Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Christian Heim
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 09:34, RH wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 11:06:12PM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: A) You have commit access to gentoo-x86, AND B) you're comfortable with the porting process OR are adept with ebuilds and would like to help I'm up for being a volunteer here.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Carlos Silva
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 13:38 +0100, Christian Heim wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 09:34, RH wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 11:06:12PM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: A) You have commit access to gentoo-x86, AND B) you're comfortable with the porting process OR are adept with ebuilds

[gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I figured it was time for a bit of cleaning... I ended up writing a really crappy script for stable to do a check of whether package.mask entries were really referencing anything or not. Luckily Brian was able to write a much better one for

[gentoo-dev] vpopmail and company

2006-01-24 Thread Darryl Wagoner
Greetings,I just did an emerge --update world which upgraded vpopmail. This update was bad news. It switched vpopmail over to mysql based auths and storage of email which I didn't have mysql or vpopmail setup for. This gave me a lot of grief. Just and FYI. -- Darryl Wagoner - WA1GONEvil triumphs

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 14:17, Alec Warner wrote: I figured it was time for a bit of cleaning... I ended up writing a really crappy script for stable to do a check of whether package.mask entries were really referencing anything or not. Luckily Brian was able to write a much better one for

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:17:24 -0500 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I figured it was time for a bit of cleaning... I ended up writing a really crappy script for stable to do a check of whether package.mask entries were really referencing

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Martin Ehmsen
Alec Warner wrote: Please have a look and see if any of the packages are yours. It would probably be easier if you added the maintainer of each package to the list (it shouldn't be that difficult, but I'm not volunteering :-P). /Martin -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 16:23, Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: All of the KDE stuff is the upcoming 3.5.1 release which we are working on in p.mask until the official release. There *are* ebuilds for all this stuff in the tree right now. So that has chopped the number of entries by a fair margin,

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Alec Warner
Marius Mauch wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:17:24 -0500 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I figured it was time for a bit of cleaning... I ended up writing a really crappy script for stable to do a check of whether package.mask entries were

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Alec Warner
Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 14:17, Alec Warner wrote: I figured it was time for a bit of cleaning... I ended up writing a really crappy script for stable to do a check of whether package.mask entries were really referencing anything or not. Luckily Brian was able to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 23:06 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Earlier tonight, I discussed with halcy0n our differing opinions of the need for modular X to enter ~arch and break trees for some ~arch users. In my opinion, this is acceptable and beneficial, as ~arch users should already be those

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Marcus D. Hanwell
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 15:40, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 16:23, Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: All of the KDE stuff is the upcoming 3.5.1 release which we are working on in p.mask until the official release. There *are* ebuilds for all this stuff in the tree

[gentoo-dev] Ebuilds and USE flags

2006-01-24 Thread Rene Zbinden
I am writing an ebuild for a program written in perl. This program has the dependency of gnuplot but with the png flag enabled. What is the gentoo way to enable this USE Flag for gnuplot when I emerge my program. cheers rene -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Marcelo Góes
On 1/24/06, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please have a look and see if any of the packages are yours. Entries in package.mask should have a corresponding ebuild in the tree somewhere. I'd like to see the number of entries chopped by a fair margin. I masked prelude stuff so that it

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:45:40 -0500 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was attempting to be helpful and filter out valid packages from the list. I could have been an ass and been like Yo I think package.mask is bloated go clean it and not given a list at all, but that is not very useful.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds and USE flags

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 11:27, Rene Zbinden wrote: I am writing an ebuild for a program written in perl. This program has the dependency of gnuplot but with the png flag enabled. What is the gentoo way to enable this USE Flag for gnuplot when I emerge my program.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds and USE flags

2006-01-24 Thread Francesco Riosa
Rene Zbinden wrote: I am writing an ebuild for a program written in perl. This program has the dependency of gnuplot but with the png flag enabled. What is the gentoo way to enable this USE Flag for gnuplot when I emerge my program. There is no active way, you could only check if the flag

[gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge snapshots

2006-01-24 Thread Kalin KOZHUHAROV
Hi all. During the last many months, more than once an idea occured in my mind, so I decided to share it. 2006-01-25T01:34 kalin $ dd if=/dev/brain of=gentoo-dev bs=1 count=3292 Do you think it will be good to have something like a snapshot of the installed packages? Something that will help

