Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-11-17 Thread Corentin Chary
 Right, having a stable API and a special euscan tag on the wiki could
 solve that.


Speeking of API, I found some time to play with django-piston this
week, and here is the result:

- http://euscan.iksaif.net/about/api

Some examples:
- http://euscan.iksaif.net/api/1.0/packages/by-maintainer/1.json
- http://euscan.iksaif.net/api/1.0/packages/by-herd/openoffice.json
- http://euscan.iksaif.net/api/1.0/packages/by-category/app-office.xml
- http://euscan.iksaif.net/api/1.0/package/app-office/libreoffice-bin.json


-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-26 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 10:00 +0200, Corentin Chary wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org wrote:

  One integration that might also be useful is what we track on the ruby
  wiki currently: https://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/ruby/wiki/PendingBumps
  which is a collection of quick notes on problems encountered while
  bumping packages. The ability to attach notes to packages and to
  acknowledge version bumps (and e.g. make them yellow instead of red)
  could help with larger lists for herds.

 You can already use that page: http://euscan.iksaif.net/herds/ruby/

I think you missed my point. This page is more like what we have at
http://moving-innovations.com/~graaff/outdated-gems/ which is an
automated list based on what is in the tree and upstream. Your page is a
good replacement for that so we may just use that in the future.

What our wiki page does it keep *notes* on these bumps, so all of that
relies on manual input. (e.g. we tried to bump this but it needs a new
dependency that we don't have yet.) The euscan page doesn't support
that yet. Arguably I should open bugs for each of these bumps, but that
seems like a lot of overhead for some quick notes.

Kind regards,

Hans


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-25 Thread Corentin Chary
 Open a bug, attach your ebuilds ( are there any releases besides the
 git code? ) and I will take it from there

 Here it is: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=383937
 There are no released version, and the project have no homepage
 (except http://euscan.iksaif.net).

euscan ebuild is now in portage,
Thanks Markos !

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http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-21 Thread Corentin Chary
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep     , Corentin Chary wrote:
 Could someone write ebuilds for euscan and euscanwww ? It should not
 take a lot of time, but my ebuilds skills are probably not good
 enought to do that.

 Sounds like good practice for when you become a Gentoo dev. =)

Hehe :). Maybe someday, but honestly I don't have any time right now
to fill the quizz seriously.

Anyway, here is an ebuild for euscan:
http://git.iksaif.net/?p=portage.git;a=blob;f=app-portage/euscan/euscan-.ebuild;h=760f3ad025a009e3c336b1e7b08b31b72b6fec1f;hb=45b37c438f3cc20325d03ada666834b9db53d7b1
for those who want to test.
Writing one for euscanwww is probably less interesting since anyway
you'll have to configure most of it by hand (database, cron, etc..)
and it's clearly not something more than 2-3 people will install.

-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-21 Thread Markos Chandras
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On 09/21/11 11:57, Corentin Chary wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Donnie Berkholz
 dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep , Corentin Chary wrote:
 Could someone write ebuilds for euscan and euscanwww ? It
 should not take a lot of time, but my ebuilds skills are
 probably not good enought to do that.
 
 Sounds like good practice for when you become a Gentoo dev. =)
 
 Hehe :). Maybe someday, but honestly I don't have any time right
 now to fill the quizz seriously.
 
 Anyway, here is an ebuild for euscan: 
 http://git.iksaif.net/?p=portage.git;a=blob;f=app-portage/euscan/euscan-.ebuild;h=760f3ad025a009e3c336b1e7b08b31b72b6fec1f;hb=45b37c438f3cc20325d03ada666834b9db53d7b1

 
for those who want to test.
 Writing one for euscanwww is probably less interesting since
 anyway you'll have to configure most of it by hand (database, cron,
 etc..) and it's clearly not something more than 2-3 people will
 install.
 
Hi,

Open a bug, attach your ebuilds ( are there any releases besides the
git code? ) and I will take it from there

- -- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-21 Thread Corentin Chary
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
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 On 09/21/11 11:57, Corentin Chary wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Donnie Berkholz
 dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep     , Corentin Chary wrote:
 Could someone write ebuilds for euscan and euscanwww ? It
 should not take a lot of time, but my ebuilds skills are
 probably not good enought to do that.

 Sounds like good practice for when you become a Gentoo dev. =)

 Hehe :). Maybe someday, but honestly I don't have any time right
 now to fill the quizz seriously.

