Re: [gentoo-user] Awesome vs Xmonad

2008-12-17 Thread Gregory SACRE
Hi Man, I was a huge fan of FVWM (loved the flexibility of it) and I tried to switch to awesome. After trying a bit to understand how the configuration script work (about three days in my spare time), I understood how awesome (this one was easy :-p) this wm is. You can do pretty much what you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:06:06 -0600, Dale wrote: Light bulb warning. So null and console are on the drive for it to start up but once it mounts /dev then it uses that virtual thing? Cool, if I understand that correctly. Yes, those two devices are needed before udev starts,so they have to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Which one...blender goes nuts...

2008-12-17 Thread b.n.
meino.cra...@gmx.de ha scritto: Hi, This is slightly off topic, but I hope there is someone here, who know the trick... I use to compile blender myself from the freshest svn checkout I could get ... :) This morning my sync with the outer world presents an update of openal from

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:24:27 -0800, Grant wrote: I'm about to buy a couple Samsung Spinpoint F1 hard drives and I was planning on setting them up in a RAID0 array. Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Don't daily backups secure 99% of the data that RAID1

Re: [gentoo-user] Awesome vs Xmonad

2008-12-17 Thread Man Shankar
On 09:39 Wed 17 Dec , Gregory SACRE wrote: Hi Man, I was a huge fan of FVWM (loved the flexibility of it) and I tried to switch to awesome. After trying a bit to understand how the configuration script work (about three days in my spare time), I understood how awesome (this one was

[gentoo-user] Best website backup practice

2008-12-17 Thread Momesso Andrea
I run on an old laptop a website (Joomla + MediaWiki + Moodle + a couple of other things). The site now is offline and I'm ok with my automated backups of all the hard drive, but it's going to go online in a few weeks and I'd like to add some more security. What I'd like to have is periodic

Re: [gentoo-user] Best website backup practice

2008-12-17 Thread Kyle Bader
This is a great method that I utilize: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Momesso Andrea momesso.and...@gmail.comwrote: I run on an old laptop a website (Joomla + MediaWiki + Moodle + a couple of other things). The site now is offline and

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:24 +0100, KH wrote: Which is why you still need offsite backups. Best you have them with your grandparents in another town. Maybe there is a flood ;-) Mine are a thousand miles away, so unless its another Biblical flood... -- Neil Bothwick Earlier, I didn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Best website backup practice

2008-12-17 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:55:36AM -0800, Kyle Bader wrote: This is a great method that I utilize: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ And what about the database? === http://topperh.blogspot.com === pgpP5H7h5icch.pgp

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] One line script for md5sum

2008-12-17 Thread Mick
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:47:51 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: That's why I suggested them :-) I use them a lot, especially when I have to run the same set of commands on 15 different hosts, then I do something like: for I in $(seq 1 15) ; do

Re: [gentoo-user] Keyboard layout switching with Alt+Shift

2008-12-17 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: In KDE 3.5.10, I can't switch keyboard layouts with Alt+Shift even though that option is enabled in the control center: Regional Accessibility-Keyboard Layout -Xkb Option-Layout Switching-[x] Alt+Shift change layout. The

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?

2008-12-17 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I know I had webmin installed for a long time but rarely used it. I just couldn't remember if I used it for setting up printing from windoze or not. A friend is running webmin on a server and it makes setting up some services

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Grant
I'm about to buy a couple Samsung Spinpoint F1 hard drives and I was planning on setting them up in a RAID0 array. Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Don't daily backups secure 99% of the data that RAID1 does? They even protect in the event of theft

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?

2008-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 17 December 2008 20:59:54 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I know I had webmin installed for a long time but rarely used it. I just couldn't remember if I used it for setting up printing from windoze or not. A friend is running

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread KH
Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:24:27 -0800, Grant wrote: They even protect in the event of theft or fire which RAID1 doesn't. Which is why you still need offsite backups. Best you have them with your grandparents in another town. Maybe there is a flood ;-) kh

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread kashani
Grant wrote: Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive? No need for RAID1, brand new technology always works right in the first generation. There are never problems. :-D It would be interesting to run RAID1 between an SSD and SATA drive. I wonder what sort of issues the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:20:38 -0600, Dale wrote: I got it transfered over. I noticed something weird tho. I was booted from the CD. When I was checking the permissions to make sure things were going well, it kept showing gentoo:users instead of dale:users for example. The ones that were

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?