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Mark Loeser
Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:06:12 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Here's my proposal for dealing with modular X entering ~arch. What's wrong with the original idea of just making any unported ebuild pull in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of auto-use in portage-2.0.54

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:12:45 +0200 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As I said earlier, we'd like to get rid of the nasty auto-use feature, including the support for the USE_ORDER variable. Right now we intend this for 2.0.54 (might not be the final version number) unless there are

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Dan Armak
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 17:40, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 16:23, Marcus D. Hanwell wrote: All of the KDE stuff is the upcoming 3.5.1 release which we are working on in p.mask until the official release. There *are* ebuilds for all this stuff in the tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Lares Moreau
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 12:25 -0500, Mark Loeser wrote: The problem with that is that it removes all motivation to ever port the packages. They'll just stay that way forever, where forever means until I threaten to remove that from the virtual, in which case we'll be in the same scenario we

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge snapshots

2006-01-24 Thread Wernfried Haas
2 (already implemented) things you may find useful (unless you know them already of course): - adding buildpkg to your FEATURES builds binary packages, which makes it faster to revert to older versions if the new one cause problems. - dispatch-conf does a great job for the configuration

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Mark Loeser
Lares Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I did some rough calculations and we are porting about 29 pkgs/day. At this rate it will take roughly 30 days to have all packages ported to ModX. spyderous wants it tomorrow, HalycOn wants it when all is ported. I didn't say all of it ported. It seems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 01:44:28PM -0500, Mark Loeser wrote: We should aim for when it will be done in a way that minimizes the breakage for all of our users. Yes, breakage will happen, but we can wait until its down to a more reasonable value. And we probably should announce somewhere that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: Here's my proposal for dealing with modular X entering ~arch. Yes, some packages are going to break. But I intend to keep this to a minimum on packages people care about, as measured by the existence of an open porting

Re: [gentoo-dev] guide/howto switching to slotted MySQL

2006-01-24 Thread Francesco Riosa
Chris White wrote: On Monday 23 January 2006 10:06, Francesco Riosa wrote: Here there is a guide on howto switch to the slotted versions of MySQL. It's a first draft and to be totally usable some repoman commit are needed. You're probably better of putting this in bugzilla and assigning to

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

2006-01-24 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Saturday 21 January 2006 00:25, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 07:10:02AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: that depends, does your code actually have things like #ifdef DEBUG debug stuff #endif And likewise your code should NOT have some logic like the following in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ada compiler: split complete, naming suggestions for gnat-gpl?

2006-01-24 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Sunday 15 January 2006 19:54, George Shapovalov wrote: Ok, I got the answer from upstream and, as I expected, 2005 refers to the language specification and is not a release version. Upstream in fact is undecided at this point on what naming/versioning scheme it is going to use, so we need

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mike Doty wrote: I think before you go forward with something like this you should give a suitable period of warning, it's going to create a lot of bug work for all of us. Have you seen my daily emails for the past week and a half? =) I have the feeling that it will create the most work for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mark Loeser wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:06:12 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with the original idea of just making any unported ebuild pull in all of modular X (minus drivers)? Yes, it means that some people will pick up unnecessary deps until all packages are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Olivier Crete
On Tue, 2006-24-01 at 13:32 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Mark Loeser wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:06:12 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with the original idea of just making any unported ebuild pull in all of modular X (minus drivers)? Yes, it means that some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:32:00 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Loeser wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:06:12 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with the original idea of just making any unported ebuild pull in all of modular X (minus drivers)? Yes,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: So here's my plan: Before modular X enters ~arch, I will ensure that all porting bugs blocking #112675 are closed. As new bugs are filed, I will ensure that they are closed within 2 days, giving their

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mike Frysinger wrote: - we add an emerge flag (say '--debug-build') which adds nostrip to FEATURES and auto sets CFLAGS to DEBUG_CFLAGS and LDFLAGS to DEBUG_LDFLAGS - portage will add sane debug defaults to make.globals (DEBUG_CFLAGS=-O -g and DEBUG_LDFLAGS=) I'm having a tough time

