Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 07:18:13 -0500 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a more modern replacement. Don't recommend mplayer2, afaik it's dead. Also, I'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Things one could be upset about

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: The result of the current policy is that if you're waiting for the GLSA, unless it's _extreme_ priority (heartbleed level), on at least amd64, you're very often sitting there exposed for well over a week, and too often a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:57:36 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:19:19 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: what Michał claims is that 'foo' will want ffmpeg, no matter what. Maybe he's talking about some case where portage failed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:15:49 Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se napisał(a): the ffmpeg fork above is very confusing because libav is the ffmpeg fork, and I think what you mean here is simply ffmpeg. I suggest: Well, you

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep filenames the same/etc such that the packages collide in their recommended configurations. Some people do it on purpose, with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:15:49 Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se napisał(a): Michał Górny wrote: Title: USE=libav introduction Author: Micha?? G??rny mgo...@gentoo.org Your mailer doesn't set charset for the .txt attachment. NeedPatch :). Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2015-01-yy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:41:00 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:35:39 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Title: CPU_FLAGS_X86 introduction Author: Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2015-01-xx Revision: 1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:20:10 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:41:00 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:35:39 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Title: CPU_FLAGS_X86 introduction Author: Michał

[gentoo-dev] Re: Things one could be upset about

2015-01-26 Thread Duncan
Róbert Čerňanský posted on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:27:50 +0100 as excerpted: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 04:29:43 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: [...] More frequent updates is most likely the reason that you do not have to edit use flags every time. With the information below, seems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 16:40:35 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:20:10 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:41:00 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:35:39 +0100 Michał

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 07:18:13 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: kde-misc/kio-ftps

2015-01-26 Thread Johannes Huber
# Johannes Huber j...@gentoo.org (26 Jan 2015) # Masked for removal in 30 days, bug #537746. # Superseded by kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves ages ago. kde-misc/kio-ftps -- Johannes Huber (johu) Gentoo Linux Developer / KDE Team GPG Key ID F3CFD2BD signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-26 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/26/2015 03:57 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:19:19 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: what Michał claims is that 'foo' will want ffmpeg, no matter what. Maybe he's talking about some case where portage failed to trigger a rebuild when appropriate. We've had

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:41:00 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:35:39 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Title: CPU_FLAGS_X86 introduction Author: Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2015-01-xx Revision: 1

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Jan 26, 2015 11:01 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Rich Freeman wrote: there wouldn't be an /etc/init.d, but rather a bazillion /pkg/guid/etc/init.d directories or something like that I guess an abstraction akin to pkg-config could solve the problem. Sort of. You can't call a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 24/01/2015 00:12, Michał Górny ha scritto: $ emerge -1v app-portage/cpuinfo2cpuflags $ cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86.py it's cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86 w/o the .py here

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Things one could be upset about

2015-01-26 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:20:30 -0500 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: The result of the current policy is that if you're waiting for the GLSA, unless it's _extreme_ priority (heartbleed level), on at least amd64, you're

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 23:11:35 viv...@gmail.com viv...@gmail.com napisał(a): Il 24/01/2015 00:12, Michał Górny ha scritto: $ emerge -1v app-portage/cpuinfo2cpuflags $ cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86.py it's cpuinfo2cpuflags-x86 w/o the .py here floppym already told me, I updated it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Figuring out the solution to in-network-sandbox distcc

2015-01-26 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 12:03:27 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 11:05:34 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Parent namespace solution - The alternative is to wrap distcc so that parent network namespace is regained. Sadly, for a start

[gentoo-dev] Re: Things one could be upset about

2015-01-26 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:20:30 -0500 as excerpted: Honestly, I think we should really reconsider the current GLSA policy. What's the next step, not to step on anyone's toes? It's going to take coordination, so get a sense of the council first and then see what the security

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] Generate soname dependency metadata (282639)

2015-01-26 Thread Zac Medico
Generate soname dependency metadata for binary and installed packages, in the form of PROVIDES and REQUIRES metadata. It is useful to generate PROVIDES and REQUIRES metadata now, so that it will be available when dependency resolver support is added in the future. Note that slot-operator

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep filenames the same/etc such that the packages collide in their recommended configurations. Some people do it on purpose, with the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Peter Stuge
Michał Górny wrote: Title: USE=libav introduction Author: Micha?? G??rny mgo...@gentoo.org Your mailer doesn't set charset for the .txt attachment. Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2015-01-yy Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: media-video/ffmpeg Display-If-Installed:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:39:04 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Users who want to use the ffmpeg fork instead need to specify USE=-libav explicitly. As Peter said, please avoid such controversial statements. The most notable example of such package is media-video/mplayer which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: news item and script for CPU_FLAGS_X86

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 00:35:39 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Title: CPU_FLAGS_X86 introduction Author: Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2015-01-xx Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Keyword: amd64 ~amd64 x86 ~x86 but why ? will you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 11:20:54 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Where is libav USE and package set as default over ffmpeg? I haven't found that in profiles/ dir :/ (or is it going to be done when implementing this?) Right now in virtual/ffmpeg. not entirely true since the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=libav as replacement for broken || ( libav:= ffmpeg:= )

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:19:19 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: what Michał claims is that 'foo' will want ffmpeg, no matter what. Maybe he's talking about some case where portage failed to trigger a rebuild when appropriate. We've had a number of bugs like this that have been

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a more modern replacement. Don't recommend mplayer2, afaik it's dead. Also, I'd drop modern from there: I don't see much more modernity in those forks except

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Rich Freeman wrote: I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep filenames the same/etc such that the packages collide in their

Re: [gentoo-dev] Figuring out the solution to in-network-sandbox distcc

2015-01-26 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:59:01 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 11:05:34 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Generic proxy solution -- The simplest solution so far seems to be setting a generic SOCKS proxy inside the build environment,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review: USE=libav news item

2015-01-26 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:37:09 +0100 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: media-video/mplayer2 or media-video/mpv may be used as a more

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LibreSSL, introduce virtual/openssl

2015-01-26 Thread hasufell
On 01/26/2015 01:08 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Rich Freeman wrote: I personally find it annoying when people fork projects, decide not to maintain ABI compatibility with the original project, and then keep filenames the same/etc