Re: [gentoo-user] cpu flags / USE flags / compiler flags

2005-09-04 Thread ellotheth rimmwen
Hm. Clear, brief, instructive. Smells a lot like a mini-HOWTO. On 9/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are CPU flags and there are USE flags. Some of them have the same names, and that may confuse you. It works like this... 1) Get a listing of your cpu's flags in

Re: [gentoo-user] cpu flags / USE flags / compiler flags

2005-09-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 04 September 2005 05:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That list shows pentium4, mmx, sse, and sse2. Also, if you have *ANY* version of sse available, you can improve performance by running floating point math via sse, rather than 387 instructions. I recommend... CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe

Re: [gentoo-user] Nautilus - open in same window

2005-09-04 Thread Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila
On 19:47 Sat 03 Sep , Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I feel bad asking for this info again. Holly or someone else here told me what app to run a year ago but I don't seem to be able to find my notes anymore. The effects of age I think... I want to edit Gnome's configuration so that

Re: [gentoo-user] gtkrc-2.0 file

2005-09-04 Thread JM Fraser
What was the original location? On 0:45:07 September 04, 2005 LostSon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I seem to have lost my gtkrc-2.0 file could someone send me theirs, thanks. LostSon -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] gtkrc-2.0 file

2005-09-04 Thread LostSon
/home/.gtkrc-2.0 On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 09:04 +0100, JM Fraser wrote: What was the original location? On 0:45:07 September 04, 2005 LostSon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I seem to have lost my gtkrc-2.0 file could someone send me theirs, thanks. LostSon --

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Compiling non-portage app for gdb

2005-09-04 Thread Daniel Vrcic
* Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-09-03 11:47]: Hi, Can someone suggest how a non-programmer can compile a non-portage app to run in gdb so that I can get a trace of a segfault? I have the code. It compiles and segfaults on my AMD64 machine. I'd like to send the developers some debug data.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE fails to start when coupled with firewall...

2005-09-04 Thread Alexander Kirillov
I have set up a set of rules with iptables so that the default policy of all tables is to block all communication if it's not specifically allowed in the given table. Now I'm wondering why KDE doesn't start when those rules are applicable. It always stops where it should be initializing

Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix, LDAP, courier-imap, how do i get them to talk to each other?

2005-09-04 Thread Jakub Krajcovic
Hi Jose, That was exactly what i was thinking too, but i solved it a bit differently now. I used maildrop for local mailbox delivery, and i finally got the beast running. Although it is still not working the way i wanted, it is working never the less. S pozdravom / Best regards jakub

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Thumbdrive

2005-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 14:45:23 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: more like three months if you put a frequently written directory, like /tmp or /var/log, on a flash device. You can use UNIONFS for those ;) That makes it less portable, but it is a solution. Anyway, unless we're talking about

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht schreef: To become a Linux user is a commitment. People don't make new commitments lightly, and making a light commitment to Linux is doomed to failure. It's far too hard to use. This is a common 'perception', and yet again I have to object to it, because it's *wrong* (not for

Re: [gentoo-user] Nautilus - open in same window

2005-09-04 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht schreef: Hi, I feel bad asking for this info again. Holly or someone else here told me what app to run a year ago but I don't seem to be able to find my notes anymore. The effects of age I think... I want to edit Gnome's configuration so that Nautilus opens new folders in the

[gentoo-user] Faulty IDE ribbon?

2005-09-04 Thread Mick
Hi All, Just checking before I buy a new ribbon, that there is nothing more sinister happening with my secondary IDE controller. Suddenly and with no activity on my secondary IDE controller there's a noise as if my /dev/hdc (8G ATA drive) and /dev/hdd (CDWR) are reinitialised - i.e. the

Re: ???UNSURE??? [gentoo-user] Faulty IDE ribbon?

2005-09-04 Thread Laurent CARON
Mick a écrit : Hi All, Just checking before I buy a new ribbon, that there is nothing more sinister happening with my secondary IDE controller. Suddenly and with no activity on my secondary IDE controller there's a noise as if my /dev/hdc (8G ATA drive) and /dev/hdd (CDWR) are reinitialised -

Re: [gentoo-user] cpu flags / USE flags / compiler flags

2005-09-04 Thread Mark Knecht
I agree with Ellotheth that it seems like there's an opportunity to come up with a good optimization doc but the paper is interesting. The answers might not be the same for P4 vs. AMD vs. sparc vs. Apple. Maybe a suite of files that get compiled, generate the numbers and instruct you what might

[gentoo-user] Re: /dev/cdrom has gone!