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge snapshots

2006-01-24 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Wernfried Haas wrote: - adding buildpkg to your FEATURES builds binary packages, which makes it faster to revert to older versions if the new one cause problems. You could also use quickpkg, i.e. write a script that interates through world and runs quickpkg on each

Re: [gentoo-dev] vpopmail and company

2006-01-24 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Darryl Wagoner wrote: I just did an emerge --update world which upgraded vpopmail. This update was bad news. It switched vpopmail over to mysql based auths and storage of email which I didn't have mysql or vpopmail setup for. This gave me a lot of grief. Just and FYI.

[gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
I think the time is mature to ask for another step of Gentoo/ALT improvement ;) Currently ebuilds uses a sed syntax that's mostly GNU sed 4 compatible, but incompatible with BSD sed for instance. This is usually fine as we aliases sed to gsed in our bashrc so that the problem in sed calls is

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge snapshots

2006-01-24 Thread Francesco Riosa
A. Khattri wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Wernfried Haas wrote: - adding buildpkg to your FEATURES builds binary packages, which makes it faster to revert to older versions if the new one cause problems. You could also use quickpkg, i.e. write a script that interates through world and

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 18:14, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: What I'd like to ask is, if possible, to start using gsed instead, that's present on both GNU and other userlands with current stable version of sed (4.1.4; ppc-macos has no problem as the 4.0.9 version uses gsed anyway). if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Alec Warner wrote: Well IMHO, you can do what you want and if any arch team doesn't like it they can always pmask it themselves in their arch profile. I will say I disagree with putting it into ~arch in the current state, although I agree with the rationale, and it IS your package(s), just as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 24/01/2006-12:25:01(-0500): Mark Loeser types Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:06:12 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Here's my proposal for dealing with modular X entering ~arch. What's wrong with the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge snapshots

2006-01-24 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Francesco Riosa wrote: Better create the list from /var/db/pkg/* , world file only own the file explicitly merged, leaving out any dependencies (fex libraries). Yes you're right - that is what I did last time I played with this. -- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:14:13 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comments about this? (Please don't tell me to do a GLEP about this) We've discussed this several times in the past, and every time the answer has been that in the ebuild environment `sed` is gnu sed-4. It's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 11:06:12PM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: A) You have commit access to gentoo-x86, AND B) you're comfortable with the porting process OR are adept with ebuilds and would like to help I'm up for being a volunteer here. All devs who've

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:32, Mike Frysinger wrote: if you're implying we change all calls from 'sed' to 'gsed' in ebuilds then the answer is no from my pov Can you at least read all my mails till the end before replying next time? I was referring mainly to the ones that calls sed from

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:48, Stephen Bennett wrote: We've discussed this several times in the past, and every time the answer has been that in the ebuild environment `sed` is gnu sed-4. It's the only sane way to do things, since certain other platforms ship retarded versions of sed. And

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 19:13, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:32, Mike Frysinger wrote: if you're implying we change all calls from 'sed' to 'gsed' in ebuilds then the answer is no from my pov Can you at least read all my mails till the end before

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 19:17, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:48, Stephen Bennett wrote: We've discussed this several times in the past, and every time the answer has been that in the ebuild environment `sed` is gnu sed-4. It's the only sane way to do

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 17:56, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: - we add an emerge flag (say '--debug-build') which adds nostrip to FEATURES and auto sets CFLAGS to DEBUG_CFLAGS and LDFLAGS to DEBUG_LDFLAGS - portage will add sane debug defaults to make.globals

Re: Environement categories (was Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2)

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 01:44, Brian Harring wrote: Might I suggest this one just get shelved for a while? everything that gets shelved portage way stays that way for *quite* a while i would be ok with implementing the back end (i.e. FEATURES=debug-build) but putting off the front end (i.e.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:33:32 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | What's wrong with the original idea of just making any unported | ebuild pull in all of modular X (minus drivers)? Yes, it means that | some people will pick up unnecessary deps until all packages are | ported, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 01:17:23 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | And as there's no current way to fix the invokation of sed from | within xargs or find, I'm not going to ask to change _all_ the calls | of sed, but just the ones done through those two or other scripts and |

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 25/01/2006-00:14:13(+0100): Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò types What I'd like to ask is, if possible, to start using gsed instead, that's present on both GNU and other userlands with current stable version of sed (4.1.4; ppc-macos has no problem as the 4.0.9 version uses gsed anyway).

[gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Duncan
Wernfried Haas posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:52:29 +0100: On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 01:44:28PM -0500, Mark Loeser wrote: We should aim for when it will be done in a way that minimizes the breakage for all of our users. Yes, breakage will happen, but we can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Jason Wever
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:35:07 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if there are archs that would rather not move to modular X, that's their prerogative. The way I look at it is, sometimes change comes at a price. I really hope they aren't any archs I use though, because I take a

Re: [gentoo-dev] sed vs gsed

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 00:16, Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 25/01/2006-00:14:13(+0100): Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò types What I'd like to ask is, if possible, to start using gsed instead, that's present on both GNU and other userlands with current stable version of sed (4.1.4;

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:00:14 -0700 Joshua Baergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | To be clear here: nothing will be broken. Xorg 7.0 will just not | provide virtual/x11 (and in fact blocks it), so there will be issues | with blocks showing up due to the upgrade path. Avoiding the upgrade | (and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:00:14 -0700 Joshua Baergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | To be clear here: nothing will be broken. Xorg 7.0 will just not | provide virtual/x11 (and in fact blocks it), so there will be issues | with blocks showing up due to the upgrade path.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * There is a clean upgrade solution available that will result in non-ported packages merely pulling in a load of extra unnecessary packages (that non-modular users have anyway). * The clean solution visibly illustrates that a package is unported. Users who are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Possible, but we can't prove this one way or the other. Certainly very few modular X users have encountered apps that are still unported, as evidenced by very few remaining blockers on #112675. And there are a fairly large number of ... people using modular X already,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Please contact me if you'd like to be one of these volunteers. Requirements: A) You have commit access to gentoo-x86, AND B) you're comfortable with the porting process OR are adept with ebuilds and would like to help I've decided to give it a wait for a few days

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:28:09 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Yes, for all 3 people who have a clue what it means when virtual/x11 | gets pulled in. How many users do you seriously think will have a clue | and think Oh, virtual/x11 is getting pulled in here. I must have a | package

[gentoo-dev] Re: coreutils: deprecated behavior not so deprecated

2006-01-24 Thread MIkey
Mike Frysinger wrote: note: for those who think they can argue for support of these features to be kept in Gentoo, you're barking up the wrong tree so dont waste your time -mike So, um, when can we expect all hell to break loose? Just a quick check on my laptop:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 15:53, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:28:09 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | * The clean solution is the solution originally proposed to this | list, and the reason we are using new style virtuals. | | No, this is wrong. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:28:09 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Yes, for all 3 people who have a clue what it means when virtual/x11 | gets pulled in. How many users do you seriously think will have a clue | and think Oh, virtual/x11 is getting pulled in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Jason Stubbs wrote: Only by modifying every ebuild that has a virtual/x11 dependency. The atom virtual/x11 cannot be limited to specific versions on its own with old style virtuals. Is that so? I guess this must be wrong, then: /usr/portage/profiles/base/virtuals:# Only have this for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:08:07 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Uh, given that you can do that with old style virtuals, methinks | that isn't the case... | | Only by modifying every ebuild that has a virtual/x11 dependency. The | atom virtual/x11 cannot be limited to specific

Re: Environement categories (was Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2)

2006-01-24 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 08:06:12PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 01:44, Brian Harring wrote: Might I suggest this one just get shelved for a while? everything that gets shelved portage way stays that way for *quite* a while If people don't give a damn about it,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:16:38 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Where do they define lots? Many packages will legitimately pull in a | large quantity of libs or apps that are not installed by someone | emerging xorg-server, e.g. Heck, add in a non-ported-package fake package hack if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:16:38 -0800 Donnie Berkholz | I guarantee you that adding all of modular X to the virtual/x11 will | make this drag out for years, and THAT is unacceptable to me. Why must it drag out for years? There's no difference in the speed of porting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 16:19, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Jason Stubbs wrote: Only by modifying every ebuild that has a virtual/x11 dependency. The atom virtual/x11 cannot be limited to specific versions on its own with old style virtuals. Is that so? I guess this must be wrong, then:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:08:07 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The premise for not doing this is that packages will never be fixed, | right? Why not make the modular X provide virtual/x11 and just | institute a policy that no new packages can go into stable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:34:49 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:16:38 -0800 Donnie Berkholz | | I guarantee you that adding all of modular X to the virtual/x11 | | will make this drag out for years, and THAT is unacceptable to me. |

