:40 -0600 > > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > > I'm also going to rename the "test" flag to "regr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users

2013-05-10 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Wed, 8 May 2013 13:37:51 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > Bottom line is that none of this should really be inconveniencing > maintainers much - nobody is required to create unit files. However, > if a friendly user submits a bug with one attached, then the > maintainer should strongly consider ad

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes

2013-05-01 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Wed, 01 May 2013 01:29:05 -0400 "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" wrote: > Sadly it is so > bad that we have a FEATURES=test-fail-continue I can't really say > anything negative, that fact really says it all... My beef is not with the existence of this FEATURE but that it's enabled in the dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of tests (was: GCC USE flag changes)

2013-05-01 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:25:40 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > I'm also going to rename the "test" flag to "regression-test" or > something similar to get it out of FEATURES="test" control. The > testsuite is a huge time-suck and only useful to developers IMO > (always expected to fail and primarily mean

Re: [gentoo-dev] New license - adobe-pcfi

2013-03-10 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:10:38 + "Robin H. Johnson" wrote: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:01:55AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > CMaps for PDF CJK Fonts > > > --- > > > [...] > > > Permission is granted for redistribution of this file > > > provided this copyright

[gentoo-dev] New license - adobe-pcfi

2013-03-10 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
Hi, I'm querying this list out of the need of adding a new license[1] for adobe-pcfi[2]. Suggested name for the license is adobe-pcfi. An other possibility could be Adobe-PCFI to better match other Adobe* licenses. The license would be added to the MISC-FREE license group. If you have any doubt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we list sys-apps/sed in DEPEND

2013-02-19 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:10:33 +0100 Thomas Kahle wrote: > ... if it is used in the ebuild? > > It is a system package here on amd64, but is it everywhere? > > Cheers, > Thomas > Gnu sed version 4 is guaranteed by pms [1] [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~ulm/pms/5/pms.html#x1-12500011.3.1 signatur

Re: [gentoo-dev] January stabilization candidates

2013-02-10 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:22:13 +0100 ""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" wrote: > I can actually batch invalidate all of them. This will generate some > further bug spam (I apologize), but can save your time dealing with > the mess. Please let me know what's your preference. The URL field is likely not filled o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-06 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:16:32 +0800 Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 02/03/2013 09:45 PM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > > On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:46:52 +0100 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > >> dev-libs/boehm-gc > > > > Will take this one in a few days if no on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

2013-02-03 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:46:52 +0100 Pacho Ramos wrote: > dev-libs/boehm-gc Will take this one in a few days if no one else grabs it first. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add "test" to IUSE_IMPLICIT

2013-02-03 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 23:33:26 + "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > After years of "if use test ; then ..." just working when > FEATURES="test" is declared, it isn't working with EAPI5. I think we > could save some bytes and headaches if we just add "test" to > IUSE_IMPLICIT. > > Portage's emerge's "-

Re: readme.gentoo.eclass: use echo -e instead of plain echo (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] readme.gentoo.eclass: Add a DISABLE_AUTOFORMATTING variable=

2013-01-30 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:47:26 +0100 Pacho Ramos wrote: > Also, autoformatting will help to prevent every package setting > messages with different lines length (in some cases really long lines > that I finally reported some bugs in the past to get them fitting in > "standard" 80 characters per lin

Re: How a proper server profile should look like (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...)

2013-01-20 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:27:18 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 21 January 2013 12:16, Peter Stuge wrote: > > Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote: > >> I don't build server machines every day, others do and it would be > >> much appreciated if they could respond here. > > > > I build catalyst stage4s. An

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-06 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:34:59 -0600 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 10:26 Sat 22 Dec , Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Hello > > > > After seeing: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440214 > > > > Looking to a lot of its blockers shows that we are using "elog" > > messages for informing people ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Summary Council meeting: Tuesday 11 December 2012

2012-12-14 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:02:40 -0800 Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 02:05:27PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > On 14/12/12 01:28 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:43:41AM +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > >> Handling separate /usr support ==

Re: [gentoo-dev] blas .pc files (was RFC: new eclass - pkgconfig.eclass)