 Anyway, here is an ebuild for euscan:
 http://git.iksaif.net/?p=portage.git;a=blob;f=app-portage/euscan/euscan-.ebuild;h=760f3ad025a009e3c336b1e7b08b31b72b6fec1f;hb=45b37c438f3cc20325d03ada666834b9db53d7b1


 for those who want to test.
 Writing one for euscanwww is probably less interesting since
 anyway you'll have to configure most of it by hand (database, cron,
 etc..) and it's clearly not something more than 2-3 people will
 install.

 Hi,

 Open a bug, attach your ebuilds ( are there any releases besides the
 git code? ) and I will take it from there

Here it is: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=383937
There are no released version, and the project have no homepage
(except http://euscan.iksaif.net).
 Thanks,

-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-20 Thread Corentin Chary
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 15:41 +0200, Corentin Chary wrote:
 Hi,

 some news about euscan (still available at http://euscan.iksaif.net)

 - New design (yay !)
 - Atom feeds available for each herd/category/maintainer/package
 (http://euscan.iksaif.net/maintainers/59/feed/)
 - Specific handlers for PyPi, RubyGems, pecl and PEAR packages (check
 http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=tree;f=pym/euscan/handlers;h=9a995dfcebe6beecce71851abb84a875cf6e5979;hb=HEAD
 ).

 Now, maybe we should find a way to integrate that with the GSoC
 statistic project and with http://packages.gentoo.org/ (like done at
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php-net-ipv4.html ). A quick way would
 be to host euscan on a gentoo server, and add some webservices to
 publish the data in json or xml, then packages.gentoo.org and others
 could parse that and display it.

 One integration that might also be useful is what we track on the ruby
 wiki currently: https://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/ruby/wiki/PendingBumps
 which is a collection of quick notes on problems encountered while
 bumping packages. The ability to attach notes to packages and to
 acknowledge version bumps (and e.g. make them yellow instead of red)
 could help with larger lists for herds.

 Kind regards,

 Hans


Yep,
You can already use that page: http://euscan.iksaif.net/herds/ruby/
And ruby packages are well tracked by euscan thanks to the rubygem
site handler, see how it helped to find new upstream versions while
http://euscan.iksaif.net/herds/ruby/charts/versions-monthly.png

Could someone write ebuilds for euscan and euscanwww ? It should not
take a lot of time, but my ebuilds skills are probably not good
enought to do that.

Thanks,

-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep , Corentin Chary wrote:
 Could someone write ebuilds for euscan and euscanwww ? It should not 
 take a lot of time, but my ebuilds skills are probably not good 
 enought to do that.

Sounds like good practice for when you become a Gentoo dev. =)

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Council Member / Sr. Developer
Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.com


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-19 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 15:41 +0200, Corentin Chary wrote:
 Hi,
 
 some news about euscan (still available at http://euscan.iksaif.net)
 
 - New design (yay !)
 - Atom feeds available for each herd/category/maintainer/package
 (http://euscan.iksaif.net/maintainers/59/feed/)
 - Specific handlers for PyPi, RubyGems, pecl and PEAR packages (check
 http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=tree;f=pym/euscan/handlers;h=9a995dfcebe6beecce71851abb84a875cf6e5979;hb=HEAD
 ).
 
 Now, maybe we should find a way to integrate that with the GSoC
 statistic project and with http://packages.gentoo.org/ (like done at
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php-net-ipv4.html ). A quick way would
 be to host euscan on a gentoo server, and add some webservices to
 publish the data in json or xml, then packages.gentoo.org and others
 could parse that and display it.

One integration that might also be useful is what we track on the ruby
wiki currently: https://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/ruby/wiki/PendingBumps
which is a collection of quick notes on problems encountered while
bumping packages. The ability to attach notes to packages and to
acknowledge version bumps (and e.g. make them yellow instead of red)
could help with larger lists for herds.

Kind regards,

Hans


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-07 Thread Corentin Chary
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi again,

 Found a little problem: it's not finding a newer version of
 wireless-regdb, which uses a date-based versioning system. If euscan
 tried to view/parse the directory index where the distfiles are
 located, it would find this new file.

 http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/net-wireless/wireless-regdb/

Hi,
If you try to run euscan on that, you'll get:

  * Url doesn't seems to depend on version: 20101124 not found in 
 http://wireless.kernel.org/download/wireless-regdb/wireless-regdb-2010.11.24.tar.bz2

What's happenning here is that the version can be found in the url, so
even a directory scan won't find anything because it won't be able to
match files.
It would work correctly if the version was 2010.11.24 or the file was
named wireless-regdb-20101124.tar.bz2.