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Order of operations: buildpkg

2006-01-24 Thread Francesco Riosa
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 23 January 2006 15:55, Simon Stelling wrote: Lares Moreau wrote: Many ebuilds fail due to failed QA. How difficult would it be to have the package create the tarball before the QA tests. If this were possible, QA could be slightly quicker, as there

[gentoo-portage-dev] [gentoo-dev-portage] [PATCH] prevent world file corruption by writing atomically

2006-01-24 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, There is dangerous handling of world file updates throughout portage. The attached patch wraps all world file updates in a write_atomic() function which is designed to prevent interprocess interference and prevent corruption when an 'out

[gentoo-portage-dev] confcache integration

2006-01-24 Thread Brian Harring
Yo. Looking to integrate confcache support into trunk some time in the near future- had users testing it for about 2 months (give or take), so far it's behaved pretty decently. A few packages eat themselves when ran with --cache (bad autotooling), hence the addition of restrict=confcache

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Order of operations: buildpkg

2006-01-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 03:43, Francesco Riosa wrote: Indeed, could someone shade a light on what happen to /var/db/pkg and world file when using ebuild this manner ? Could be rephrased as Does it act exactly the same way emerge does ? the 'qmerge' step would take care of updating

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Order of operations: buildpkg

2006-01-24 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 14:19, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 03:43, Francesco Riosa wrote: Indeed, could someone shade a light on what happen to /var/db/pkg and world file when using ebuild this manner ? Could be rephrased as Does it act exactly the same way emerge

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Order of operations: buildpkg

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:19:22 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 03:43, Francesco Riosa wrote: Indeed, could someone shade a light on what happen to /var/db/pkg and world file when using ebuild this manner ? Could be rephrased as Does it act exactly the

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] confcache integration

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 04:50:31 -0800 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yo. Looking to integrate confcache support into trunk some time in the near future- had users testing it for about 2 months (give or take), so far it's behaved pretty decently. A few packages eat themselves when

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] confcache integration

2006-01-24 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: Yo. Looking to integrate confcache support into trunk some time in the near future- had users testing it for about 2 months (give or take), so far it's behaved pretty decently. A few packages eat themselves when ran

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Order of operations: buildpkg

2006-01-24 Thread Francesco Riosa
Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 14:19, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 03:43, Francesco Riosa wrote: Indeed, could someone shade a light on what happen to /var/db/pkg and world file when using ebuild this manner ? Could be rephrased as Does it act

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] making aux_get more usable for vardbapi

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:08:00 -0800 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 07:44:44PM +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 03:47:11 -0800 Can't follow your thinking here. As said, the code won't corrupt any data, at worst it will tell the user that it

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] confcache integration

2006-01-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 21:50, Brian Harring wrote: +os.makedirs(mysettings[CONFCACHE_DIR], mode=0775) +os.chown(mysettings[CONFCACHE_DIR], portage_uid, -1) This will die when running as non-root, no? ebuild is now oft used by devs running as normal users which will be broken by this.

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [gentoo-dev-portage] [PATCH] prevent world file corruption by writing atomically

2006-01-24 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: the atomic writing of data in writedict could be gutted out to a derivative of the file class; via that, same underlying atomic update code for writedict and wordfile updates... Hmm, override the constructor and close

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] confcache integration

2006-01-24 Thread solar
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 00:30 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Tuesday 24 January 2006 21:50, Brian Harring wrote: +os.makedirs(mysettings[CONFCACHE_DIR], mode=0775) +os.chown(mysettings[CONFCACHE_DIR], portage_uid, -1) This will die when running as non-root, no? ebuild is now oft used