On Sat, 2022-03-19 at 08:15 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2022, Zoltan Puskas wrote:
>
> [Please don't top-post.]
>
> > I've been using both repoman _and_ pkgcheck becasue I was not sure
> > which
> > one covers all the checks I need to make. In fact [Pull Requests
> >
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022, Zoltan Puskas wrote:
[Please don't top-post.]
> I've been using both repoman _and_ pkgcheck becasue I was not sure which
> one covers all the checks I need to make. In fact [Pull Requests
> wiki](https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:GitHub/Pull_requests) has a
> big
Ühel kenal päeval, R, 11.03.2022 kell 21:53, kirjutas Joshua Kinard:
> the extra checks that pkgcheck runs haven't really applied to me.
Looks to be mostly true, as you maintain only a few packages, but you
might find these links useful to filter the CI output per maintainer
regardless:
On 3/11/2022 20:57, Sam James wrote:
>
>
>> On 10 Mar 2022, at 23:18, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>>
>> On 3/10/2022 14:58, Alec Warner wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:27 AM Joshua Kinard wrote:
On 3/9/2022 16:00, Matt Turner wrote:
> I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove
On 3/11/2022 20:54, Sam James wrote:
>
>
>> On 11 Mar 2022, at 19:39, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>>
>> On 3/11/2022 03:54, Mart Raudsepp wrote:> Ühel kenal päeval, N, 10.03.2022
>> kell 18:18, kirjutas Joshua Kinard:
I stick to the officially-published method of checking and committing
> On 10 Mar 2022, at 23:18, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>
> On 3/10/2022 14:58, Alec Warner wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:27 AM Joshua Kinard wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3/9/2022 16:00, Matt Turner wrote:
I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
dev-util/pkgcheck
> On 11 Mar 2022, at 17:14, Peter Stuge wrote:
> [snip]
> Looking into the future then maybe portage could even come to use
> pkgcore for the low-level things that pkgcore does, then even users
> could enjoy improved performance.
>
Are you volunteering to work on this substantial task?
> On 11 Mar 2022, at 19:39, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>
> On 3/11/2022 03:54, Mart Raudsepp wrote:> Ühel kenal päeval, N, 10.03.2022
> kell 18:18, kirjutas Joshua Kinard:
>>> I stick to the officially-published method of checking and committing
>>> changes:
>>>
> On 11 Mar 2022, at 19:51, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>
> On 3/11/2022 13:25, Alec Warner wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>
>> The new workflow with pkgcheck was announced at the end of 2019:
>> https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2019/12/12/a-better-ebuild-workflow-with-pure-git-and-pkgcheck
>>
>> It's been
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 4:43 PM Francesco Riosa wrote:
>
> Il giorno mer 9 mar 2022 alle ore 22:01 Matt Turner ha
> scritto:
>>
>> I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
>> dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts)
>
>
> Hi using
Il giorno mer 9 mar 2022 alle ore 22:01 Matt Turner
ha scritto:
> I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
> dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts)
>
Hi using `repoman manifest` in scripts here, what would be the correct
replacement for
On 11/03/2022 21.51, Joshua Kinard wrote:
> On 3/11/2022 13:25, Alec Warner wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>
>> The new workflow with pkgcheck was announced at the end of 2019:
>> https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2019/12/12/a-better-ebuild-workflow-with-pure-git-and-pkgcheck
>>
>> It's been 2 years, I
On 3/11/2022 13:25, Alec Warner wrote:
[snip]
>
> The new workflow with pkgcheck was announced at the end of 2019:
> https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2019/12/12/a-better-ebuild-workflow-with-pure-git-and-pkgcheck
>
> It's been 2 years, I think we can bring everyone into the fold here.
I've
On 3/11/2022 03:54, Mart Raudsepp wrote:> Ühel kenal päeval, N, 10.03.2022
kell 18:18, kirjutas Joshua Kinard:
>> I stick to the officially-published method of checking and committing
>> changes:
>> https://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-maintenance/git/index.html
>>
>> The two tools highlighted
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022, Alec Warner wrote:
> I'm not sure a news item is strictly necessary, we might just p.mask
> repoman with a link to the guide that Matt will need to write about
> how repoman is being replaced.
