me at koon (at) thyone
(dot) net.
Infra/devrel should probably let a few days pass (let's say the end of
the month) before killing everything koon-related, since I may have to
pass some things to my successors in Security or GNAP.
*plop*
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Lance Albertson wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:42:48 -0500 Lance Albertson
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> | I'm afraid those days are in the past unless some kind of fork happens
>> | where the folks who think we need a leader go their way and the folks
>> | who prefer
Wernfried Haas wrote:
> Could you (or someone else) send out the agenda and a second reminder
> a short while (e.g. 1-2 days) before the actual meeting. I'd very much
> appreciate that, and i guess others may too.
The Council will meet on Thursday, August 17, 1900 UTC.
AFAICT agenda is at the mome
Olivier Crete wrote:
> I volunteer (again).. What's the status on the search for voting
> software ?
We follow two trails : fixing countify or find something else. I'll have
a look at countify, but more monkey eyeballs can't hurt.
We didn't find a good alternative yet, so you can also help in th
foser wrote:
> I checked back on the initial announcement, where it Sunrise was made
> public as an official Gentoo project without any prior discussion. The
> announcement actually stated 'This is an announcement - No flamewars
> allowed'. I guess the creators were already aware of the feelings o
Brian Harring wrote:
> What the hell do you think the tree is? It's a bunch of arbitrary
> packages maintained loosely by subgroups of people; you're stating
> that sunrise is too loose yet gentoo-x86 is fundamentally no
> different.
>
> Sunrise is pretty much the same damn thing.
Or maybe h
everywhere and you can start
making up your minds.
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Errata for candidates list :
robbat2 self-nominated (so he probably also accepted)
UberLord accepted his nomination
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We're nearing the end of the nomination period.
So far (if we are to trust
http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/council-2006-nominees.xml) the following
developers accepted their nomination :
dostrow
Flameeyes
KingTaco
kloeri
Kugelfang
lu_zero
nattfodd
patrick
pauldv
Pylon
spb
vapier
wolf31o2
Those wer
Mike Frysinger wrote:
> i guess i'll start off some mass nominations of random people off the top of
> my head who i think would do a good job ... there's a bunch more people i
> think would do a good job, but i'm going to cut my list short as it's already
> ridiculously long ...
>
> from curr
If we took half the time we spend to shoot down the rare things that are
getting done here to actually push some real improvement, Gentoo would
probably still be the most innovative Linux distro out there.
I'm feeling more and more a stranger.
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and
ways to force developers to sign properly. Given the current state of
Gentoo it is a much more reachable goal.
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Ryan Phillips wrote:
> The council should not vote on gleps are provide policy. They should
> be there to handle the money and world-wide problems.
>
> The developers should drive innovation; not the council.
You apparently confuse the trustees and the council. And you apparently
did miss the m
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www-client/amaya is without an active maintainer and has an open
security bug :
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129874
It needs a bump to 9.5, and it also needs a maintainer/herd. If nobody
steps in to fix it, package will have to be masked then removed from
portage.
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r
current Security policy [2], so that they know where we currently stand.
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/security/
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/vulnerability-policy.xml
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d to read the Security project pages [1] and especially our
current Security policy [2], so that they know where we currently stand.
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/security/
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/vulnerability-policy.xml
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Current Operational lead for the Ge
e power and may abuse it. But if their use of this
power is obviously abusive, the council can revert its decision and cut
the balls from that QA team. So I'm for trusting them and see. We need
more QA and they can't do their job properly the way it's working now.
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cdrx is unmaintained upstream for a few years now, does not have a
Gentoo maintainer, and now it has a security issue :
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108072
If nobody steps up to maintain and fix it, it will be masked in 48 hours
prior to complete removal from Portage.
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x27;t get us very far.
In brief, we need the team to coordinate such goals, even more than we
need global goals.
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, I'd also like to see the "meeting participants"
> table updated to explicitly list proxies, for example in the form
> "jaervosz (for koon)".
Sure, would help toward the advantage #1. Would also help identifying
council members that have a tendancy to miss meet
Lance Albertson wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
>
>>this has come up before on those lists, i just dont remember the
>>outcome :P
>
> Don't forget about jforman!
The outcome was that Bugzilla Product (here, "Gentoo Security")
could/should/would be added as a Bugzilla mail header so that proper
fi
Stuart Herbert wrote:
> I've just masked the package 'www-apps/phpgroupware', and will be
> dropping it from the tree soon. There are a number of issues with the
> project, including:
>
> * Outstanding security bugs
> * Upstream homepage no longer available
> * No real releases in over a year
F
e two feet from the exit door, and prefer
not to comment anymore on the subject, to calm down and avoid definitive
decisions I would regret.