Unfortunatly, making that work would probably introduce a lot of false
positive in other cases.

Thanks,

-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-07 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:32:30 +0200
Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org
 wrote:
  On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Corentin Chary
  corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi again,
 
  Found a little problem: it's not finding a newer version of
  wireless-regdb, which uses a date-based versioning system. If euscan
  tried to view/parse the directory index where the distfiles are
  located, it would find this new file.
 
  http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/net-wireless/wireless-regdb/
 
 Hi,
 If you try to run euscan on that, you'll get:
 
   * Url doesn't seems to depend on version: 20101124 not found in
  http://wireless.kernel.org/download/wireless-regdb/wireless-regdb-2010.11.24.tar.bz2
 
 What's happenning here is that the version can be found in the url, so
 even a directory scan won't find anything because it won't be able to
 match files.
 It would work correctly if the version was 2010.11.24 or the file was
 named wireless-regdb-20101124.tar.bz2.
 
 Unfortunatly, making that work would probably introduce a lot of false
 positive in other cases.

To be honest, you should be possible to preset PN, PV and other ebuild
variables and run the ebuild afterwards to see what SRC_URI it gives.
But that's a significant amount of work.

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Michał Górny


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-06 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi again,

Found a little problem: it's not finding a newer version of
wireless-regdb, which uses a date-based versioning system. If euscan
tried to view/parse the directory index where the distfiles are
located, it would find this new file.

http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/net-wireless/wireless-regdb/

Matt



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-01 Thread Alex Legler
On Wednesday 31 August 2011 15:41:51 Corentin Chary wrote:
 Hi,
 
 some news about euscan (still available at http://euscan.iksaif.net)
 
 - New design (yay !)

Glad you like it. Be sure to credit where you got it from, though.

-- 
Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org
Gentoo Security / Ruby

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-01 Thread Corentin Chary
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On Wednesday 31 August 2011 15:41:51 Corentin Chary wrote:
 Hi,

 some news about euscan (still available at http://euscan.iksaif.net)

 - New design (yay !)

 Glad you like it. Be sure to credit where you got it from, though.

Sorry, that was done in the dev version, but I forgot to push it
(http://euscan.iksaif.net/about/).
Thanks,

-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-01 Thread Tomáš Chvátal

Dne 1.9.2011 09:44, Corentin Chary napsal(a):

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Alex Leglera...@gentoo.org  wrote:

On Wednesday 31 August 2011 15:41:51 Corentin Chary wrote:

Hi,

some news about euscan (still available at http://euscan.iksaif.net)

- New design (yay !)


Glad you like it. Be sure to credit where you got it from, though.


Sorry, that was done in the dev version, but I forgot to push it
(http://euscan.iksaif.net/about/).
Thanks,

So now we just need to put this onto gentoo infrastructure and make you 
dev :P


Btw I have feature request, could it remember the sorting method i set?
(so I don't have to click and reorder it every time i refresh)

Cheers

Tom



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-01 Thread Corentin Chary
 Btw I have feature request, could it remember the sorting method i set?
 (so I don't have to click and reorder it every time i refresh)

 Per-page or globally ?

-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-01 Thread Tomáš Chvátal

Dne 1.9.2011 09:55, Corentin Chary napsal(a):

Btw I have feature request, could it remember the sorting method i set?
(so I don't have to click and reorder it every time i refresh)


  Per-page or globally ?


I would say globaly i smore sane here

Tom



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-01 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:41:51 +0200
Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Specific handlers for PyPi, RubyGems, pecl and PEAR packages (check
 http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=tree;f=pym/euscan/handlers;h=9a995dfcebe6beecce71851abb84a875cf6e5979;hb=HEAD
 ).

AFAICS that specific handlers are required to grab a list of versions.
Is it or will it be possible to add a kind of semi-handlers which would
just grab a list of all URIs (e.g. on github project) and let euscan
match them with SRC_URI?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-01 Thread Corentin Chary
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 15:41:51 +0200
 Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Specific handlers for PyPi, RubyGems, pecl and PEAR packages (check
 http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=tree;f=pym/euscan/handlers;h=9a995dfcebe6beecce71851abb84a875cf6e5979;hb=HEAD
 ).

 AFAICS that specific handlers are required to grab a list of versions.
 Is it or will it be possible to add a kind of semi-handlers which would
 just grab a list of all URIs (e.g. on github project) and let euscan
 match them with SRC_URI?

Yep, it's possible, you can do some specific stuff and import
functions from euscan.helpers for euscan.handlers.generic to do a
generic scan, then return a correct list of version.

