Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-03 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:29:29 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 06:39:18PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:36:12 -0400 Jonathan Callen a...@gentoo.org wrote: That statement needs one more qualification: and doesn't use portage.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-03 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 12:34:21PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:29:29 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: That's not a massive change to vdb behaviour either; file collisions aren't supposed to occur, as such ownership of the file is basically guranteed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-03 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:26:56 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: Aka, ebuild's should be written to assume the files they install get wiped; there is *zero* mention of mtime, nor could any ebuild rely on it and be compliant. But as it's a FEATURE, they can't assume that at all. So

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-03 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 10:28:51PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:26:56 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: Aka, ebuild's should be written to assume the files they install get wiped; there is *zero* mention of mtime, nor could any ebuild rely on it and be

[gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted on Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:05:54 +0100 as excerpted: Because going behind the package mangler's back results in horribly screwed up systems (as anyone who's ever used lafilefixer will tell you...). Well, not anyone. I never had any problems with it. (YMMV, but soon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:11:28 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Ciaran McCreesh posted on Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:05:54 +0100 as excerpted: Because going behind the package mangler's back results in horribly screwed up systems (as anyone who's ever used lafilefixer will tell

[gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Jonathan Callen
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:11:28 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Ciaran McCreesh posted on Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:05:54 +0100 as excerpted: Because going behind the package mangler's back results in horribly screwed up systems (as anyone who's ever used

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:36:12 -0400 Jonathan Callen a...@gentoo.org wrote: That statement needs one more qualification: and doesn't use portage. Portage will (by default) remove files on uninstall even if they *do not* match the checksum recorded in the vdb. This implies that most people will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2011-08-02 19:39:18 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:36:12 -0400 Jonathan Callen a...@gentoo.org wrote: That statement needs one more qualification: and doesn't use portage. Portage will (by default) remove files on uninstall even if they *do not* match the checksum

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 06:39:18PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:36:12 -0400 Jonathan Callen a...@gentoo.org wrote: That statement needs one more qualification: and doesn't use portage. Portage will (by default) remove files on uninstall even if they *do not* match

[gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo

2011-08-02 Thread Duncan
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis posted on Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:46:54 +0200 as excerpted: 2011-08-02 19:39:18 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:36:12 -0400 Jonathan Callen a...@gentoo.org wrote: That statement needs one more qualification: and doesn't use portage.