Re: [gentoo-dev] Sowing the seeds of a warconfig tool

2006-08-05 Thread Joshua Nichols
m h wrote: Like I said, if you are interested in manipulating wars from ant or maven perhaps cargo is for you. I'm assumming this is more of the programmer/qa type person who wants this sort of functionality. My end user is a sys-admin. They are usually more comfortable from the command

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla

2006-08-05 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: Peter Gordon wrote: Matthew Marlowe wrote: If we could get a license donated, my vote would be to switch to Atlassian Jira, http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira. It seems to be gaining mindshare rather quickly, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla

2006-08-05 Thread Peter Gordon
Luis Francisco Araujo wrote: I think it is perfectly valid we use this kind of tools for development; as far as i know, our SC refers to those components (in form of software and metadata) to be free software upon which a user depend to build a Gentoo system, and this isn't one of those

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:18:40 -0400 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give me some numbers on how many things still fail with that enabled because I would be concerned if the number is too high. I don't have numbers, but if you have FEATURES=test set yourself you should know how many fail.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:39:16 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag, 5. August 2006 02:11 schrieb Kevin F. Quinn: At the very least, ebuild maintainers and ATs should be running with tests switched on. If the tests are known to fail then the ebuild can either

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:25:17 -0700 Joshua Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree that it would be nice to see more people using test and collision-protect I don't think its something we should enable at this point in time till we have many packages working correctly with the feature.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Samstag, 5. August 2006 11:19 schrieb Kevin F. Quinn: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:39:16 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag, 5. August 2006 02:11 schrieb Kevin F. Quinn: At the very least, ebuild maintainers and ATs should be running with tests switched on. If the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla

2006-08-05 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 01:32:50AM -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: However, I don't believe that Bugzilla is such a separate entity from the distribution as a whole. I, for one, would simply stop reporting bugs there if it was switched to a proprietary bug-tracking tool. Now, one could say that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf * gettext * tar That makes _4_ system packages. Before I would consider making FEATURES=test a default, I would add least want the system

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Sascha Geschwandtner
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if anyone is interested in my opinion, but I'll dump it on you anyway. :-) IMO devs should be working with collision-protect sandbox strict stricter test userpriv but let's not get too excited ;) ACK. I also agree with the general idea to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:14:17 +0200 Sascha Geschwandtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So right now, I'd like to see collision-protect sandbox strict included in the default FEATUREs. sandbox and strict are already default for a long time. Marius -- Public Key at

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-fs/dmraid needs lovin'

2006-08-05 Thread Ahmed Ammar
Alec, Will you proxy-maintain it ? PLEASE I am willing to test it and create up to date ebuilds for it. Ahmed. (amd64 arch. tester) On 18/07/06, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This package was given to treecleaners[1], but I think it is too useful to clean from the tree. I'd like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Sascha Geschwandtner
Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sandbox and strict are already default for a long time. Not in the selinux profiles (sandbox is missing there). Regarding strict, I just found out it's in the base profile, so you are of course correct. But maybe I'm overlooking something else. Well, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Sascha Geschwandtner
Sascha Geschwandtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not in the selinux profiles (sandbox is missing there). No, I'm wrong here either. Sorry for the noise. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 12:57 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf * gettext * tar That makes _4_ system packages. Before I would consider

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Marius Mauch wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:14:17 +0200 Sascha Geschwandtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So right now, I'd like to see collision-protect sandbox strict included in the default FEATUREs. sandbox and strict are already default for a long time. Not 100% true. Sandbox has been

[gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Duncan
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:33:39 +0200: IMO devs should be working with collision-protect sandbox strict stricter test userpriv but let's not get too excited ;) Don't forget (for the appropriate arch(s)) multilib-strict!

[gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Duncan
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:33:39 +0200: IMO devs should be working with collision-protect sandbox strict stricter test userpriv but let's not get too excited ;) Don't forget (for the appropriate arch(s)) multilib-strict!

[gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass and binary packages

2006-08-05 Thread Christian Heim
I'm currently preparing one of my embedded system for a test-run and noticed that a *binary* package of media-libs/libpng pulls in the autofoo-stuff. I went looking for the reason, looked into the eutils, multilib and finally autotools eclasses and saw that the autotools.eclass is setting the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Sven Köhler
I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. I have a related question, but first a comment: I like the idea, that packages run their self-tests before they get

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:29:48 -0400 Stephen P. Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:14:17 +0200 Sascha Geschwandtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So right now, I'd like to see collision-protect sandbox strict included in the default FEATUREs.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Markus Rothe
On Saturday 05 August 2006 15:14, Sven Köhler wrote: So my question is: where's the difference between USE=test and FEATURES=test ? So FEATURES=test means, that portage runs src_test(), right? So what does USE=test mean? sometimes packages require special package dependencies when the tests