-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-01 Thread Corentin Chary
2011/9/1 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org:
 Dne 1.9.2011 09:55, Corentin Chary napsal(a):

 Btw I have feature request, could it remember the sorting method i set?
 (so I don't have to click and reorder it every time i refresh)

  Per-page or globally ?

 I would say globaly i smore sane here

I did that per-page, as it was only one  line to add, I'll try to do
it globally later.

-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-01 Thread Corentin Chary
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Corentin Chary
corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 some news about euscan (still available at http://euscan.iksaif.net)

 - New design (yay !)
 - Atom feeds available for each herd/category/maintainer/package
 (http://euscan.iksaif.net/maintainers/59/feed/)
 - Specific handlers for PyPi, RubyGems, pecl and PEAR packages (check
 http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=tree;f=pym/euscan/handlers;h=9a995dfcebe6beecce71851abb84a875cf6e5979;hb=HEAD
 ).

A quick example of what a custom site handler can bring (rubygems
here): http://euscan.iksaif.net/categories/dev-ruby/charts/versions-weekly.png
:)

 Now, maybe we should find a way to integrate that with the GSoC
 statistic project and with http://packages.gentoo.org/ (like done at
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php-net-ipv4.html ). A quick way would
 be to host euscan on a gentoo server, and add some webservices to
 publish the data in json or xml, then packages.gentoo.org and others
 could parse that and display it.

 Thanks,

 --
 Corentin Chary
 http://xf.iksaif.net




-- 
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http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-08-31 Thread Corentin Chary
Hi,

some news about euscan (still available at http://euscan.iksaif.net)

- New design (yay !)
- Atom feeds available for each herd/category/maintainer/package
(http://euscan.iksaif.net/maintainers/59/feed/)
- Specific handlers for PyPi, RubyGems, pecl and PEAR packages (check
http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=tree;f=pym/euscan/handlers;h=9a995dfcebe6beecce71851abb84a875cf6e5979;hb=HEAD
).

Now, maybe we should find a way to integrate that with the GSoC
statistic project and with http://packages.gentoo.org/ (like done at
http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php-net-ipv4.html ). A quick way would
be to host euscan on a gentoo server, and add some webservices to
publish the data in json or xml, then packages.gentoo.org and others
could parse that and display it.

Thanks,

-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-08-31 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Corentin Chary
corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 some news about euscan (still available at http://euscan.iksaif.net)

 - New design (yay !)
 - Atom feeds available for each herd/category/maintainer/package
 (http://euscan.iksaif.net/maintainers/59/feed/)
 - Specific handlers for PyPi, RubyGems, pecl and PEAR packages (check
 http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=tree;f=pym/euscan/handlers;h=9a995dfcebe6beecce71851abb84a875cf6e5979;hb=HEAD
 ).

 Now, maybe we should find a way to integrate that with the GSoC
 statistic project and with http://packages.gentoo.org/ (like done at
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php-net-ipv4.html ). A quick way would
 be to host euscan on a gentoo server, and add some webservices to
 publish the data in json or xml, then packages.gentoo.org and others
 could parse that and display it.

The Gentoostats app supports fetching data with json (just put 'json'
in the HTTP_ACCEPT header in your GET.

-A


 Thanks,

 --
 Corentin Chary
 http://xf.iksaif.net





Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-05-05 Thread Corentin Chary
New dynamic charts:

- http://euscan.iksaif.net/maintainers/2/charts/versions-weekly.png
- 
http://euscan.iksaif.net/categories/app-accessibility/charts/packages-weekly.png
- 
http://euscan.iksaif.net/categories/app-accessibility/charts/packages-weekly-small.png

Feel free to use them in a plasma-applet, or whatever you want !



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-05-05 Thread Patrick Nagel
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Hi Corentin,

On 2011-05-05 23:54, Corentin Chary wrote:
 New dynamic charts:
 
 - http://euscan.iksaif.net/maintainers/2/charts/versions-weekly.png
 - 
 http://euscan.iksaif.net/categories/app-accessibility/charts/packages-weekly.png
 - 
 http://euscan.iksaif.net/categories/app-accessibility/charts/packages-weekly-small.png
 
 Feel free to use them in a plasma-applet, or whatever you want !

I just wanted to thank you for your work on euscan, it's a great tool.

Patrick.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-05-02 Thread Corentin Chary
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Corentin Chary
corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/4/27 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org:
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 Dne 27.4.2011 10:04, Corentin Chary napsal(a):
 I updated http://euscan.iksaif.net yesterday.