2008-12-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008 20:59:54 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I know I had webmin installed for a long time but rarely used it. I just couldn't remember if I

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] One line script for md5sum

2008-12-17 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 08:48:52AM +, Mick wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:47:51 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: That's why I suggested them :-) I use them a lot, especially when I have to run the same set of commands on 15 different hosts,

Re: [gentoo-user] Awesome vs Xmonad

2008-12-17 Thread Dede
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:52:37 +0530 Man Shankar man.ee@gmail.com wrote: On 09:39 Wed 17 Dec , Gregory SACRE wrote: One of the other things I really like in awesome, it's the fact that you can mix up tiling windows and floating ones. You can define, for certain window titles in the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] One line script for md5sum

2008-12-17 Thread Robert Bridge
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:33:35 -0500 Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 08:48:52AM +, Mick wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:47:51 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: That's why I suggested them :-) I use them a lot,

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Grant
Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive? No need for RAID1, brand new technology always works right in the first generation. There are never problems. :-D It would be interesting to run RAID1 between an SSD and SATA drive. I wonder what sort of issues the disparity in

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Dezember 2008, Grant wrote: I'm about to buy a couple Samsung Spinpoint F1 hard drives and I was planning on setting them up in a RAID0 array. Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Don't daily backups secure 99% of the data that RAID1 does?

Re: [gentoo-user] Best website backup practice

2008-12-17 Thread kashani
Momesso Andrea wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:55:36AM -0800, Kyle Bader wrote: This is a great method that I utilize: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ And what about the database? I like LVM snapshotting for databases, but that takes some planning and you

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread KH
Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:24 +0100, KH wrote: Which is why you still need offsite backups. Best you have them with your grandparents in another town. Maybe there is a flood ;-) Mine are a thousand miles away, so unless its another Biblical flood...

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 12:51 -0800, Grant wrote: Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive? No need for RAID1, brand new technology always works right in the first generation. There are never problems. :-D It would be interesting to run RAID1 between an SSD and SATA

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread KH
Grant schrieb: I'm about to buy a couple Samsung Spinpoint F1 hard drives and I was planning on setting them up in a RAID0 array. Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Don't daily backups secure 99% of the data that RAID1 does? They even protect in the

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 12:30 -0800, kashani wrote: Grant wrote: Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive? No need for RAID1, brand new technology always works right in the first generation. There are never problems. :-D It would be interesting to run RAID1 between an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly

2008-12-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:20:38 -0600, Dale wrote: I got it transfered over. I noticed something weird tho. I was booted from the CD. When I was checking the permissions to make sure things were going well, it kept showing gentoo:users instead of dale:users for

Re: [gentoo-user] Best website backup practice

2008-12-17 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:03:46PM -0800, kashani wrote: I like LVM snapshotting for databases, but that takes some planning and you have to stop the database. However your mysqlbackup are actually very unsafe because I know for certain that Mediawiki uses Innodb tables. mysqlbackup

Re: [gentoo-user] Best website backup practice

2008-12-17 Thread kashani
Momesso Andrea wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:03:46PM -0800, kashani wrote: I like LVM snapshotting for databases, but that takes some planning and you have to stop the database. However your mysqlbackup are actually very unsafe because I know for certain that Mediawiki uses Innodb tables.

Re: [gentoo-user] Print to cups printer from Windows - any good instructions?

2008-12-17 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 16 December 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi Willie, On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu wrote: (Sorry if this one is a dupe... my SSH connection went kaplui and I wasn't quite sure whether the mail got sent) On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 01:04:25PM -0800,

Re: [gentoo-user] Print to cups printer from Windows - any good instructions?

2008-12-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I've now tested my Vista machine. It works fine and Vista actually had an HP driver for this printer so I used that driver since the Adobe postscript driver doesn't install on Vista. From Vista I can print in color on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 2.6.27-r5 soft lockup

2008-12-17 Thread Dave Oxley
Holger Hoffstaette wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:01:20 +1100, Dave Oxley wrote: I upgraded from gentoo-sources-2.6.27-r4 to -r5 a couple of days ago and got the below error messages in /var/log/messages. Also dovecot was using 100% CPU and could not be killed. This resulted in me having to

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] One line script for md5sum

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:48:52 +, Mick wrote: Hmm, I tried this with a sequence of files that look like name0001stat.txt to name0198stat.txt, but when I run {0001..0198} it fails because it seems to ignore the zeros in 0001 and start counting from 1. Do I need to use some escape character

Re: [gentoo-user] Awesome vs Xmonad

2008-12-17 Thread Dake Wang
I am an xmonad user now. I installed awesome once, but didn't try to understand much details of it, so no comment on awesome. On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Man Shankar wrote: On 09:39 Wed 17 Dec , Gregory SACRE wrote: Hi Man, I was a huge fan of FVWM (loved the flexibility of it) and I tried to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?

