On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:05:03 -0700
Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
FYI,
stage3-amd64-20120621.tar.bz2 creates a file /etc/make.conf
handbook says to edit to /etc/portage/make.conf
Chris
Either one will work. The software looks in both locations. You will
not
The 07/09/12, Dale wrote:
The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or using it
as
tmpfs, it is the same memory. There is no difference. That's the
whole
point.
Feel free to take your own assumptions as undeniable truth. The way the
kernel work with memory is the key, of
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 07/09/12, Dale wrote:
The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or using it
as
tmpfs, it is the same memory. There is no difference. That's the
whole
point.
Feel free to take your own assumptions as undeniable truth. The way the
kernel work
Just saw the eselect news item saying make.conf and make.profile are
moving to /etc/portage next week. Unfortunately, there's no link to a
page w/ more info in the news item. Does anyone know what version of
portage knows to look for them in this location? I don't want to move
mine prematurely :)
Zac wrote on gentoo-dev:
Current portage supports it? Or is their a new version coming which I
would need?
It's been supported in stable portage since portage-2.1.9.24 stabilized
in November/December 2010:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346819
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 07/09/12, Dale wrote:
The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or using it
as
tmpfs, it is the same memory. There is no difference. That's the
whole
point.
Feel free
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:59:41 -0400, Doug Hunley wrote:
Just saw the eselect news item saying make.conf and make.profile are
moving to /etc/portage next week. Unfortunately, there's no link to a
page w/ more info in the news item. Does anyone know what version of
portage knows to look for them
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:59:41 -0400, Doug Hunley wrote:
Just saw the eselect news item saying make.conf and make.profile are
moving to /etc/portage next week. Unfortunately, there's no link to a
page w/ more info in the
Michael Mol wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 07/09/12, Dale wrote:
The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or
using it
as
tmpfs, it is the
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Mol wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 07/09/12, Dale wrote:
The thing is tho, whether it is using the memory as cache or using it
as
tmpfs,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:43:12 -0700
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:59:41 -0400, Doug Hunley wrote:
Just saw the eselect news item saying make.conf and make.profile
are moving to
Michael Mol wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Mol wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Following the handbook, I am now setting my timezone. I am in Los Angeles.
Should I select:
a) /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Pacific
b) /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Pacific-New
c) [your answer here]
man Pacific
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On 10.09.2012 13:59, Doug Hunley wrote:
Just saw the eselect news item saying make.conf and make.profile
are moving to /etc/portage next week. Unfortunately, there's no
link to a page w/ more info in the news item. Does anyone know what
version of
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 12:00:15PM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked:
Or, when previewing what
emerge world wants to do, note that a new flag is enabled, remove it
yourself and let emerge world proceed when you are happy with it.
s/remove/add
and your advice works equally well for
Hello,
because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what
should I preserve to make install faster:
1. I presume that /home can be left intact.
2. I plan to backup /etc and after reinstall I'm going to diff
/etc.old with /etc to see what changed and to keep my previous changes
in
Hi,
I dont understand this output of emerge:
The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
dvdnav? ( dvd )
The above constraints are a subset of the following complete expression:
bindist? ( !win32codecs ) cdio? ( !cdparanoia ) cddb? ( any-of ( cdio
cdparanoia )
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:36 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
dvdnav? ( dvd )
It means the following: If USE flag dvdnav is enabled, then dvd
must be, too.
Essentially, it enforces a dependency of certain USE flags for sanity
On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote:
Hello,
because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what
should I preserve to make install faster:
1. I presume that /home can be left intact.
2. I plan to backup /etc and after reinstall I'm going to diff
/etc.old with /etc to see what
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote:
Hello,
because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what
should I preserve to make install faster:
So what *is* broken? The hardware? If you have a new PC, you
Am Montag, 10. September 2012, 12:53:41 schrieb Andrey Moshbear:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote:
Hello,
because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what
should I preserve to make install
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
I use America/Los-Angeles myself.
Mark, Paul:
Thank you, I went with America/Los_Angeles
Chris
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
That's a very new change just announced globally today and only for
new installs. Take a look at eselect news for more info.
What a coincidence! I went with the older stage3 approach.
Thank you,
Chris
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
LANG=en_US.UTF8
LC_ALL=en_US.UTF8
Dale,
Thank you, I used the same.
