Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla config wrt games
On 05/28/2015 08:03 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On 26 May 2015 18:07, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-05-26, o godz. 09:59:50 Thomas Kahle: I maintain a game (games-strategy/freeotion) aside from the games herd. When users report bugs, they choose the Games component and then bugs get auto-assigned to the games alias. This is also the recommended procedure: https://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?title=Project:Games Given our games maintenance rules this seems wrong. Shouldn't games bugs be wrangled based on metadata like other bugs? I understand that changing this behaviour would create a lot of useless bugwrangling work... so maybe there is a different solution? I'd say we should reset the default assignee to wranglers. This is once again a relict of treating games special for no good reason. might want to cut out the editorialing. there's very good reasons for it: - there's a games component that users have historically rarely used incorrectly (e.g. filing non-games related bugs under it, and filing games bugs under something else) People have frequently filed incorrect bugs, especially regarding overlays like gamerlay. You probably haven't noticed though. - historically there have been very few people outside of the games herd that maintained games packages, and even then, the bug should be assigned to games and the maintainers cc-ed. Since the games lead is inactive, this is not even true anymore. It becomes more common to maintain games packages outside of the games herd, especially since the council does support this.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla config wrt games
On 26 May 2015 18:07, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-05-26, o godz. 09:59:50 Thomas Kahle: I maintain a game (games-strategy/freeotion) aside from the games herd. When users report bugs, they choose the Games component and then bugs get auto-assigned to the games alias. This is also the recommended procedure: https://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?title=Project:Games Given our games maintenance rules this seems wrong. Shouldn't games bugs be wrangled based on metadata like other bugs? I understand that changing this behaviour would create a lot of useless bugwrangling work... so maybe there is a different solution? I'd say we should reset the default assignee to wranglers. This is once again a relict of treating games special for no good reason. might want to cut out the editorialing. there's very good reasons for it: - there's a games component that users have historically rarely used incorrectly (e.g. filing non-games related bugs under it, and filing games bugs under something else) - historically there have been very few people outside of the games herd that maintained games packages, and even then, the bug should be assigned to games and the maintainers cc-ed. as i already said, we do this for other components/teams as well, so the handling of games bugs is not unique, both historically and today. i don't think changing the behavior makes sense when the majority still should be assigned to games@. if you wanted to address a real problem, then the bug i referenced would help for all packages/herds: http://bugs.gentoo.org/550158 -mike signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[gentoo-dev] Bugzilla config wrt games
Hi, I maintain a game (games-strategy/freeotion) aside from the games herd. When users report bugs, they choose the Games component and then bugs get auto-assigned to the games alias. This is also the recommended procedure: https://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?title=Project:Games Given our games maintenance rules this seems wrong. Shouldn't games bugs be wrangled based on metadata like other bugs? I understand that changing this behaviour would create a lot of useless bugwrangling work... so maybe there is a different solution? Cheers, Thomas -- Thomas Kahle http://dev.gentoo.org/~tomka/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla config wrt games
Dnia 2015-05-26, o godz. 09:59:50 Thomas Kahle to...@gentoo.org napisał(a): I maintain a game (games-strategy/freeotion) aside from the games herd. When users report bugs, they choose the Games component and then bugs get auto-assigned to the games alias. This is also the recommended procedure: https://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?title=Project:Games Given our games maintenance rules this seems wrong. Shouldn't games bugs be wrangled based on metadata like other bugs? I understand that changing this behaviour would create a lot of useless bugwrangling work... so maybe there is a different solution? I'd say we should reset the default assignee to wranglers. This is once again a relict of treating games special for no good reason. Comparing the two approaches: - worst case with bug-wranglers@ is that wranglers have extra work of reassigning to games@, - worst case with games@ is that a number of bugs never gets assigned to correct maintainers (and possibly solved). -- Best regards, Michał Górny pgpIihuRe7pIX.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla config wrt games
On 26 May 2015 09:59, Thomas Kahle wrote: I maintain a game (games-strategy/freeotion) aside from the games herd. When users report bugs, they choose the Games component and then bugs get auto-assigned to the games alias. This is also the recommended procedure: https://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?title=Project:Games Given our games maintenance rules this seems wrong. Shouldn't games bugs be wrangled based on metadata like other bugs? I understand that changing this behaviour would create a lot of useless bugwrangling work... so maybe there is a different solution? not really games specific -- this applies to every component that has a default assignee. unless/until we can make bugzilla aware of specific packages that the user could select/enter so bugzilla could pull owner info out of metadata.xml directly, i think the status quo is the least crappy. relevant: http://bugs.gentoo.org/550158 -mike signature.asc Description: Digital signature