2012-11-29 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:09:34 +0100 justin wrote: > On 29/11/12 16:51, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: [...] > > ..ok remind me again what the .pc files provide you? this is so > > that you can have slotted blas providers and various packages can > > choose their preferred one instead of having to use th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-12 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:10:23 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > I'd argue against deprecating EAPI 0 any time soon though. Killing > EAPI 1 would be a better idea. I'm not for forced EAPI bumps anytime soon, but I expect EAPI 0 to be gone from tree in 3-5 years once the EAPI=0 requirement is lifted. Cur

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-12 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
From time to time the topic of deprecating EAPIs comes up and usually one suggestion is to keep 0 and start with converting EAPI 1 ebuilds. Then someone comes along and asks what is the point? Indeed, a fair question. The following tries to take a different approach to the topic. It's not all thou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] eutils: Warn on built_with_use usage

2012-09-17 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:58:02 -0700 "Gregory M. Turner" wrote: > > > My main focus here is switching built_with_use to actively nagging > > people to stop using it; this includes nagging EAPI0/1 users of it. > > Sans the implementation details, anyone got complaints with the > > intent? > > I h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] eutils: Warn on built_with_use usage

2012-09-16 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:45:22 +0200 Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > The aim would be to get rid of built_with_use not only in a distant > future. The corresponding bug [1] is from 2009 and can't be fixed ... without something like "increasing EAPI baseline".

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] eutils: Warn on built_with_use usage

2012-09-16 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:41:14 -0700 Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:10:47PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Sunday 16 September 2012 03:51:04 Brian Harring wrote: > > > + if ! has $EAPI 0 1 2 3; then > > > + eqawarn "built_with_use should not be used in > > > $EAPI; u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Fwd: Heads up for Qt5

2012-07-28 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:54:07 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > We do not have (nor want to support) a qt useflag. We have opted > for "qt4" and "qt5" useflags as the most straightforward and least > confusing. Indeed, the flag qt has almost disappeared from the tree. Good to know.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Fwd: Heads up for Qt5

2012-07-28 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:27:49 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 28 July 2012 13:59, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 28/07/12 08:22, Ben de Groot wrote: > >> > >> In preparation for that, we want to ask maintainers of all ebuilds > >> in the tree with dependencies on Qt4, to make sure that they have

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-07-24 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:29:14 +0300 Maxim Kammerer wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto > wrote: > > I propose to commit this news item in 2 or 3 days. Does anyone have > > any comments about it? > > Several comments: > > 1. Maybe note that /etc/portage/make.co

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: news item: changes to stages (make.conf and make.profile)

2012-07-24 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:48:52 + Sven Vermeulen wrote: > Can current users also already use the /etc/portage location? If so, > I can already update the docs now (since I'll need to describe both > of the locations for a while anyhow). I moved my make.conf to the new location about a year ago.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-23 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:29:44 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > >> # ones. This function is normally used internally in this eclass, > >> not by # l10n.eclass consumers. > >> l10n_get_locales() { > > > > I'd mark this function @INTERNAL then, at least until someone can > > presents a use case. > > If

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-20 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 23:37:32 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > I got a few more suggestions on IRC, and I have updated the eclass > accordingly. Please check the attached new version, also available at > https://gitorious.org/gentoo-qt/qt/blobs/master/eclass/l10n.eclass Pseudo inlining > # Add lingua

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: l10n.eclass

2012-07-19 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:45:39 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > Today I would like to present to you my proposal for a new eclass with > helper functions for treating localizations: l10n.eclass (see the > attached file or [1]). Its functionality can be used in other eclasses > (such as qt4-r2 and cmake-

Re: [gentoo-dev] DESCRIPTION in eclasses

2012-07-19 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:57:09 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Thanks, this explains why these DESCRIPTIONs are there. > > But history left aside, are they still useful today? If not, then they > should be removed. DESCRIPTION="Based on the ${ECLASS} eclass" is never a sufficient description for a