2005-09-04 Thread Sven Köhler
P-ATA only | S-ATA only | P-ATA S-ATA etc and some others. i use a Native Mode, so that my disk can be recognized as /dev/hdaXX instead of /dev/sdaXX. and P-ATA only but with S-ATA enabled. What's wrong about /dev/sdaX ? That's exactly how it should be. So disable that strange native-mode

[gentoo-user] log4j-1.2.9 failed to compile

2005-09-04 Thread Martin Ullrich
Hi! I wanted to compile eclipse-sdk (emerge eclipse-sdk). emerge compiled some other packages, but failed compiling log4j-1.2.9. Can someone help me? Here's the emerge output: # emerge eclipse-sdk Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 20) dev-java/log4j-1.2.9 to / md5 files ;-)

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: /dev/cdrom has gone!

2005-09-04 Thread Greg Yasko
yes, it works just well in WindowsXP. it even works before i use udev. hehe i'm not sure it failed due to the udev, i have no idea now. I had the exact same problem when switching to the 2.6 kernel and udev several months ago. After deleting .devfsd from the devices directory my CD burner

[gentoo-user] why is Joe part of 'system' ?

2005-09-04 Thread Philip Webb
Intending to unmerge Joe (I have Vim E3 as non-GUI editors available), I encountered !!! Trying to unmerge package(s) in system profile. 'app-editors/joe' !!! This could be damaging to your system I've searched thro' /usr/portage/profiles/* for any reference to Joe, but he doesn't seem

Re: [gentoo-user] why is Joe part of 'system' ?

2005-09-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On 9/4/05, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intending to unmerge Joe (I have Vim E3 as non-GUI editors available), I encountered !!! Trying to unmerge package(s) in system profile. 'app-editors/joe' !!! This could be damaging to your system I've searched thro'

[gentoo-user] floppy drive will format a disk, boot from a grub floppy, but can't write any files

2005-09-04 Thread Adrian
Something odd is going on with my floppy drive, maybe it's just a hardware problem? In the first example you will see that I can format a floppy, mount it, but then I can not copy any files to it. -example Sun Sep 04 09:02:16

Re: [gentoo-user] Pixie does not run.

2005-09-04 Thread Adrian
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:29:30 -0400 Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words: LDFLAGS typically come in the -llib and -Lpath variety and are used to ensure that additional libraries and paths are included in the link phase. You typically won't need to add these (which is probably why

Re: [gentoo-user] why is Joe part of 'system' ?

2005-09-04 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 04 September 2005 15:30, Philip Webb wrote: Intending to unmerge Joe (I have Vim E3 as non-GUI editors available), I encountered   !!! Trying to unmerge package(s) in system profile. 'app-editors/joe'    !!! This could be damaging to your system I've searched thro'  

Re: [gentoo-user] log4j-1.2.9 failed to compile

2005-09-04 Thread Nagatoro
Martin Ullrich wrote: Hi! I wanted to compile eclipse-sdk (emerge eclipse-sdk). emerge compiled some other packages, but failed compiling log4j-1.2.9. Can someone help me? I spent a long time yesterday doing this emerge my self... I finally got it when I emerged all relevant dev-java/* stuff

[gentoo-user] Re: dhcpcd 2.0.0 - Boot process hangs

2005-09-04 Thread Sven Köhler
OK, I tried again. I do get an IP, I can connect to the internet, but the dhcpcd-process does not finish. In a working gentoo environment that is not a big problem, but while booting, this is bad. The dhcpcd process must not finish. Imagine a DHCP-lease that is invalid after 10 minutes. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Matt Garman
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 09:15:26AM -0400, Thomas Kirchner wrote: This can be a bit daunting, though, so when I was setting it up I found a fairly good base (taviso's, I believe) and customized the heck out of it. Now it's perfect for me, and I just can't get rid of it. I've tried pretty much

Re: [gentoo-user] why is Joe part of 'system' ?

