Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-08 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
Am Mittwoch, 7. August 2013, 12:00:57 schrieb William Hubbs: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 11:26:16AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single person to respond to. I DO want

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-07 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 11:26:16AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the naming of the package, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 12:00:57PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: So, my choices, in no particular order, would be, netifrc, networkrc or, if neither of those fly, keep gentoo-oldnet. Robin hasn't responded, so my choice for this is netifrc (network interface rc). Someone made a comment about

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-07 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-07, o godz. 12:00:57 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 11:26:16AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single person to

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 12:01:14AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: Well, it sounds totally like motif to me but that doesn't really matter :D. Though I'd cut it down to 'netif' unless that's taken. Without the 'rc' is more nicely pronounced. netif is taken unfortunately, it's hard to differentiate

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-06 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/06/2013 12:09 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Various proposed names (in no specific order): names, *sigh* It's rather a interface setup utility than a networking thing. Networkin happens - most cases - when you have paths and entities and such

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/08/2013 00:09, Robin H. Johnson wrote: I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the naming of the package, and I think people need to cast a wider net for naming ideas. I'm most certainly not

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-06 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/08/13 09:45 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 08/05/2013 06:09 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: - netrc (conflicts) Would naming it net-rc alleviate the perceived conflict? Or alternatively, rc-net ? (google seems to reference 'rc' as 'remote

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-06 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the naming of the package, and I think people need to cast a wider net for naming ideas. Robin,

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-06 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
Am Dienstag, 6. August 2013, 11:26:16 schrieb William Hubbs: On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the naming of the package, and I

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-05 Thread viv...@gmail.com
[snip] :p I'm actually thinking netrc if Robin is ok with it. William replaying to a random message in the tree Not going to suggest a name but if has to be something for general consumption, it should avoid the gentoo inside the name just my 0.2¢

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the naming of the package, and I think people need to cast a wider net for naming ideas. I'm most certainly not planning to get rid of the package whatsoever, many

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-05 Thread Patrick McLean
On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 22:09:54 + Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: Naming goals: - Should describe what it does - Does NOT have a name conflict as verified by Google. - Does NOT imply OpenRC. - Implying Gentoo is fine, as it's where the package comes from. - Should drop 'old'

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-05 Thread Manuel Rüger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/06/2013 12:09 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: I'm replying the start of this thread, rather than picking a single person to respond to. I DO want more brainstorming on ideas for the naming of the package, and I think people need to cast a

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-05 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:09:54PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote Naming goals: - Should describe what it does - Does NOT have a name conflict as verified by Google. - Does NOT imply OpenRC. - Implying Gentoo is fine, as it's where the package comes from. - Should drop 'old' Some

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/05/2013 06:09 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: - netrc (conflicts) Would naming it net-rc alleviate the perceived conflict?

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/05/2013 09:45 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 08/05/2013 06:09 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: - netrc (conflicts) Would naming it net-rc alleviate the perceived conflict? Or, duh, networkrc.

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-04 Thread Ben de Groot
On 4 August 2013 10:38, Brian Dolbec dol...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 21:03 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-04 Thread William Hubbs
Doug and Brian, I'm going to reply in a little more detail. On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 07:38:04PM -0700, Brian Dolbec wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 21:03 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-04 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-04, o godz. 15:37:50 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Doug and Brian, I'm going to reply in a little more detail. How about gen-net? It's nice, short and the name is more flexible if the pkg is picked up by other distros (something bantied about during previous

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-04 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:37 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Doug and Brian, I'm going to reply in a little more detail. On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 07:38:04PM -0700, Brian Dolbec wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 21:03 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2013 04:37 PM, William Hubbs wrote: I thought about gentoo-networking, but that sucks in a way too because it implies that everyone on gentoo should be using it. ... How about gen-net? It's nice, short and the name is more

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-04 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dnia 2013-08-04, o godz. 18:01:40 Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com napisał(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2013 04:37 PM, William Hubbs wrote: I thought about gentoo-networking, but that sucks in a way too

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2013 06:36 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Since it was pulled out of openrc, the name netrc also suggests itself. 'net run control'? Sounds about right. We can say it's net run configuration if that's better politically. -BEGIN PGP

Maintainer decides (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet)

2013-08-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 4. August 2013, 22:37:50 schrieb William Hubbs: (...) Dear William, I think we have come to the point where we all realize that * any other name is better than oldnet * there are several possible new names * and (as frequently) decision by discussion does not really work. (This is

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-04 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Sun, 2013-08-04 at 15:37 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: Doug and Brian, I'm going to reply in a little more detail. On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 07:38:04PM -0700, Brian Dolbec wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 21:03 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-04 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 06:54:33PM -0700, Brian Dolbec wrote: On Sun, 2013-08-04 at 15:37 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: Doug and Brian, I'm going to reply in a little more detail. On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 07:38:04PM -0700, Brian Dolbec wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 21:03 -0500, Doug

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi all, I'm splitting the thread because this is a separate subject. On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 12:59:56AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: I do understand why Roy refer this as oldnet... but why in Gentoo do we keep the term

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Actually the plan is to generalize it so that it works with other init systems. Right now it is very tightly integrated with OpenRc, but there is interest

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Actually the plan is to generalize it so that it works with other init systems.

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 21:03 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: OK... so

Re: [gentoo-dev] renaming gentoo-oldnet

2013-08-03 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 09:03:06PM -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Actually the plan