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Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Corey Shields wrote: [Fri Nov 18 2005, 10:42:30PM CST]
>
>>Still screwed up. Lesson learned, make friends with a majority of the
>>council, write and propose a glep the day before a meeting and then push it
>>through. wow. sounds a lot like American politics.
>
> That
Jakub Moc wrote:
> Erm, what exactly could have been discussed, the revised GLEP being submitted
> about a day before the council meeting? Are you expecting people to hang on
> email 24/7?
No, but I surely expect people interested in the discussion to read the
last month council meeting decisions
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> What discussion? As both myself and Grant pointed out on this list
> before the meeting, there wasn't any. Yet the council decided to go
> ahead and approve the thing anyway...
Discussion and intermediary decision.
The intermediary decision (during the October meeting, o
Corey Shields wrote:
>>Before deciding on such proposals, it might be also wise to consult infra
>>people who'll have to implement and maintain such things, IMHO. And, how
>>exactly will be people having multiple roles handled here - still missing a
>>clear answer...
>
> Jakub++ Nobody in infra
Grant Goodyear wrote:
> My recollection was that GLEP 41 was rejected at the last
> meeting, although a revised GLEP could be resubmitted for approval. As
> far as I know, however, the GLEP has not yet been revised.
v 1.3 looks like a revised version to me (on Nov 11) :
http://www.gentoo.org/cgi
f
> | security fixes to apply" type message adding to emerge, and treating
> | GLSAs as a special case).
>
> hh! We're not supposed to be mentioning that until the thing's up
> and running.
Why not, if it can speed up portage/GLSA "emerge --security" i
)
- Q&A session
I hope I didn't miss anything... See you there.
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Stuart Herbert wrote:
>>The deadline for submitting items for the meeting agenda is set to
>>Sunday, November 13th, 20:00 UTC.
>
> Where will the agenda be posted before the meeting?
The agenda is generally posted by the chairman after the deadline, on
both gentoo-council and gentoo-dev.
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The November Gentoo Council meeting will be held on #gentoo-council next
week, Tuesday, November 15th, 20:00 UTC, presided by Seemant Kulleen.
The deadline for submitting items for the meeting agenda is set to
Sunday, November 13th, 20:00 UTC.
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Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> Oh god help. This also points to another reason why this is not such a
> good idea. Writing guideXML is a lot more work than writing an e-mail
> format file (ciaran's proposed format for those who didn't recognize it).
>
> Also having double files containing the same inf
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:00:22 +0100 Thierry Carrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | I'm probably missing something here. Please elaborate on how this GLEP
> | meets the "Preemptive" design goal...
>
> Simple. emerge --sync disp
- emerge spits out message saying 14 files need updating and there is 1
unread news item
I'm probably missing something here. Please elaborate on how this GLEP
meets the "Preemptive" design goal...
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e forums, this will
help getting important messages through. However, I'm not sure *all*
frontpage contents should get replicated to gentoo-announce and the
forums. GWN announcements for example do not need to appear elsewhere...
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:36:36 +0200 Marcin Kryczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | someone (sorry - but i can't remind who exactly and i can't find that
> | mail) mentiond it'd be nice to have some ~weekly summary of important
> | (for developers) decisions made in commu
Reminder:
Next council meeting is scheduled for this Thursday. Deadline to submit
discussion items and/or GLEPs is set to Tuesday, October 11th, 1900 UTC.
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Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Thursday 08 September 2005 03:48, Michael Stewart (vericgar) wrote:
>
>> - A new gentoo-webroot that will eventually provide a gentoo-themed
>> icon-set, error documents, and default website. This has been put in
>> it's own package, and includes a USE-flag to not in
Marius Mauch wrote:
> My other concern is that
> there is no clear criteria for commercial packages, e.g. are sun-jdk /
> other fetch restricted packages commercial?
+1
I think the world isn't black and white and we might find things in the
grey area between "commercial" and "non-commercial".
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Nathan L. Adams wrote:
> What about giving QA temporary revoke powers just like infra (Curtis
> Napier's idea), traditionalist? Fixing devrel's resolutions policies and
> Curtis' idea don't have to be mutually-exclusive.
The idea behind -infra temporary revoke power is to react to emergency
situa
f I forgot anything (that was put on the agenda by 1900 UTC yesterday)
please let me know.