2005-09-04 Thread Philip Webb
050904 Mike Williams wrote: On Sunday 04 September 2005 15:30, Philip Webb wrote: Intending to unmerge Joe (I have Vim E3 as non-GUI editors available), I encountered   !!! Trying to unmerge package(s) in system profile. 'app-editors/joe'    !!! This could be damaging to your system I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Philip Webb
050904 Matt Garman wrote: I did a search for taviso and found his fvwm2rc file: http://dev.gentoo.org/~taviso/fvwm2rc.html There's also a lot of screenshots (and even a video!) of that desktop. The video is astonishing ! Fvwm2 looks like great fun, if you have the time. --

Re: [gentoo-user] why is Joe part of 'system' ?

2005-09-04 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 01:42:32PM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: I'd put money on it being considered part of system because it provides virtual/editor, which is part of system. In /usr/portage/profiles/base/virtuals , it says virtual/editor app-editors/nano

[gentoo-user] Network timeout, eth0 stopped

2005-09-04 Thread waltdnes
Approx a week ago, I got a new computer, AMD64 on a K8 Triton Gigabyte Triton Nforce 4 motherboard. Today, ethernet stopped functioning. I couldn't even get it to work with the Gentoo minimal install CD. It was running OK the past week with... * Reverse Engineered nForce Ethernet support

Re: [gentoo-user] why is Joe part of 'system' ?

2005-09-04 Thread Holly Bostick
Mike Williams schreef: On Sunday 04 September 2005 18:42, Philip Webb wrote: In /usr/portage/profiles/base/virtuals , it says virtual/editor app-editors/nano there's no mention of Joe. This only specifies the default for the virtual. You've installed

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting direct rendering (DRI) to work with ATI 9550 video card

2005-09-04 Thread John Lange
Ok! Thanks to all who offered suggestions. I finally got it working. Bottom line was, you need to re-emerge Xorg to get it working. I noticed this line while emerging xorg: * Switching to ati OpenGL interface... Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... I then re-emerged the ati-drivers which turned

[gentoo-user] What's going on with scons

2005-09-04 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi, I'm doing right now an emerge -vuD world. Now portage wants to UPDATE scons. If I do another emerge -vuD world (not necessary to run emerge sync) portage wants to DOWNGRADE scons. Always that I do an emerge sync and later an emerge -vuD world, it updates my system, but scons depends on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 04 September 2005 11:41, Holly Bostick wrote: I've tried to stay away from this thread but can't resist any more. ;-) [ snip a lot of Holly's rant I mostly agree with ] This is why I can't deal with all the people I encounter who suggest that 'it' should 'JustWork' without need for

[gentoo-user] eix color meaning

2005-09-04 Thread James
Hello, I've searched for details on the meanings of the results of eix displayed in various colors: (color,brightness) available colors are: default, black, red, green, yellow, blue, purple, cyan, gray I even glanced over the wiki, but no details on what each color means. Note, I use KDE and

Re: [gentoo-user] why is Joe part of 'system' ?

2005-09-04 Thread Mariusz Pękala
I'd put money on it being considered part of system because it provides virtual/editor, which is part of system. In /usr/portage/profiles/base/virtuals , it says virtual/editor app-editors/nano there's no mention of Joe. Someone else suggested it comes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On 9/4/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:56:34 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: In general I'll have to take the unpopular position and say I disagree. All those potential converts are just like you - They don't run desktops they run apps - and because they are so

Re: [gentoo-user] What's going on with scons

2005-09-04 Thread Holly Bostick
Rafael Fernández López schreef: Hi, I'm doing right now an emerge -vuD world. Now portage wants to UPDATE scons. If I do another emerge -vuD world (not necessary to run emerge sync) portage wants to DOWNGRADE scons. Always that I do an emerge sync and later an emerge -vuD world, it

Re: [gentoo-user] Where did XFS (the X Font Server) go? [WBMII]

2005-09-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 14:33, Heinrich Rebehn wrote: Could this not be made the default? xorg takes *hours* to emerge. After upgrading xorg, i am now left without a fontserver for all of our 30 diskless clients, which are configured to use xfs. most people do not need it, so why should

Re: [gentoo-user] Network timeout, eth0 stopped

2005-09-04 Thread YoYo Siska
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Approx a week ago, I got a new computer, AMD64 on a K8 Triton Gigabyte Triton Nforce 4 motherboard. Today, ethernet stopped functioning. I couldn't even get it to work with the Gentoo minimal install CD. It was running OK the past week with... * Reverse Engineered