 I also added some overlays, and I now use local portage portage trees
 instead of system trees (a script to do that is available in
 euscanwww/script).

 New features:
 - Handle overlays correctly (special column for overlays)
 - Add some charts (small bar charts in table, pies at the bottom)
 - Less false positives with euscan

 I'll try to add all time line charts this week.

 Thanks,
 Found another issue, package stays there even if it was removed from the
 portage tree (kde-misc/plasmaboard is a good example).

 Good catch, I'll add a --purge option to scan-portage.

Done, 
http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=commitdiff;h=120ae425af82061fee4e0d7f18104595c551a144;hp=244e7d64fdc6ddeb31ad54dfcc415c50672bdebb


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-28 Thread Corentin Chary
2011/4/27 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org:
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 Dne 27.4.2011 10:04, Corentin Chary napsal(a):
 I updated http://euscan.iksaif.net yesterday.

 I also added some overlays, and I now use local portage portage trees
 instead of system trees (a script to do that is available in
 euscanwww/script).

 New features:
 - Handle overlays correctly (special column for overlays)
 - Add some charts (small bar charts in table, pies at the bottom)
 - Less false positives with euscan

 I'll try to add all time line charts this week.

 Thanks,
 Found another issue, package stays there even if it was removed from the
 portage tree (kde-misc/plasmaboard is a good example).

Good catch, I'll add a --purge option to scan-portage.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-27 Thread Corentin Chary
I updated http://euscan.iksaif.net yesterday.

I also added some overlays, and I now use local portage portage trees
instead of system trees (a script to do that is available in
euscanwww/script).

New features:
- Handle overlays correctly (special column for overlays)
- Add some charts (small bar charts in table, pies at the bottom)
- Less false positives with euscan

I'll try to add all time line charts this week.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-27 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
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Dne 27.4.2011 10:04, Corentin Chary napsal(a):
 I updated http://euscan.iksaif.net yesterday.
 
 I also added some overlays, and I now use local portage portage trees
 instead of system trees (a script to do that is available in
 euscanwww/script).
 
 New features:
 - Handle overlays correctly (special column for overlays)
 - Add some charts (small bar charts in table, pies at the bottom)
 - Less false positives with euscan
 
 I'll try to add all time line charts this week.
 
 Thanks,
Found another issue, package stays there even if it was removed from the
portage tree (kde-misc/plasmaboard is a good example).

Cheers

Tom
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-20 Thread Corentin Chary
2011/4/19 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org:
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 Dne 16.4.2011 08:29, Corentin Chary napsal(a):
 New website is up and running at

 http://euscan.iksaif.net/

 The git tree is still at http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=summary

 TODO:
 - Make some charts to see how it's going
 - Finish the scan my world feature
 - Add a way to subsribe to herds/maintainer/packages in order to
 receive weekly/monthly reports

 I'll gladly accept any patch ! :)

 Hello found another issue,

 http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/media-video/kmplayer/

 0.11.2c IS newer than 0.11.2 :)

 Cheers

Should be fixed this evening. I'll now use portage.vercmp() by
default, and fallback to pkg_resources.
Thanks for the report.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-19 Thread Corentin Chary
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 15:48 Mon 18 Apr     , Corentin Chary wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org 
 wrote:
  - Another useful thing would be a way to supply CPV tokens for any
   unstable upstream series that we'll never add to the tree.

 There is already some kind of blacklist in euscan. Could you provide
 examples so I can implement that ?

 Sorry, forgot about this bit. I'm just talking about standard package
 tokens, the same kind used in package.mask or wherever:

 =x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.14.90*
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.10.900

I'll try to implement that,
Thanks for the suggestion.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-19 Thread Corentin Chary
 The list is missing amarok-2.4.0.90. You need to look both on stable and
 unstable trees to find all versions.
 ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/amarok/2.4.0.90/src

Hum, it's hard to guess the unstable url from the stable one
automatically. But maybe a custom site handler for ftp.kde.org would
do it.

 http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/dev-db/mariadb/

 You're missing quite a few versions of mariadb. They can be found in the
 official mysql overlay (
 http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/mysql.git;a=tree;f=dev-db/mariadb
 )

I'll add some officials overlay soon.

 http://downloads.askmonty.org/mariadb/5.1/
 http://downloads.askmonty.org/mariadb/5.2/

The 5.2 is hard to find, because all mirrors redirect to
http://downloads.askmonty.org/mariadb/; when trying to list the top
directory. And I can't guess the version from this page.

