Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Willie Wong wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 06:52:12AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> A complete reboot like that might be software jumping to the wrong >> address but, if so, it seems to me that it's more likely caused by how >> you&#x

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Dale wrote: > I'm baakk.  Anybody want to guess why?  Come on, guess.  First > one doesn't count. > > OK.  This thing ran for a while with no problems.  I'm downloading a video > while I am watching TV.  I use Firefox for that because it has that downl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> > No! It is not the latest. It's just what portage is offering you. The >> > link I sent you clearly (!?) stated that you need to be running the >> > latest 'Certified' driver revision 275.09.07 to get this fix. Just >> > because the Gent

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 07/11/11 09:45, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> Gentoo devs don't mark software as stable, they mark ebuilds as stable. >> This has no direct link to the usability of the software itself. >> >> > > Nuh uh. From http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ke

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:47:28 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > That is the latest for my card that is in the tree. >> >> No! It is not the latest. It's just what portage is offering you. The >> link I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> DAle, >>    PLEASE look at bullet item #3 in this NVidia release: >> >> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-275.09.07-driver.html >> >> >> >> Fixed a bug

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-10 Thread Mark Knecht
sounds familiar to me... - Mark On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:42:50 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>&g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:42:50 -0500, Dale wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Yea, done tried that.  I tried different kernels, different nvidia >>> drivers and all with no change. >>> >> >> WAG - have you tried the nv drivers? >> >> >> > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Dale wrote: > > It works as long as I don't open Firefox.  If I open Firefox, poof!!  No > more trapped smoke.  lol > > Dale So I had suggested running it in gdb and someone else suggested running it in strace. Did you have a chance to try either of those? Not su

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> And this is exactly why you should consider posting any information >> your can find on LKML to let the heavy weight guys figure it out. As I >> said earlier, I believe they will take you quite serio

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Dale wrote: > Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> >> On 07/09/11 16:56, Dale wrote: >> >>> >>> No worries.  Sometimes when you back up a bit, you may realize you >>> missed something.  I did run memtest and it bad about 45 passes I think >>> with no errors.  That takes a whi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.

2011-07-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Dale wrote: > András Csányi wrote: >> >> I had a similar problem but regarding Chromium. You can read about in >> this list "Chromium and everything" subject. May I ask which kernel do >> you use? >> >> > > I remember the thread, even replied a couple times, but thi

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

2011-07-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Dale wrote: > As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system.  I'm in the > process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will > change anything.  So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and > glibc. Do what you w

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:44 AM, pk wrote: > On 2011-07-07 09:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Gentoo users have developed a certain expectation over the years, >> whereby devs will take user needs seriously and go to extra-ordinary >> lengths to support everything under the sun. >> >> That's what Gen

Re: [gentoo-user] Booting from SoftwareRaid 10 with metadata > 1.0 possible?

2011-07-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Jens Reinemuth wrote: > Hi everybody, > > i'm totally stuck with an installation of a server using SoftwareRAIDs (10) > with an adaptec aic79xx Controller... > > I thought that perhaps the drivers must be corrupted, but i found some (older) > howtos that described y

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Dale wrote: > A little more info.  After my last message, I opened Firefox.  It locked up. >  That runs as a regular user of course.  So, I wanted to test a theory.  I > logged into Fluxbox after my reboot.  I opened Firefox and it locked up. >  Nothing else was ru

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> If I had to guess I'd say, since this followed a power failure where >> the machine was live and operating (if I've understood the thread >> through a quick scan) that some file on disk

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dale wrote: > Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: >> >> Dale, random hard-lockups are only due to hardware or kerne, it can't >> be otherwisel (drivers count as part of kernel). The fact that >> compilation doesn't lock your system only means that the thing >> (whatev

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.