2008-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 17 December 2008 22:30:55 Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008 20:59:54 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I know I had webmin installed for

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] One line script for md5sum

2008-12-17 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 17 December 2008, 23:01, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:48:52 +, Mick wrote: Hmm, I tried this with a sequence of files that look like name0001stat.txt to name0198stat.txt, but when I run {0001..0198} it fails because it seems to ignore the zeros in 0001 and

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] One line script for md5sum

2008-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 17 December 2008 22:42:34 Robert Bridge wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:33:35 -0500 Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 08:48:52AM +, Mick wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:47:51 +0200, Alan McKinnon

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?

2008-12-17 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Wednesday 17 December 2008, 23:13, Alan McKinnon wrote: But back onto your original question. Webmin is a problem that cannot be fixed. It needs to have root priviledges, the root password needs to go over the wire to the webmin http server, True, although all the webmin installations I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Print to cups printer from Windows - any good instructions?

2008-12-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: I've now tested my Vista machine. It works fine and Vista actually had an HP driver for this printer so I used that driver since the Adobe

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] One line script for md5sum

2008-12-17 Thread Robert Bridge
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:17:18 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008 22:42:34 Robert Bridge wrote: Or use a wildcard based match. namestat.text works, as would name*stat.text pedantic name0[01][0-9]{2}stat.text /pedantic would be better

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Stroller
On 17 Dec 2008, at 02:24, Grant wrote: ... Everyone seems to love RAID1 though, and I'm a little confused as to why. Everyone loves RAID1 because it backs up your data. Note the use of quotation marks. You stated that data throughput was a bottleneck for your system, so RAID1 may not give

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?

2008-12-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008 22:30:55 Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008 20:59:54 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 17 December

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Stroller
On 17 Dec 2008, at 10:25, KH wrote: ... Also there have been articles that if one drive of a raid dies there is a chance that you cannot recover your data. This is based on the theory, that one of the other drives have hidden errors. The chances for this grow with the size of the hd.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] One line script for md5sum

2008-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 18 December 2008 00:31:56 Robert Bridge wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:17:18 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008 22:42:34 Robert Bridge wrote: Or use a wildcard based match. namestat.text works, as would name*stat.text

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?

2008-12-17 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I know I had webmin installed for a long time but rarely used it. I just couldn't remember if I used it for setting up printing from windoze or not. A friend is running webmin on a server and it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:13:28 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: But back onto your original question. Webmin is a problem that cannot be fixed. It needs to have root priviledges, the root password needs to go over the wire to the webmin http server, and to the best of my knowledge is not subject to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?

2008-12-17 Thread Eric Martin
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:13:28 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: But back onto your original question. Webmin is a problem that cannot be fixed. It needs to have root priviledges, the root password needs to go over the wire to the webmin http server, and to the best of my

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Dezember 2008, Stroller wrote: On 17 Dec 2008, at 10:25, KH wrote: ... Also there have been articles that if one drive of a raid dies there is a chance that you cannot recover your data. This is based on the theory, that one of the other drives have hidden errors. The

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 17 Dezember 2008, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 12:30 -0800, kashani wrote: Grant wrote: Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive? No need for RAID1, brand new technology always works right in the first generation. There are never problems.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Why RAID1?

2008-12-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
On 17/12/08 19:57, KH wrote: Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:18:24 +0100, KH wrote: Which is why you still need offsite backups. Best you have them with your grandparents in another town. Maybe there is a flood ;-) Mine are a thousand miles away, so unless its another

Re: [gentoo-user] Print to cups printer from Windows - any good instructions?

2008-12-17 Thread BRM
Yes, that would require Samba as at least earlier Windows can only share it via CIFS/SMB - at least, end-user versions. You might be able to get Win2k Server, Win2k3, or Win2k8 to do IPP only though, but I doubt it would be easy to get WinXP, Win2k Pro, or Vista to do so. If you can get

Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver

2008-12-17 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:06:26PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: er, anyone? You may try by sending a mail using the text format instead of the HTML one. I don't read more than one line when it's written in HTML. I suspect that a lot of contributors do the same here. Please, conform to

Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] Webmin Question - was Print to cups printer from Windows?

2008-12-17 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:13:28AM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: What the heck is a clue by 4[1]? It's a word play :-) Know what a 2 by 4 is? A 2 inch by 4 inch plank that you clobber someone ever the head with when they are being thick. This is Way OT, but a two by four

[gentoo-user] perl-5.10.0 [?!?!]

2008-12-17 Thread Michael Higgins
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:44:51 -0800 Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:15:36 -0800 Andrey Falko ma3ox...@gmail.com wrote: It is about catalystframework, which is in the perl-experimental overlay (a misnomer if ever there was one, experimental). It is

[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard layout switching with Alt+Shift

2008-12-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Mick wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: In KDE 3.5.10, I can't switch keyboard layouts with Alt+Shift even though that option is enabled in the control center: Regional Accessibility-Keyboard Layout -Xkb Option-Layout Switching-[x] Alt+Shift change layout.