P. S. Welcome to Gentoo and the world of constantly learning. Just
when you learn something, something changes and you get to learn it all
over again. :/
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
h.v.bruineh...@fu-berlin.de wrote:
Why not copy them over and create a symlink for legacy-reasons? I'd
guess that every stable version of portage will support it, because
that change (to the stage 3) wouldn't make sense otherwise.
I did
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote:
A 'locale' is a collection of character set, language, date/time
format, currency format, etc
Josh,
Thank you. I now understand what a locale is. It is surprising to
me that the string en_US.UTF8 tells the OS about
On 10/09/12 19:53, Andrey Moshbear wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote:
Hello,
because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what
should I preserve to make install faster:
So what *is* broken?
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:41:36AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 23:42:45 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
Isn't readline enabled by default on all reasonable profiles? Do
you have USE=-* in make.conf? If so, it's just bitten you.
Yup. I did that to avoid further
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:53:41 -0400
Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras
rea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote:
Hello,
because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what
should I preserve
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:20:04 -0400
Doug Hunley doug.hun...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
h.v.bruineh...@fu-berlin.de wrote:
Why not copy them over and create a symlink for legacy-reasons?
I'd guess that every stable version of portage will support
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:47:47AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote
Incidentally, I've found out why the system creates many TTYs :
they're the equivalent of GUI workspaces = desktops,
allowing someone working without X to view different files etc.
I'm continually struck by the genius of those who
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:53:41 -0400
Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras
rea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote:
Hello,
because I
After corrupting my gentoo root filesystem system during hibernate
experiments, I have finally finished the reinstallation. But hibernate
still doesn't seem to work correctly. The symptoms are the same as
during the experiments leading to the root fs corruption, but this time
the root seems to
I have just tried again using pm-suspend and the same thing happens.
Everything looks like it has worked, but when I do a ps ax, there are
many (currently around 50) sleeping kernel threads. There are also a few
extraneous migration, ksoftirq threads intermixed.
--
Timur
One unusual property of this system is that it has 5 additional SATA
disks to be used for RAID experiments, in addition to the disk holding
gentoo. So there are a total of 6 disks. But during these experiments,
these 5 additional disks are not mounted.
The motherboard is an Asus
Hello,
I installed twm to test my xorg as per the gentoo install docs. Works great!
Then I decided to install what I thought would be a lightweight WM:
xfce4 with emerge -vat xfce4-meta. Unfortunately emerge didn't want
to continue without some changes from me involving USE flags gudev,
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
1. Understand gudev, policykit, and consolekit and not be frightened
of them (a tall order given the google results I am getting). Then
enable the USE flags and install xfce4-meta
FWIW, the idea behind
Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many:
ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and
questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge.
Supposedly gentoo lacks being able to have a system just work
without thinking about anything.
On 09/10/2012 05:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
3. Select another WM that is more lightweight and doesn't require
these USE flags.
I'm leaning towards (3).
Can you recommend a WM that will not require me to enable gudev,
policykit, and consolekit?
When I want a real barebones desktop (say
Chris Stankevitz wrote:
Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many:
ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and
questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge.
Supposedly gentoo lacks being able to have a system just work
without
Am Montag, 10. September 2012, 15:19:38 schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:41:36AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 23:42:45 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
Isn't readline enabled by default on all reasonable profiles? Do
you have USE=-* in make.conf? If so, it's
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
That's a very new change just announced globally today and only for
new installs. Take a look at eselect news for more info.
What a
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:46:14 -0700
Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many:
ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and
questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge.
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:31:28 -0500
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
1. Understand gudev, policykit, and consolekit and not be frightened
of them (a tall order given the google results I am
On 09/10/2012 05:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many:
ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and
questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge.
Supposedly gentoo lacks being able to have a
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:07:08 +0200
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Montag, 10. September 2012, 15:19:38 schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 08:41:36AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 23:42:45 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
Isn't readline
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:19:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
I'd rather have that that an unusable shell. As was noted elsewhere
this weekend, even if a USE flag is set but renamed, -* screws it
up.
So no matter what I do or don't do, a developer can find a way to
screw me up.
Yes, but
Hello,
Can someone refer me to a source that explains how when I plug in a
USB thumb drive it appears on my XFCE4 desktop (or any other WM)?