2011-07-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 06 July 2011 01:03:03 Dale wrote: > >> I might add, the last time it locked up, I had a compile process running >> in a console.  I watched the hard drive light, it was blinking away. >> So, the root of the system was running but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2011 14:15:12 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: >> I'm curious, however, about my Gentoo VMs. Can KMS run on a VM's >> kernel and do anything useful there? This is more for learning and >> not a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2011 13:47:28 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: >> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> > On Monday 04 July 2011 11:20:43 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: >> >> > The wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2011 11:20:43 Mark Knecht did opine thusly: >> > The way I've been doing this only required `vesa' or `uvesa' and >> > some special kernel line stuff.  None of the X related stuff is >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Albert Hopkins writes: > >> On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: >>> this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you >>> to be running xorg. >> >> KMS doesn't require X, but Xorg can use it.  Basically

Re: [gentoo-user] "emerge --depclean" wants to unmerge app-editors/nano (part of system)

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Jarry wrote: > Hi, > I have this strange problem for a few days: after normal > updates (I think glib has been updated) I tried to run > "emerge --depclean" (as recommended) but got these messages: > > --- > obelix ~ # emerge --depclean >

Re: [gentoo-user] Get source URLs of packages?

2011-07-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Is there a way to determine the source URL of a package without > actually emerging ? > > Rgds, > -- > Pandu E Poluan Not sure what you mean by 'source URL' but you can get the homepage of a package using eix. That almost always leads to some

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > As a follow-up to your problems, and because I'm just plain interested > in this /dev/null,console question, I decided to create a completely > new Gentoo VM myself from scratch this morning. I'm going FAR more > slow

Re: [gentoo-user] Why have a use-flag that can not be disabled?

2011-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 5:52 AM, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Hello, > > atm I play with some use-flags and found that amarok has the flag player > that can not be disabled. > > #required by amarok (argument) > =media-sound/amarok-2.4.1 player > > If this flag is required at all costs, why make a fla

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >> I'm very curious - did you happen to try appending something like >> >> init=/sbin/init 1 >> >> to the boot kernel command and seeing what happens? That might be >> in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > First, thanks for going well beyond the call of duty and showing the > patience of Job. > Gawd, you must not know about all the public help I've received here over the years? It's the LEAST I can do. > Those files are there already and h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > The boot process does get a little farther but comes to a halt at > >  Switching to clock source tsc > > And there it has sat for some time now.  Apparently is not going to continue. That EXACT symptom was EXACTLY what we saw on new hardwa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >>>> Here's the kernel config from my 64-bit 2.6.38-gentoo-r3 VM >>> >>> Mark is that guest running in vmware or something else than Virtual Box. >> >> The guest

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> Harry Putnam writes: >>> >>>> I didn't think to get the right wording before rebooting into >>&g

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/machine-id ???

2011-06-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:49 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > I found a file /etc/machine-id on my linux box. > I did a qfile for this and nothing was found. > > What purpose is that file and can I delete it without problems? > > Best regards, > mcc I don't know about removing /etc/machine-id, but if you ar

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >>    As for Gentoo installs, IMHO, they are in a bit of a mess right >> now. Last weekend a friend decided to give Linux a try and I helped >> him install Gentoo. The tarballs still, afte

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about the minimal install isos

2011-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > I fully agree and `SystemRescueCD' is exactly what I ended up > using still failed to get a working gentoo vm though.  Why is it > such a bitch to install gentoo into a guest vm? > Hi Harry, You've said this a couple of times that Gen

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: > * Mike Edenfield [110624 08:25]: >> On 6/24/2011 8:03 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: >> > * Mike Edenfield  [110623 18:34]: >> >> >> It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional >> >> (USE=-R) that falls squarely into the "

Re: [gentoo-user] Fbsplash

2011-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I wonder what 3.0 will be like > Newer... ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Dale wrote: > > I install with kde-meta.  It pulls about all things KDE in with that.  For > me, it is better to use kde-meta than to do it any other way.  Even with > kde-meta, I think there is a few that I still had to emerge manually. kde-meta say (to me) 'I w

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-settings over ssh sees my local GPU?

2011-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:39 AM, YoYo Siska wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 05:21:07PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:54:01 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >    My question is about running nvidia-settings. I'm finding that if I >

[gentoo-user] nvidia-settings over ssh sees my local GPU?