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Holly Bostick
Uwe Thiem schreef: On 04 September 2005 11:41, Holly Bostick wrote: I've tried to stay away from this thread but can't resist any more. ;-) [ snip a lot of Holly's rant I mostly agree with ] This is why I can't deal with all the people I encounter who suggest that 'it' should

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:02:30 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: You're confusing using with administering. Yes, administering a Linux system takes more knowledge than clicking a few buttons in Windows, but using a correctly setup system is no harder with Linux, even Gentoo, than Windows. My partner

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On 9/4/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But to use it you have to set it up, right? ;-) Wrong. someone has to set it up, but it doesn't have to be the user. Surely... I'm not confusing administering a system with using a system. Although my skill set is permanantly

Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for Lost Labyrinth

2005-09-04 Thread Markus Döbele
Hy Nick, I just uploaded Version 1.1.0 where I have rewritten the whole laby kernel. Now everthing works a lot better. All known bugs are fixed too! Please do not use the old version 1.0.5, because I discovered a lot of nasty bugs in this version! The new version is a good one! Markus Am

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo extras cd

2005-09-04 Thread Justin Kelly
Thanks all for the replies, I'll have a look at getdelta, I was more after something like where for Debian you can get the 12CD/4DVD set and just apt-get the packages locally. re Nick, just get a whole lot of binary packages on CD/DVD is what im after. Cheers Justin Kelly Nick Rout

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 14:11:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: See, you are the admin, your wife etc. are users. they don't care about the ins and outs of the system, only what they can do with it. Fine, but going back to the only thing in the thread that got me involved (why do I get involved? )

Re: [gentoo-user] cpu flags / USE flags / compiler flags

2005-09-04 Thread waltdnes
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 08:21:47AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote On Sunday 04 September 2005 05:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -march=pentium4 -mmmx -msse -msse2 -mfpmath=sse emm. I would not do this. -mfpmath=sse seems to be slower than

[gentoo-user] Re: dhcpcd 2.0.0 - Boot process hangs

2005-09-04 Thread Sven Köhler
The dhcpcd process must not finish. Imagine a DHCP-lease that is invalid after 10 minutes. The dhcpcd must regularly (well, before the lease is invalidated by the server) renew the lease. But the boot process stops, and I can't work with my gentoo box. It does not with the old version. So

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Apache Virtual Host

2005-09-04 Thread A. Khattri
On Sun, 4 Sep 2005, q-parser wrote: Unfortunately, it was no help :( I'll try to reinstall Koha (that's what I'm trying to get working) and see if the problem persists. But I strongly believe that there's problem with apache or vhost. Sorry to be blunt, but it really sounds like you dont

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Bob Sanders
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 00:56:56 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fair comment. If you're talking about individual user/admins then the learning curve of installing and administering a different OS (not necessarily more difficult, just different) is a serious obstacle. Based on my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Paul Hoy
On Sep 4, 2005, at 11:20 PM, Bob Sanders wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 00:56:56 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fair comment. If you're talking about individual user/admins then the learning curve of installing and administering a different OS (not necessarily more difficult, just

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Apache Virtual Host

2005-09-04 Thread Michael Crute
On 9/4/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to be blunt, but it really sounds like you dont really know whatyou're doing. You really need to read the docs on how to setup virtual hosts. There is nothing wrong with apache. Hmm... yes... I will bite my tongue before I make another troll

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo router redundancy via Ucarp?

2005-09-04 Thread kashani
James wrote: Hello, I'm still hacking at my first Linux firewall. I decided to build in redundancy, via CARP which replaces the cisco protocol VRRP. I like to develop 2 versions: This email primary covers the routing issues you're going to see. For the record the Cisco equivalent of VRRP is

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo extras cd

2005-09-04 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 09:20:39 +1000 Justin Kelly wrote: Thanks all for the replies, I'll have a look at getdelta, I was more after something like where for Debian you can get the 12CD/4DVD set and just apt-get the packages locally. re Nick, just get a whole lot of binary packages on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ?

2005-09-04 Thread Matt Randolph
[I just thought I'd chip in my two cents on the question of whether Linux is easy or hard. It's turned into more like my $11.62, so it's a good thing it's broken into sections.] Linux is easy. That's not to say that it can't be hard. Depending on what you're trying to do, you may have to