We should distinguish between deprecating the repoman(-only) workflow
and
On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 10:25:19 -0800
Alec Warner wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 9:14 AM Peter Stuge wrote:
> >
> > Matt Turner wrote:
> > > repoman is inferior to other tooling mentioned. The other tooling
> > > is actually run in CI.
> >
> > The problem seems to be that CI is running
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 9:14 AM Peter Stuge wrote:
>
> Matt Turner wrote:
> > repoman is inferior to other tooling mentioned. The other tooling is
> > actually run in CI.
>
> The problem seems to be that CI is running something other than
> developers run, not the other way around.
>
>
> >
Matt Turner wrote:
> repoman is inferior to other tooling mentioned. The other tooling is
> actually run in CI.
The problem seems to be that CI is running something other than
developers run, not the other way around.
> Developers should get the same warnings locally as in CI.
I agree. And
On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 12:07:40 -0600
William Hubbs wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 09:29:59AM -0800, Matt Turner wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:09 PM Joonas Niilola
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9.3.2022 23.00, Matt Turner wrote:
> > > > I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman.
Ühel kenal päeval, N, 10.03.2022 kell 18:18, kirjutas Joshua Kinard:
> I stick to the officially-published method of checking and committing
> changes:
> https://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-maintenance/git/index.html
>
> The two tools highlighted there for the bulk of the work is repoman
> and
On 3/10/2022 14:58, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:27 AM Joshua Kinard wrote:
>>
>> On 3/9/2022 16:00, Matt Turner wrote:
>>> I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
>>> dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts)
>>> are far
> On 10 Mar 2022, at 21:57, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>>
>> I'd be interested in hearing your workflow, so we can capture it in
>> the table (mentioned earlier) so its clear how your existing workflow
>> will work with the new tools (or perhaps there is a gap, or we need to
>> craft / add
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 04:53:10PM -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote:
> On 3/10/2022 14:44, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I wouldn't block anyone from doing this, but it's not something I'm
> >>> personally interested in pursuing. I see very little value here.
> >>
> >> First, you're trying to
On 3/10/2022 14:59, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:28 AM Joshua Kinard wrote:
>>
>> On 3/9/2022 16:47, Matt Turner wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:37 PM Matthias Maier wrote:
Just a quick though:
Looking at the man page of repoman it doesn't look to
On 3/10/2022 14:44, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>>>
>>> I wouldn't block anyone from doing this, but it's not something I'm
>>> personally interested in pursuing. I see very little value here.
>>
>> First, you're trying to justify replacing repoman on an entirely subjective
>> opinion of "I think
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:28 AM Joshua Kinard wrote:
>
> On 3/9/2022 16:47, Matt Turner wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:37 PM Matthias Maier wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Just a quick though:
> >>
> >> Looking at the man page of repoman it doesn't look to difficult to
> >> replicate the behavior
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:27 AM Joshua Kinard wrote:
>
> On 3/9/2022 16:00, Matt Turner wrote:
> > I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
> > dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts)
> > are far superior replacements, and it makes sense
> >
> > I wouldn't block anyone from doing this, but it's not something I'm
> > personally interested in pursuing. I see very little value here.
>
> First, you're trying to justify replacing repoman on an entirely subjective
> opinion of "I think is superior" ...
