Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 3. März 2018, 15:39:50 CET schrieb Michał Górny: > > That's not a solution. That's cheap a cheap excuse that works for one > package, for today. It does not solve the generic case, it does not mean > that other members of toolchain or any other team will not end up having > to remember

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Andreas, "Andreas K. Huettel" writes: > Well, in principle the idea is OK. We already/still keep some old > glibc, gcc, and binutils versions for that reason. > > However, I have a few conditions. > > * Only masked. Only prefix keywords. Not problem for masking. For keywords, prefix-standal

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Michał, Michał Górny writes: >> I am on the toolchain alias, and I am interested in joining the project. >> I will be responsible to deal with all the bugs for glibc-2.16 and >> glibc-2.19. Bug wranglers' work load does not change. >> >> Yes, I apologize this will generate some noise for to

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu sob, 03.03.2018 o godzinie 22∶51 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu napisał: > Hi Michał, > > Michał Górny writes: > > > > I am sure you are aware that Prefix has two variants: one is > > > prefix-rpath targeting MacOS, Solaris, AIX, Cygwin, Interix and a subset > > > of GNU/Linux; the other is p

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Andreas, I really appreciate your interest as I am try to convince our fellows. "Andreas K. Huettel" writes: > another option would be to (try to) revive glibc-2.5, 2.12, and 2.17 > instead. > Yes I know they are even older, but these are the versions that RHEL > uses, and for which RH stil

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Michał, Michał Górny writes: >> I am sure you are aware that Prefix has two variants: one is >> prefix-rpath targeting MacOS, Solaris, AIX, Cygwin, Interix and a subset >> of GNU/Linux; the other is prefix-standalone, targeting GNU/Linux and >> Android/Linux.[1] >> >> For LLVM example, it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-03-03 Thread Benda Xu
Hi William and Alec, Yes, I hear you. What I want to do is not randomly throwing upstream-unmaintained package versions into Gentoo tree. But the opposite, 1 specially maintained glibc ebuild serving as a compatible layer will isolate the obsolete linux kernel from the modern Gentoo tree. Syn

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2018, 11:57:37 CET schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > > > https://git.centos.org/summary/rpms!glibc.git > > 2.5 and 2.12 aren't there, but for 2.17 it looks good, this seems to be the > complete patchset. We should be able to translate that into a gentoo branch. ... except tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2018, 11:20:36 CET schrieb James Le Cuirot: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:10:13 +0100 > > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > > another option would be to (try to) revive glibc-2.5, 2.12, and 2.17 > > instead. > > > > You maybe won't get the full details of the changes but all th

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:10:13 +0100 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > another option would be to (try to) revive glibc-2.5, 2.12, and 2.17 instead. > > Yes I know they are even older, but these are the versions that RHEL uses, > and > for which RH still provides support (until 2020 for 2.5, 2024 fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 25. Februar 2018, 07:17:47 CET schrieb Benda Xu: > Hi all, > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running > antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18... Benda, another option would be to (try to) revive glibc-2.5, 2.12, and 2.17 instead. Yes I know they are ev

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-26 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 19∶31 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu napisał: > Hi Michał, > > Michał Górny writes: > > > I don't think this is the first old version Prefix team needs keeping. > > Another example are old versions of LLVM. > > I am sure you are aware that Prefix has two variants:

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 25. Februar 2018, 07:17:47 CET schrieb Benda Xu: > Hi all, > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running > antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18. In my experience, many of > them are data acquisition hubs or computing clusters. No administrator > cares abou

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 12:22 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:10:26AM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > > W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 15∶17 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu > > napisał: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running >

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-26 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:10:26AM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 15∶17 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu > napisał: > > Hi all, > > > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running > > antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18. In my experience, many

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-25 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Michał, Michał Górny writes: > I don't think this is the first old version Prefix team needs keeping. > Another example are old versions of LLVM. I am sure you are aware that Prefix has two variants: one is prefix-rpath targeting MacOS, Solaris, AIX, Cygwin, Interix and a subset of GNU/Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-25 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 18∶25 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu napisał: > Hi Michał, > > Michał Górny writes: > > > > So I would like to hear what you guys think if I: > > > > > > - keep glibc-2.19 and glibc-2.16 in tree and unmasking them in the > > > selected Prefix profiles; > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-25 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Michał, Michał Górny writes: >> So I would like to hear what you guys think if I: >> >> - keep glibc-2.19 and glibc-2.16 in tree and unmasking them in the >> selected Prefix profiles; >> >> - maintain those selected outdated glibc versions on the >> infrastructure of the To

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-25 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 15∶17 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu napisał: > Hi all, > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running > antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18. In my experience, many of > them are data acquisition hubs or computing clusters. No administrat

[gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-24 Thread Benda Xu
Hi all, Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running antique kernels such as 2.6.8 and 2.6.18. In my experience, many of them are data acquisition hubs or computing clusters. No administrator cares about security as long as they "work". Under the form "Prefix", Gentoo is se