Brute force would be able to find it, if 5.2.0 archive was still available.

 http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/dev-db/mysql/

 You're missing many of the new releases of mysql.

MySQL case may be easier to deal with than MariaDB;

I added these to my TODO. I'll try to find a generic way, but I don't
know if there is really one.

Thanks !
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-19 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:47, Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Better, what about a per-herd/per-maintainer rss feed ?

This is what I'd most want, would be very cool to have.

Perhaps it would be possible for some classes of packages to fine-tune
the algorithm, e.g. check PyPI for Python things, PECL for PHP things,
etc.

Cheers,

Dirkjan



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-19 Thread Corentin Chary
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:47, Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Better, what about a per-herd/per-maintainer rss feed ?

 This is what I'd most want, would be very cool to have.

 Perhaps it would be possible for some classes of packages to fine-tune
 the algorithm, e.g. check PyPI for Python things, PECL for PHP things,
 etc.


Thanks,
Added to TODO, but if you got some time, feel free to give it a try :).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-19 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
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Dne 16.4.2011 08:29, Corentin Chary napsal(a):
 New website is up and running at
 
 http://euscan.iksaif.net/
 
 The git tree is still at http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=summary
 
 TODO:
 - Make some charts to see how it's going
 - Finish the scan my world feature
 - Add a way to subsribe to herds/maintainer/packages in order to
 receive weekly/monthly reports
 
 I'll gladly accept any patch ! :)
 
Hello found another issue,

http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/media-video/kmplayer/

0.11.2c IS newer than 0.11.2 :)

Cheers

Tom
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Marijn
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Hi Corentin,

On 04/16/11 08:29, Corentin Chary wrote:
 New website is up and running at
 
 http://euscan.iksaif.net/
 
 The git tree is still at http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=summary
 
 TODO:
 - Make some charts to see how it's going
 - Finish the scan my world feature
 - Add a way to subsribe to herds/maintainer/packages in order to
 receive weekly/monthly reports
 
 I'll gladly accept any patch ! :)

Nice work!

Marijn
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Corentin Chary
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Marijn hk...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Nice work!

Thanks !

Fyi: I ran a new scan this morning. It only took 3 hours !

GNU's Parallel is really a great tool:
`python manage.py list-packages | gparallel --eta --progress --jobs
400% euscan | python manage.py scan-upstream --feed  /dev/null`

I'll try to implement charts as soon as I've got enought data.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 06:29 Sat 16 Apr , Corentin Chary wrote:
 New website is up and running at
 
 http://euscan.iksaif.net/
 
 The git tree is still at http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=summary
 
 TODO:
 - Make some charts to see how it's going
 - Finish the scan my world feature
 - Add a way to subsribe to herds/maintainer/packages in order to
 receive weekly/monthly reports
 
 I'll gladly accept any patch ! :)

This is cool! I just looked through the x11-team packages and it seems 
very useful already. I have a few suggestions if you have time. =)

- Some teams have official overlays. Supporting those as an additional 
  source of ebuilds would be pretty nice.

- Another useful thing would be a way to supply CPV tokens for any 
  unstable upstream series that we'll never add to the tree.

- This looks like a problem (a versioned tarball named cairo-5c):
  http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/x11-libs/cairo/


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Corentin Chary
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 06:29 Sat 16 Apr     , Corentin Chary wrote:
 New website is up and running at

 http://euscan.iksaif.net/

 The git tree is still at http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=summary

 TODO:
 - Make some charts to see how it's going
 - Finish the scan my world feature
 - Add a way to subsribe to herds/maintainer/packages in order to
 receive weekly/monthly reports

 I'll gladly accept any patch ! :)

 This is cool! I just looked through the x11-team packages and it seems
 very useful already. I have a few suggestions if you have time. =)

 - Some teams have official overlays. Supporting those as an additional
  source of ebuilds would be pretty nice.

I'll just checkout these trees on my machine (and only enable them for euscan).
euscan use portage, gentoolkit and eix internaly, so overlays are not
a problem :).

Where could I get a list of official overlays that should be added ?

 - Another useful thing would be a way to supply CPV tokens for any
  unstable upstream series that we'll never add to the tree.

There is already some kind of blacklist in euscan. Could you provide
examples so I can implement that ?

 - This looks like a problem (a versioned tarball named cairo-5c):
  http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/x11-libs/cairo/

Hum ... yes, I'll try to use better regex :).

Thanks !
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Corentin Chary schrieb am 18.04.2011 11:05:

 Fyi: I ran a new scan this morning. It only took 3 hours !
 