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>As far as devrel goes, call me a traditionalist but I think while infra
>>should be able to do emergency deactivations (and afaik nobody's ever
>>said they shouldn't) devrel should continue to be responsible for
>>disciplinary issues including repeated QA violations reporte
Nathan L. Adams wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
>
>>>right ... once a GLEP has been hammered out and approved, there isnt really
>>>anything left for managers/council to do ... it's then up to whoever to get
>>>it done ;)
>
> They *could* do some 'creative re-org' a.k.a. remove some folks from
>
Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Yikes, that's short notice. Of course, almost by definition the first
> meeting had to have a fairly limited amount of lead time. *Shrug* Any
> chance of getting a schedule for the next couple of meetings or so?
> (Actually, I'd be quite happy if the date of the next meet
ucture/Redesign
glep37: Virtuals Deprecation
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Projects" product and "GNAP" component. Thank you.
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Tom Martin wrote:
> Marco Morales is joining Gentoo to help with the netmon herd. He's
> known as soulse- on IRC.
Happy to have you on board, Marco. If you manage to keep some free time
outside of netmon, you are free to continue to do scouting for the
security folks :)
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reading this guide.
So "emerge gnap" and start to play ! Ask me on IRC (#gentoo-gnap or
#gentoo-embedded) for any questions you may have.
For bugs/patches/enhancement requests, use the Bugzilla "Embedded"
component and assign bugs to me. Thank you.
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deployment server could push package
installation on workstations and keep track of what's installed where
and with which configuration files.
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Alec Warner wrote:
>> There is no obvious way to freeze a Portage tree (or to design a
>> specific profile) for testing on a golden workstation, to build a set of
>> update packages (ServicePack) and push it to the workstations, or to
>> have centralized accountability of what's installed where. T
Hi folks,
I would like to get your opinion on Enterprise-oriented desktop
deployment tools for Gentoo Linux (or the lack of).
As a small company CIO, I deployed Gentoo on a small scale here but
quickly ran into scaling problems and the lack of tools to help.
There is no obvious way to freeze a P
ybe some meta-bug or other, or
> just send they upstream (if correct)?
You can create a Gentoo Security / Auditing metabug and assign it to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Or send the logs directly to that alias.
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Andrej Kacian wrote:
>>Yes, ChrisWhite in a protocol IRC bot. Also speaks a few million
>>languages, including Japanese.
>
> Who's R2D2 then?
Also a Gentoo developer, living in Toronto, Canada. See the rollcall list...
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Jan Kundrát wrote:
> Chris White wrote:
>
>>I plan to create somewhat of a consistant contact point between irc users
>>that want a voice in dev.
>
> Are you awake 24/7/365?
Yes, ChrisWhite in a protocol IRC bot. Also speaks a few million
languages, including Japanese.
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compatibility
We completed the first steps towards that goal.
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-misc/dyndnsupdate (bug 84659)
No upstream and vulnerable to remote execution of code, this package has
been masked since 2005-03-21, with everyone switching to more secure
alternatives.
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needed in a 5+ machine network.
The size of the Portage tree gives us a definitive advantage : you can
have 100% Portage-packages systems, so what's-in-this-box accountability
is not the nightmare it can be with other systems that heavily rely on
third-party RPMs. We should exploit that advantage.
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Paul Waring wrote:
> On 6/8/05, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Polls are open for the metastructure reform vote. All Gentoo developers are
>>eligible to vote.
>
> Any particular reason why Gentoo users are not allowed to have a say?
This is about how we organize the work between
Danny van Dyk wrote:
> We will
> set up a fresh system and restricted access for releng people only. For
> those developers requiring access to an AMD64 system, please consider
> switching to our shiny new boxes pitr and dustball.amd64.dev.gentoo.org,
> which will be online soon thanks to Mike's a
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>>R/W overlay
>>It is now possible to specify the name of a partition from which to
>>overlay files at boot-time, allowing to write configuration changes back
>>to a floppy or a specific CF partition for example.
>
> Just curious, but what did you do to do this? I'm going
new gnap_remaster tool helps you to add extensions to existing
core files.
So emerge gnap and play ! Ask me on IRC for any questions you may have.
For bugs/patches/enhancement requests, use the Bugzilla "Embedded"
component and assign bugs to me. Thank you.
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Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> Many bugs in bugzilla have ebuilds contributed, the work is done,
> there is just no developer to add them to the tree and review them.
> Bugvoting would allow other developers to see where they can help. For
> example I am using kde but dont read all kde bugs, so if I wo
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