Ideally the answer will use words like:
daemon
hal
udev
policykit
consolekit
/etc/init.d/*
hotplug
gvfs
mount
automount
pmount
gnome-volume-manager
udisks
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote:
A 'locale' is a collection of character set, language, date/time
format, currency format, etc
Josh,
Thank you. I now understand what a
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
3. Select another WM that is more lightweight and doesn't require
these USE flags.
I'm leaning towards (3).
Can you recommend a WM that will not require me to enable gudev,
policykit, and consolekit?
I
On Sep 10, 2012 7:14 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
I installed twm to test my xorg as per the gentoo install docs. Works
great!
Then I decided to install what I thought would be a lightweight WM:
xfce4 with emerge -vat xfce4-meta. Unfortunately emerge didn't
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many:
ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and
questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge.
Supposedly
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 09:36:25PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:53:41 -0400
Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras
rea...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote:
Hello,
because I broke
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many:
ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and
questioning) what is going to be installed. I love emerge.
Supposedly
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
For the release to use new packages with their new magic features,
every other package using those packages must also be recompiled
I see now.
The only sane way to deal with this is to peg
the packages at version
I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not
come with thunar. When I tried to install it, portage became upset.
Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages
and deal with slot conflicts and static-libs to install a file
manager? FYI I am
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not
come with thunar. When I tried to install it, portage became upset.
Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not
come with thunar. When I tried to install it, portage became upset.
Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Try reemerging world with USE=-static -static-libs, and then try to
emerge thunar also with USE=-static -static-libs.
Canek,
Thank you for your help. I
1. added -static -static-libs to /etc/make.conf USE.
2. emerge
On Sep 11, 2012 5:19 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com
wrote:
That's a very new change just announced globally today and only for
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
I got farther this time, but it seems that emerge is still asking a lot of me.
Eventhough I think it's odd (and a sign that I screwed up somewhere),
I can satisfy the USE flag requests and the ~amd64
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem seems to be the use of static libraries
I temporarily worked around by adding xfce-base/thunar -udev to
package.use. Somehow building thunar with udev introduced the mess.
Chris
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Sep 11, 2012 5:19 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
Can I see your USE
Canek,
Thank you for your help. My USE flags are pretty benign. I'm
beginning to suspect something is grossly wrong with my setup. Below
I will post my USE line from make.conf and my entire
On Sep 11, 2012 6:40 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many:
ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
# 2012-09-10: appease thunar
xfce-base/thunar -udev
This makes no sense; the udev flag in thunar only asks for
=sys-fs/udev-171, which is stable. Are you sure you don't have
anything in
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
# 2012-09-10: appease thunar
xfce-base/thunar -udev
This makes no sense; the udev flag in thunar only asks for
On Sep 11, 2012 9:31 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Sep 11, 2012 5:19 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 11, 2012 5:58 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:19:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
I'd rather have that that an unusable shell. As was noted elsewhere
this weekend, even if a USE flag is set but renamed, -* screws it
up.
So no matter what I do
Hi Timur, we need a lot more information:
what kernel version
in kernel or ToI hibernation
are you using genkernel
separate /usr
lvm
and anything else applicable.
Hibernation can be a pig to get going.
BillK
-Original Message-
From: Timur Aydin t...@taydin.org
Reply-to:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:15:47AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote
But I stay clear of -* ... that thing's too eeevil for me... :-)
I realize -* requires extra work, and I'm willing to do it. That
includes finding solutions to obscure problems. Maybe it's because I'm a
control freak.
--
Walter
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 02:19:51PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote
3. Select another WM that is more lightweight and doesn't require
these USE flags.
I'm leaning towards (3).
Can you recommend a WM that will not require me to enable gudev,
policykit, and consolekit?
See my sig. I use
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 03:56:20PM -0700, Chris Stankevitz wrote
Also, ideally after I know about it I'd like to be able to
understand and derive on my own the answer to this question:
is it possible for TWM to recognize when I plug in a USB thumbdrive
and display it for me to use.
A GUI
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 00:20 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
3. Select another WM that is more lightweight and doesn't require
these USE flags.
I'm leaning towards (3).
Can you recommend a WM that will
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
=sys-fs/udev-171, which is stable. Are you sure you don't have
anything in /etc/portage/package.keywords?
I know it sounds absurd, but... I have no package.keywords file. My
package.use is small and benign. My
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