Well, if you've ever tried it
On 3/9/2022 16:47, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:37 PM Matthias Maier wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just a quick though:
>>
>> Looking at the man page of repoman it doesn't look to difficult to
>> replicate the behavior with pkgcheck. Meaning, we could think of
>> creating a drop-in replacement
On 3/9/2022 16:00, Matt Turner wrote:
> I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
> dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts)
> are far superior replacements, and it makes sense to have people using
> the same tool and seeing the same warnings
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:07:40PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 09:29:59AM -0800, Matt Turner wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:09 PM Joonas Niilola wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9.3.2022 23.00, Matt Turner wrote:
> > > > I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 09:29:59AM -0800, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:09 PM Joonas Niilola wrote:
> >
> > On 9.3.2022 23.00, Matt Turner wrote:
> > > I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
> > > dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:09 PM Joonas Niilola wrote:
>
> On 9.3.2022 23.00, Matt Turner wrote:
> > I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
> > dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts)
> > are far superior replacements, and it makes sense
On 9.3.2022 23.00, Matt Turner wrote:
> I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
> dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts)
> are far superior replacements, and it makes sense to have people using
> the same tool and seeing the same warnings
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 4:18 PM Matthias Maier wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022, at 17:32 CST, Matt Turner wrote:
>
> > I think you just made that number up :)
>
> Nah. My sample was just bad (ago just made a sizable number of commits.
>
> I would estimate the current usage of repoman to be
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022, at 17:32 CST, Matt Turner wrote:
> I think you just made that number up :)
Nah. My sample was just bad (ago just made a sizable number of commits.
I would estimate the current usage of repoman to be about 20-25%, down
from well over 80-90% back when we just switched to
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 2:34 PM Matthias Maier wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022, at 15:47 CST, Matt Turner wrote:
>
> > [...]
> >
> > I wouldn't block anyone from doing this, but it's not something I'm
> > personally interested in pursuing. I see very little value here.
>
> I did not intend to
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022, at 15:47 CST, Matt Turner wrote:
> [...]
>
> I wouldn't block anyone from doing this, but it's not something I'm
> personally interested in pursuing. I see very little value here.
I did not intend to imply that you should do anything.
I just want to point out that we had
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:37 PM Matthias Maier wrote:
>
>
> Just a quick though:
>
> Looking at the man page of repoman it doesn't look to difficult to
> replicate the behavior with pkgcheck. Meaning, we could think of
> creating a drop-in replacement for "repoman [full]" (which would just
> call
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:32 PM Brian Evans wrote:
>
> On 3/9/2022 4:28 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:27 PM Maciej Barć wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are there any useful checks or behaviors of repoman that are missing
> >>> from pkgcheck and pkgcommit?
> >>
> >> Fixing ebuild copyright
Just a quick though:
Looking at the man page of repoman it doesn't look to difficult to
replicate the behavior with pkgcheck. Meaning, we could think of
creating a drop-in replacement for "repoman [full]" (which would just
call pkgcheck) and "repoman commit" which actually does much more than
On 3/9/2022 4:28 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:27 PM Maciej Barć wrote:
Are there any useful checks or behaviors of repoman that are missing
from pkgcheck and pkgcommit?
Fixing ebuild copyright date is the first one that comes to mind.
pkgcommit does this.
I highly
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:27 PM Maciej Barć wrote:
>
> > Are there any useful checks or behaviors of repoman that are missing
> > from pkgcheck and pkgcommit?
>
> Fixing ebuild copyright date is the first one that comes to mind.
pkgcommit does this.
Are there any useful checks or behaviors of repoman that are missing
from pkgcheck and pkgcommit?
Fixing ebuild copyright date is the first one that comes to mind.
On 3/9/22 10:00 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
dev-util/pkgcheck and
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 01:00:37PM -0800, Matt Turner wrote:
> I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
> dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts)
There's also dev-util/pkgdev as an alternative to pkgcommit with more
features for those that
On 3/9/2022 4:00 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that
dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts)
are far superior replacements, and it makes sense to have people using
the same tool and seeing the same warnings as
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:15 PM Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 4:00 PM Matt Turner wrote:
> >
> > Are there any useful checks or behaviors of repoman that are missing
> > from pkgcheck and pkgcommit?
>
> Would it make sense to package pkgcommit or otherwise stick it
> somewhere
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 4:00 PM Matt Turner wrote:
>
> Are there any useful checks or behaviors of repoman that are missing
> from pkgcheck and pkgcommit?
Would it make sense to package pkgcommit or otherwise stick it
somewhere official? I know there is a copy on mgorny's github
repo/blog, but
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