 GNU's Parallel is really a great tool:
 `python manage.py list-packages | gparallel --eta --progress --jobs
 400% euscan | python manage.py scan-upstream --feed  /dev/null`
 
 I'll try to implement charts as soon as I've got enought data.

I really like it. Keep up the good work. It gives a warm and fuzzy
feeling if there are no unpackaged releases for the own packages :)

There is one issue I recognized. How do you get the links for the
unpackaged upstream versions and do you verify if the listed tarballs
exist? I am asking because for app-editors/bluefish [1] there are eleven
unpackaged versions listed but only sources for the three 2.0.3 releases
exist and there are no releases for 2.1.x and 2.2.x.

http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/app-editors/bluefish/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Corentin Chary
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Corentin Chary
corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On 06:29 Sat 16 Apr     , Corentin Chary wrote:
 New website is up and running at

 http://euscan.iksaif.net/

 The git tree is still at http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=summary

 TODO:
 - Make some charts to see how it's going
 - Finish the scan my world feature
 - Add a way to subsribe to herds/maintainer/packages in order to
 receive weekly/monthly reports

 I'll gladly accept any patch ! :)

 This is cool! I just looked through the x11-team packages and it seems
 very useful already. I have a few suggestions if you have time. =)

 - Some teams have official overlays. Supporting those as an additional
  source of ebuilds would be pretty nice.

 I'll just checkout these trees on my machine (and only enable them for 
 euscan).
 euscan use portage, gentoolkit and eix internaly, so overlays are not
 a problem :).

 Where could I get a list of official overlays that should be added ?

 - Another useful thing would be a way to supply CPV tokens for any
  unstable upstream series that we'll never add to the tree.

 There is already some kind of blacklist in euscan. Could you provide
 examples so I can implement that ?

 - This looks like a problem (a versioned tarball named cairo-5c):
  http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/x11-libs/cairo/

 Hum ... yes, I'll try to use better regex :).

Fixed in 
http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7a15c0ac72178bf2f3a73f94a70113ed9856e5c;hp=e5278e0e0f8cf617dff15f84540d0d6604081e82



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Corentin Chary
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Daniel Pielmeier bil...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Corentin Chary schrieb am 18.04.2011 11:05:

 Fyi: I ran a new scan this morning. It only took 3 hours !

 GNU's Parallel is really a great tool:
 `python manage.py list-packages | gparallel --eta --progress --jobs
 400% euscan | python manage.py scan-upstream --feed  /dev/null`

 I'll try to implement charts as soon as I've got enought data.

 I really like it. Keep up the good work. It gives a warm and fuzzy
 feeling if there are no unpackaged releases for the own packages :)

 There is one issue I recognized. How do you get the links for the
 unpackaged upstream versions and do you verify if the listed tarballs
 exist? I am asking because for app-editors/bluefish [1] there are eleven
 unpackaged versions listed but only sources for the three 2.0.3 releases
 exist and there are no releases for 2.1.x and 2.2.x.

 http://euscan.iksaif.net/package/app-editors/bluefish/

For bluefish, it's because when you try to download
http://www.bennewitz.com/bluefish/stable/source/bluefish-2.2.3.tar.bz2
it redirects you to an earlier version.

Fixed here: 
http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=commitdiff;h=d74b2c505619306ab1ce3d4af3f66084b4faeed9;hp=a7a15c0ac72178bf2f3a73f94a70113ed9856e5c

Thanks !

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:48 Mon 18 Apr , Corentin Chary wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
  - Some teams have official overlays. Supporting those as an additional
   source of ebuilds would be pretty nice.
 
 I'll just checkout these trees on my machine (and only enable them for 
 euscan).
 euscan use portage, gentoolkit and eix internaly, so overlays are not
 a problem :).
 
 Where could I get a list of official overlays that should be added ?

It will be a little tricky to get this perfect automatically. I would 
start with anything in the layman repository file [1] that has repo ... 
status=official and owner type=project.


1. 
http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/overlays/repositories.xml?view=log

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:48 Mon 18 Apr , Corentin Chary wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
  - Another useful thing would be a way to supply CPV tokens for any
   unstable upstream series that we'll never add to the tree.
 
 There is already some kind of blacklist in euscan. Could you provide
 examples so I can implement that ?