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:14:23 +0200 Sven Köhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my question is: where's the difference between USE=test and FEATURES=test ? So FEATURES=test means, that portage runs src_test(), right? Yes. So what does USE=test mean? USE=test is a workaround; portage cannot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:35:32 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | USE=test is a workaround; portage cannot use FEATUREs in dep | strings. Actually, it could, if anyone ever got around to adding FEATURES to USE_EXPAND... -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaran dot mccreesh at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Alec Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:35:32 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | USE=test is a workaround; portage cannot use FEATUREs in dep | strings. Actually, it could, if anyone ever got around to adding FEATURES to USE_EXPAND... We would do lots of things; that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Tim Yamin
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 02:26:16AM +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. Sure everyone likes to watch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Treecleaners Recruiting

2006-08-05 Thread Doug Goldstein
Alec Warner wrote: All you crazy folks that wanted to help clean the tree please e-mail me off list. To briefly go over requirements you need to be able to: Speak English; Read English; Write English; Use Bugzilla; Use Portage; Some of you need to be able to use CVS and SVN; Some of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 12:04:01PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:35:32 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | USE=test is a workaround; portage cannot use FEATUREs in dep | strings. Actually, it could, if anyone ever got around to adding

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 09:29, Stephen P. Becker wrote: P.S. Note that we have offered various portage devs hardware and/or an account on Iluxa's ginormous Origin 2000 machine in the past with the intention of getting this fixed, and nobody has taken us up on that... so ? none of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 06:57, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf * gettext * tar That makes _4_ system packages. Before I would consider making

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass and binary packages

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 10:12, Christian Heim wrote: I went looking for the reason, looked into the eutils, multilib and finally autotools eclasses and saw that the autotools.eclass is setting the DEPEND but not the RDEPEND. IIRC portage-2.1 is now setting RDEPEND to DEPEND if nothing other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 02:35:49PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 06:57, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf * gettext

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 09:29, Stephen P. Becker wrote: P.S. Note that we have offered various portage devs hardware and/or an account on Iluxa's ginormous Origin 2000 machine in the past with the intention of getting this fixed, and nobody has taken us up on that...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:35:49 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 06:57, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf *

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass and binary packages

2006-08-05 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Heim wrote: I'm currently preparing one of my embedded system for a test-run and noticed that a *binary* package of media-libs/libpng pulls in the autofoo-stuff. I went looking for the reason, looked into the eutils, multilib and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 14:56, Stephen P. Becker wrote: The metadata for sandbox suggests that it is under the control of the portage team, even if they lack a herd: ... because it is tightly integrated with portage ... there is the aspects of portage which require some sandbox env

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 14:48, Harald van Dijk wrote: Then RESTRICT=test, or use a src_test which warns on test failures rather than aborting, could be used. Or am I missing something? some architectures pass fine my [hidden] point was that globally enabling/disabling FEATURES=test isnt a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 14:56, Stephen P. Becker wrote: The metadata for sandbox suggests that it is under the control of the portage team, even if they lack a herd: ... because it is tightly integrated with portage ... there is the aspects of portage which require

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass and binary packages

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 15:32, Zac Medico wrote: The actual fault is in libpng-1.2.12-r1.ebuild where RDEPEND= should be explicitly set. the actual fault is portage instead of half-assing all this DEPEND/RDEPEND garbage, why not fix portage to do it consistently either it implicitly sets

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 16:07, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Of course I know this, and it sucks. If sandbox is so tightly integrated with portage, then why *isn't* there a portage team member who works on sandbox? because portage requires deep knowledge in python/bash sandbox requires deep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 16:07 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 14:56, Stephen P. Becker wrote: The metadata for sandbox suggests that it is under the control of the portage team, even if they lack a herd: ... because it is tightly

[gentoo-dev] @MKINSTALLDIRS@ funk

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
not sure the impact of this, but i just finished fixing three packages with this issue, and the problem arises due to system packages being updated ... a recent upgrade with gettext causes some packages to fail with errors like: /bin/sh: @MKINSTALLDIRS@: No such file or directory if you hit

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools.eclass and binary packages

2006-08-05 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 15:32, Zac Medico wrote: The actual fault is in libpng-1.2.12-r1.ebuild where RDEPEND= should be explicitly set. the actual fault is portage instead of half-assing all this DEPEND/RDEPEND

Re: [gentoo-dev] implicit RDEPEND

2006-08-05 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 17:29, Zac Medico wrote: I'm not satisfied with the current implicit RDEPEND behavior either. I propose that we make repoman force explicit definition of RDEPEND. and i'm on the opposite side

[gentoo-dev] PDA herd call for assistance

2006-08-05 Thread Chris White
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, The PDA herd is pretty slim right now and the only active members are really liquidx and myself. That said I'm looking around for people that can help with confirmations/patches/etc. for app-pda packages. Plans are to hopefully pull

[gentoo-portage-dev] A hook to Emerge (bug 142897)

2006-08-05 Thread David-John Miller
Hi Ive cooked up a rudimentary hook system into portage-2.1.1_pre4-r2 If there is an API defined for functions that can be plugged into emerge, this system can dynamically load any scripts in /etc/portage/portage.modules/ Theres a patch included in the bug on bugzilla, Im looking