[gentoo-dev] Last rite: app-misc/jbidwatcher

2012-07-13 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
# Ralph Sennhauser (13 Jul 2012 # Mask for removal in 30 days. Fails to build with java 7 #421917. # QA issues #298701. Ceased to be useful long ago. #235124. Thanks # to Michael Weber #235124 for maintaining a # binary package in his overlay. (layman -a xmw) =app-misc/jbidwatcher-1

Re: [gentoo-dev] About trying to prevent downgrades of packages that cause system breakage

2012-07-07 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 13:01:52 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > On 06/30/2012 12:42 PM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > > That might be neat, but it would already help if you had to add > > --allow-downgrades or similar to emerge in case Portage wants to > > downgrade one or more

Re: [gentoo-dev] About trying to prevent downgrades of packages that cause system breakage

2012-06-30 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:33:35 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > Am Samstag 30 Juni 2012, 13:22:39 schrieb Zac Medico: > > On 06/30/2012 04:07 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > I would like to discuss a bit more issues like: > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423087 > > > > > > Even if the

Re: [gentoo-dev] ewarn and package upgrades

2012-06-23 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 07:40:02 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 7:32 AM, wrote: > > WARN: postinst > > Please rebuild both libxcb and xcb-util if you are upgrading from > > version 1.6 > > > > I've read enough warnings like this (many packages use them) that it > occurred to m

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Optional runtime dependencies via runtime-switchable USE flags

2012-06-20 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:24:33 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Can we all agree to just stop this and just restrict the arguing to > being between SDEPEND and DEPENDENCIES? Cheers. I clearly favour going with SDEPEND now as this fits better what people are used to and the move to DEPENDENCIES is al

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > On 06/07/2012 01:24 AM, Brian Harring wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 05:43:49PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 06/06/2012 12:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200 > >>> Pacho Ramos wrote: > Well, I

[gentoo-dev] [java-utils-2.eclass] - removal of java-pkg_ensure-test and java-pkg_ensure-gcj

2012-06-04 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
Both java-pkg_ensure-test and java-pkg_ensure-gcj will be removed from java-utils-2.eclass after the 4 of July 2012. See attached patch. java-pkg_ensure-test: [1] Was used to enforce USE=test if FEATURES=test. For quite some time this is handled by package managers. Relies on the env var FEATURES

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Enable FEATURES="userpriv usersandbox" by default?

2012-05-29 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 29 May 2012 18:27:51 +0200 hasufell wrote: > Well then let my clarify: I'm against too many pre-set (meaning > "activated") features/useflags. Think of it as nouserpriv feature. ;) Either way, to disable userpriv is kind of working against QA as a package really should be build-able as n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'. Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please. Also, there still should be a bug at b.g.o and git format-patch works just fine for that. Maybe it's only github now but how many pla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-11 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:04 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:04:22PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > New udev and separate /usr partition > > > > > > Decide on whether a se

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds

2012-03-18 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 21:41:02 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Hi all, > > The way how we currently specify the EAPI in ebuilds has some > problems. For example, there is no sane way to allow usage of features > of a new bash version in a new EAPI. So we are currently stuck with > bash 3.2. Also chan

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: dev-java/sun-j2ee

2012-01-27 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/glibc: glibc-2.14.1-r2.ebuild glibc-2.12.2.ebuild glibc-9999.ebuild glibc-2.15.ebuild glibc-2.10.1-r1.ebuild glibc-2.14.1-r1.ebuild

2012-01-20 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:49:07 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > Zac Medico posted on Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:39:12 -0800 as excerpted: > > > >> Maybe it would be enough to add a suggestion about --exclude in the > >> --newuse section

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr

2012-01-12 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:05:47 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: [snip] > > You should consider taking like 1 or 2 hours of your precious time to > read about the use and meaning of various directories in the > filesystem. > The FHS gives different meaning to directories than the systemd folks like it t

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites of dev-java/jrockit-jdk-bin

2012-01-04 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
# Ralph Sennhauser (04 Jan 2012) # Outdated Java version, fails to fetch, no upstream. #228929 # Removal in 30 days. dev-java/jrockit-jdk-bin