Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote: On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 16:32:19 Daniel Frey wrote: Is Windows writing a hybrid partition table? Maybe use something like parted to check. Dan MSwindows these days installs a separate boot partition. The MSWindows boot manager can be chainloaded from

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:39:13 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: When you said a new install, I assumed it was a newer computer, but if you don't have UEFI and want Windows you are apparently stuck with MBR. Neil, I don't know why you make such a fuss about MBR. I've been using it ever since

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:09:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: PS I checked and the gentoo installation guide says that gpt without uefi prevents dual booting windows. So the answer to the question of why are you using a 1980s partition table is that

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote: I'm afraid you're right: Can Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 read, write, and boot from GPT disks? Yes, all versions can use GPT partitioned disks for data. Booting is only supported for 64-bit editions on UEFI-based systems.

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 26 July 2015 11:15:03 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:09:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: PS I checked and the gentoo installation guide says that gpt without uefi prevents dual booting windows. So the answer to the question of why are you using a 1980s partition

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The state of public relations?

2015-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 08:23:22 -0600, Jc García wrote: * I clicked send before I was finished editing. Good thing it was only an email and not a graphical installer ;-) -- Neil Bothwick It's no use crying over spilt milk -- it only makes it salty for the cat. pgpTTHvbQjDwL.pgp Description:

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/26/2015 07:35 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote: On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 16:32:19 Daniel Frey wrote: Is Windows writing a hybrid partition table? Maybe use something like parted to check. Dan MSwindows these days installs a separate boot partition. The

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:09:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: PS I checked and the gentoo installation guide says that gpt without uefi prevents dual booting windows. So the answer to the question of why are you using a 1980s partition table is that you want to use a 1990s operating system on

[gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-26 Thread Hans
On 18/07/15 03:25, James wrote: From [1] we have Project:Installer [2] which looks very interesting. However, If I were to create a new gentoo installer, I think I'd leverage ansible and the persistence mode (usb stick) code that LikeWhoa put together, as a basis for the effort. I'd be most

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
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Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Jc García
2015-07-26 8:38 GMT-06:00 gottl...@nyu.edu: My son wanted me to do that. I didn't because Something else to learn (I don't run a vm). I didn't want to face dell support with linux and xen underneath the supported windows. That's an exaggeration, VirtualBox is just a few clicks and you

[gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-26 Thread James
wabenbau at gmail.com writes: I used to install and look after OpenSuse Desk and Laptops until systemd showed it's ugly face. Now I install and look after several Gentoo Xfce desktops and 3 OpenSuse Xfce Laptops. I use a Cut Paste script to install Gentoo on Desktops. The only manual

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Mick wrote: On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 17:06:11 Jc García wrote: 2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net: I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other OS' on bare

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Todd Goodman
* Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com [150726 11:28]: 2015-07-26 8:38 GMT-06:00 gottl...@nyu.edu: My son wanted me to do that. I didn't because Something else to learn (I don't run a vm). I didn't want to face dell support with linux and xen underneath the supported windows. That's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-26 Thread wabenbau
Hans li...@interworld.net.au wrote: On 18/07/15 03:25, James wrote: From [1] we have Project:Installer [2] which looks very interesting. However, If I were to create a new gentoo installer, I think I'd leverage ansible and the persistence mode (usb stick) code that LikeWhoa put

[gentoo-user] Re: Project:Installer

2015-07-26 Thread James
Bruce Schultz brulzki at gmail.com writes: Matthew Marchese maffblas...@gentoo.org writes: I see that you've found stager. I'd like you to share your thoughts on what a perfect installer Gentoo could do. A successful gentoo installer will: Be

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 17:06:11 Jc García wrote: 2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net: I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/07/2015 18:06, Jc García wrote: 2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net: I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't know how well

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Jc García
2015-07-26 14:55 GMT-06:00 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Is that Alan as in me? No, I should have written Allan, I didn't notice the 'll' also as he was the original poster and I didn't see any post from others with same name I omitted the last name. Interesting experience you share

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Mick wrote: On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 15:35:15 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to 50 takes work as there are unmovable files in the middle (the are there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I didn't try

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Todd Goodman
* Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com [150726 12:06]: 2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net: I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Todd Goodman wrote: In the times I've had to deal with support it's usually about doing what they ask so they finally believe that it's a hardware problem and will generate the needed RMA # to get replacements. Sometimes that's running Dell Diagnostics and sometimes it's

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Jc García
2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net: I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't know how well Dell's crap^W support stuff runs in a VM.

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:14:46 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Actually I did have a bit of a fling with btrfs at that time, but I couldn't understand what the docs were telling me. I must have had a comprehension gap or something, but in the end I just went back to what I knew and reinstalled

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 10:16:45 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: When you said a new install, I assumed it was a newer computer, but if you don't have UEFI and want Windows you are apparently stuck with MBR. It does have UEFI and perhaps I should have learned how to use it. I understand

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Thomas Mueller
N one is forcing you (unless you have a UEFI board), and more than anyone is telling you not to use a 2.4 series kernel. Neil Bothwick This brings a question to mind: Does anybody know what Linux kernel was the first to support GPT? Slackware 13.0, released in 2009 with kernel 2.6.29.6, did

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Jc García wrote: 2015-07-26 14:55 GMT-06:00 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Is that Alan as in me? No, I should have written Allan, I didn't notice the 'll' also as he was the original poster and I didn't see any post from others with same name I omitted the

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 15:35:15 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to 50 takes work as there are unmovable files in the middle (the are there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I didn't try but simply removed the big

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Daniel Frey wrote: On 07/26/2015 07:35 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to 50 takes work as there are unmovable files in the middle (the are there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I didn't try