Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-18 Thread Hanno Böck
Am Samstag, 5. August 2006 02:11 schrieb Kevin F. Quinn: I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. I'm all for making more use of features like test and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Saturday 05 August 2006 11:05, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:18:40 -0400 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give me some numbers on how many things still fail with that enabled because I would be concerned if the number is too high. I don't have numbers, but if you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Saturday 05 August 2006 18:07, Tim Yamin wrote: Agreed. It may be better to instead have a FORCE=test on certain ebuilds (mainly sci-* stuff where you want to be sure the numbers are coming out correctly) -- adding FEATURES=test to the default set will cause serious breakage and will take

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:18:40 -0400 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give me some numbers on how many things still fail with that enabled because I would be concerned if the number is too high. I don't have numbers, but if you have FEATURES=test set yourself you should know how many fail.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:39:16 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag, 5. August 2006 02:11 schrieb Kevin F. Quinn: At the very least, ebuild maintainers and ATs should be running with tests switched on. If the tests are known to fail then the ebuild can either

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:25:17 -0700 Joshua Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree that it would be nice to see more people using test and collision-protect I don't think its something we should enable at this point in time till we have many packages working correctly with the feature.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Samstag, 5. August 2006 11:19 schrieb Kevin F. Quinn: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:39:16 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Samstag, 5. August 2006 02:11 schrieb Kevin F. Quinn: At the very least, ebuild maintainers and ATs should be running with tests switched on. If the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf * gettext * tar That makes _4_ system packages. Before I would consider making FEATURES=test a default, I would add least want the system

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Sascha Geschwandtner
Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if anyone is interested in my opinion, but I'll dump it on you anyway. :-) IMO devs should be working with collision-protect sandbox strict stricter test userpriv but let's not get too excited ;) ACK. I also agree with the general idea to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:14:17 +0200 Sascha Geschwandtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So right now, I'd like to see collision-protect sandbox strict included in the default FEATUREs. sandbox and strict are already default for a long time. Marius -- Public Key at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Sascha Geschwandtner
Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sandbox and strict are already default for a long time. Not in the selinux profiles (sandbox is missing there). Regarding strict, I just found out it's in the base profile, so you are of course correct. But maybe I'm overlooking something else. Well, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Sascha Geschwandtner
Sascha Geschwandtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not in the selinux profiles (sandbox is missing there). No, I'm wrong here either. Sorry for the noise. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 12:57 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf * gettext * tar That makes _4_ system packages. Before I would consider

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Marius Mauch wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:14:17 +0200 Sascha Geschwandtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So right now, I'd like to see collision-protect sandbox strict included in the default FEATUREs. sandbox and strict are already default for a long time. Not 100% true. Sandbox has been

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 09:29:48 -0400 Stephen P. Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:14:17 +0200 Sascha Geschwandtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So right now, I'd like to see collision-protect sandbox strict included in the default FEATUREs.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Tim Yamin
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 02:26:16AM +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. Sure everyone likes to watch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 09:29, Stephen P. Becker wrote: P.S. Note that we have offered various portage devs hardware and/or an account on Iluxa's ginormous Origin 2000 machine in the past with the intention of getting this fixed, and nobody has taken us up on that... so ? none of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 06:57, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf * gettext * tar That makes _4_ system packages. Before I would consider making

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 02:35:49PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 06:57, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf * gettext

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 09:29, Stephen P. Becker wrote: P.S. Note that we have offered various portage devs hardware and/or an account on Iluxa's ginormous Origin 2000 machine in the past with the intention of getting this fixed, and nobody has taken us up on that...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 14:35:49 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 06:57, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf *

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 14:56, Stephen P. Becker wrote: The metadata for sandbox suggests that it is under the control of the portage team, even if they lack a herd: ... because it is tightly integrated with portage ... there is the aspects of portage which require some sandbox env

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 14:48, Harald van Dijk wrote: Then RESTRICT=test, or use a src_test which warns on test failures rather than aborting, could be used. Or am I missing something? some architectures pass fine my [hidden] point was that globally enabling/disabling FEATURES=test isnt a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 14:56, Stephen P. Becker wrote: The metadata for sandbox suggests that it is under the control of the portage team, even if they lack a herd: ... because it is tightly integrated with portage ... there is the aspects of portage which require

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 August 2006 16:07, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Of course I know this, and it sucks. If sandbox is so tightly integrated with portage, then why *isn't* there a portage team member who works on sandbox? because portage requires deep knowledge in python/bash sandbox requires deep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Ned Ludd
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 16:07 -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 14:56, Stephen P. Becker wrote: The metadata for sandbox suggests that it is under the control of the portage team, even if they lack a herd: ... because it is tightly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 02:11:58 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the | default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too | many packages fail their test phase. Paludis does this. It's nice in theory.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Alec Warner
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. Since we encourage users to set CFLAGS in ways that upstream may not have predicted, if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. Since we encourage users to set CFLAGS in ways

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Jakub Moc
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too many packages fail their test phase. Sure everyone likes to watch glibc failing? :P /joke Well, can't be done until bugs such as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-04 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Samstag, 5. August 2006 02:11 schrieb Kevin F. Quinn: At the very least, ebuild maintainers and ATs should be running with tests switched on. If the tests are known to fail then the ebuild can either RESTRICT=test, or just return successfully from src_test() where the test report is useful