On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 16:05:49 -0600
Tim Harder wrote:
> Speaking for myself, I avoid hosting most of my Gentoo-related work
> (outside of gentoo repo ebuild mangling) on gentoo.org since I prefer
> the services offered elsewhere in terms of usability, visibility, and
> project maintenance. Take th
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 19:47:35 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
> Seems like a way to improve this would be better documentation and a
> DIY infra testing platform.
>
> First, document how to prepare a service for infra hosting. Maybe
> provide an example service.
>
> Second, publish a tarball of a con
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 07:11:12 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
> I realize this is a bit more tangential. I just think that infra is
> already a huge failure point, so having more stuff on infra actually
> makes that failure point more critical. A Gentoo where little is
> hosted on stuff we own is much
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:44 AM Alec Warner wrote:
>
> - repomirror-ci and all the CI stuff is on infra because mgorny is also on
> infra! It's not like we set his stuff up for him; instead we gave him access
> to all the infra repos and he had to write his own puppet configs and
> whatnot. T
On 2020-09-16 Wed 09:36, Jonas Stein wrote:
> The heart of a distribution is basically its infrastructure and the
> tools to test, maintain and distribute packages.
>
> If a distribution relies on external sources, which are not maintained
> by the distribution, but a single person, it has been fo
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 1:17 AM Kent Fredric wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 10:15:31 -0400
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> > It might be easier to take smaller steps, such as having a policy that
> > "any call for devs to use/test a new tool/service, or any service that
> > automatically performs transa
Hi,
> However, we are still facing the same problem: Only one person is
> involved in development and knows how to run it. In case something will
> break again and Michał will be unavailable, we can’t just push a fix and
> watch a CI pipeline picking up and deploying new nattka. Instead someone
>
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 4:17 AM Kent Fredric wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 10:15:31 -0400
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> > It might be easier to take smaller steps, such as having a policy that
> > "any call for devs to use/test a new tool/service, or any service that
> > automatically performs trans
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 10:15:31 -0400
Rich Freeman wrote:
> It might be easier to take smaller steps, such as having a policy that
> "any call for devs to use/test a new tool/service, or any service that
> automatically performs transactions on bugzilla, must be FOSS, and the
> link to the source mu
On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 11:52 PM Kent Fredric wrote:
>
> But when you file a bug, you rely on bugzilla being maintained by
> Gentoo Infra, not some 3rd party.
>
I think the Council will need to consider where it wants to draw the
lines on something like this. Here is my sense of how these sorts
On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 12:04:39 -0700
Alec Warner wrote:
> Is openrc critical to Gentoo? it doesn't live on our infra.
> Is pkgcore critical to Gentoo? it doesn't live on our infra.
Both those things are "things employed by users for their systems".
Neither of those things are integral to any work
On Sun, 2020-09-13 at 20:31 +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
> You maybe all remember what happened to stable-bot: Years ago,
> kensington created stable-bot on his own as PoC which revolutionized the
> way how we do package stabilization in bugzilla. The service run on his
> own infrastructure. Be
On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 11:31 AM Thomas Deutschmann
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> TL;DR: jstein asked council [Bug 729062] for a motion that any service
> and software which is critical for Gentoo should be developed/run in
> Gentoo namespace. Because any request to council must be discussed I
> volunteered t
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