Sorry, forgot about this bit. I'm just talking about standard package 
tokens, the same kind used in package.mask or wherever:

=x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.14.90*
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.10.900

etc.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-16 Thread Corentin Chary
New website is up and running at

http://euscan.iksaif.net/

The git tree is still at http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=summary

TODO:
- Make some charts to see how it's going
- Finish the scan my world feature
- Add a way to subsribe to herds/maintainer/packages in order to
receive weekly/monthly reports

I'll gladly accept any patch ! :)

-- 
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http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-14 Thread Corentin Chary
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Corentin Chary
corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Corentin,

 Do you have a public repo for your django code/site available? I would
 really enjoy taking a look at what you have here, sounds cool.

 Thanks,
 Matt

Just pushed scan-upstream command (with --parallel support !).
Now, it's time to do a full scan and implement the views.
I staying on #gentoo-unregistered (iksaif) if someone want to get
involved in euscan :).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-13 Thread Corentin Chary
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 17:20 +, Corentin Chary wrote:

 misc:
 - automatic bug report
 - automatic email report for maintainer/herds

 I'm not sure if this makes sense. For example, it gets dev-lang/ruby
 wrong, thinking that our old patch files are missing versions. Also, for
 exiftool I only add production releases, so there will almost always be
 newer upstream intermediate releases. My point here is that there are
 often additional considerations in considering new releases, so fully
 automating this is going to be hard. Perhaps a weekly/monthly opt-in
 mail to the herd/maintainer with an overview would be useful?

Better, what about a per-herd/per-maintainer rss feed ?

 The website is nice to have as another source of scanning for updates,
 bookmarked.

The current site won't be updated, I'm working on a new django-based
website that should be up and running next week.
The url will probably be euscan.iksaif.net, but I'll post it here.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-13 Thread Matthew Summers
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Corentin Chary
corentin.ch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 17:20 +, Corentin Chary wrote:

 misc:
 - automatic bug report
 - automatic email report for maintainer/herds

 I'm not sure if this makes sense. For example, it gets dev-lang/ruby
 wrong, thinking that our old patch files are missing versions. Also, for
 exiftool I only add production releases, so there will almost always be
 newer upstream intermediate releases. My point here is that there are
 often additional considerations in considering new releases, so fully
 automating this is going to be hard. Perhaps a weekly/monthly opt-in
 mail to the herd/maintainer with an overview would be useful?

 Better, what about a per-herd/per-maintainer rss feed ?

 The website is nice to have as another source of scanning for updates,
 bookmarked.

 The current site won't be updated, I'm working on a new django-based
 website that should be up and running next week.
 The url will probably be euscan.iksaif.net, but I'll post it here.

 --
 Corentin Chary
 http://xf.iksaif.net



Hi Corentin,

Do you have a public repo for your django code/site available? I would
really enjoy taking a look at what you have here, sounds cool.

Thanks,
Matt
-- 
Matthew W. Summers



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-13 Thread Corentin Chary
 Hi Corentin,

 Do you have a public repo for your django code/site available? I would
 really enjoy taking a look at what you have here, sounds cool.

 Thanks,
 Matt

Hi,
Yes, my git repo is here: http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=summary
Current dependencies are: eix-0.22.5, gentoolkit-0.3.0 and portage of course.

I didn't took the time to write any kind of documentation, but here is
what you'll find in the repo:
- euscan standalone utility
- euscanwww

Currently euscanwww only have basic templates, models and view. But
you can alreay run these commands to fill the database:

$ emerge --sync
$ eix-update
$ python manage.py scan-portage --all
$ python manage.py scan-metadata --all

I'll implement scan-upstream soon.

The old index.php is still available in earlier revisions.

-- 
Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-10 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 17:20 +, Corentin Chary wrote:

 misc:
 - automatic bug report
 - automatic email report for maintainer/herds

I'm not sure if this makes sense. For example, it gets dev-lang/ruby
wrong, thinking that our old patch files are missing versions. Also, for
exiftool I only add production releases, so there will almost always be
newer upstream intermediate releases. My point here is that there are
often additional considerations in considering new releases, so fully
automating this is going to be hard. Perhaps a weekly/monthly opt-in
mail to the herd/maintainer with an overview would be useful?

The website is nice to have as another source of scanning for updates,
bookmarked.

Kind regards,

Hans



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-03-26 Thread Corentin Chary
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Corentin Chary corentin.ch...@gmail.com:
 I started this mostly to see if it was possible, and I don't know if
 i'll have the time to continue to work on that project, but I think
 gentoo really needs an automated way to detect outdated packages.
 This could also be a 2011 GSOC project (finishing euscan, and adding a
 web based interface to browse the results).

  Have you applied for a place in GSoC?

 V-Li

I can't apply to GSoC, I was suggesting that another student could work on that.

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Corentin Chary
http://xf.iksaif.net