2011-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, BACKGROUND ONLY: I've got a futures trading partner who is attempting to give up Windows if he can. I've helped him install Gentoo on his new machine. The box is up and running and so far very productive for him. We're struggling a bit with getting his three monitor setup working like it did

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: > * Mark Knecht [110622 18:35]: >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Todd Goodman wrote: >> >> > >> > No actually blas-reference fails to build unless gcc is built with the >> > fortran use flag

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Dale wrote: > > I emerge -C ifc and revdep-rebuild rebuilt some stuff but it is gone now. >  So, you may have to work with it but it *might* be removable too. > > Dale Hi Dale, For me this was more about following along with the thread and learning about this

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > The times I've tried to get a recent gentoo version running in a vm on > windows turned out to be labor taking days to get right. > > Does anyone know if there is a fairly current gentoo appliance > somewhere that I can just install and then u

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Todd Goodman wrote: > > No actually blas-reference fails to build unless gcc is built with the > fortran use flag enabled (since there's no fortran compiler available.) > > The deps pulling in blas-reference are in my previous mail. > > Todd If you have virtual/f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > I'm on KDE too, and it doesn't need it.  Probably because my make.conf > explicitly says "-fortran" in it. > > > For kicks I decided to give -fortran a try. I find it interesting that with Fortran installed using either the fortran fl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > I'm on KDE too, and it doesn't need it.  Probably because my make.conf > explicitly says "-fortran" in it. > That's actually the correct statement. When I removed the fortran flag it didn't change anything because (I suppose) the KDE p

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> I guess I can stop playing scaredicat and remove it. :-) >> >> - Mark >> >> >> > > I think the dev added it back.  So, if you really don't need it, put the > minus si

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 22 Jun 2011 14:29:58 Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Dale wrote: >> >> >> > Heads up for folks about to do their updates, check into the USE flag >> > fortran to see if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Dale wrote: > Well, it appeared to only affect gcc here. As it should? c2stable ~ # equery hasuse fortran * Searching for USE flag fortran ... [IP-] [ ] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5:4.4 c2stable ~ #

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 06:18:49 -0500, Dale wrote: >> >> >>> >>> To think people wonder why my USE line is so big.  I keep having to add >>> stuff when portage pukes but portage never tells me when one has fell >>> off the rese

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Dale wrote: > > Heads up for folks about to do their updates, check into the USE flag > fortran to see if you need to add it to yours before updating a bunch of > stuff. > > Dale This is my one strange, mystery global use flag. It's been turned on in make.conf on

Re: [gentoo-user] Use split to break up a 10GB file binary?

2011-06-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 21 June 2011 01:28:05 Mark Knecht wrote: > >> I get about 8MB/S download but only about 250KB/S upload. > > Should those B's be b's? In other words, bits instead of bytes? Or are you > on something

Re: [gentoo-user] Use split to break up a 10GB file binary?

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Indi wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:25:57AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Hi, >>    Is split an appropriate program to use to break a single 10GB file >> into 100 100MB files to transfer over the net using rsync, and then >> use cat

Re: [gentoo-user] Use split to break up a 10GB file binary?

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:25:57AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote >> Hi, >>    Is split an appropriate program to use to break a single 10GB file >> into 100 100MB files to transfer over the net using rsync, and then >

Re: [gentoo-user] Use split to break up a 10GB file binary?

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Nils Larsson wrote: > On Monday 20 June 2011 08:25:57 Mark Knecht wrote: >> Hi, >>    Is split an appropriate program to use to break a single 10GB file >> into 100 100MB files to transfer over the net using rsync, and then >> use cat

Re: [gentoo-user] Use split to break up a 10GB file binary?

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20 2011, Paul Hartman wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> Hi, >>>   Is split an appropriate program to use to break a single 10GB file >>> into 100 100

Re: [gentoo-user] Use split to break up a 10GB file binary?

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Hi, >>   Is split an appropriate program to use to break a single 10GB file >> into 100 100MB files to transfer over the net using rsync, and then >> use cat

[gentoo-user] Use split to break up a 10GB file binary?

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, Is split an appropriate program to use to break a single 10GB file into 100 100MB files to transfer over the net using rsync, and then use cat to reassemble? Is there some better way to do this? Thanks, Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoolkit-0.3.0.4: Digest verification failed

2011-06-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Jarry wrote: > Hi, > yesterday I updated gentoolkit to the last stable version > (0.3.0.4), but when I tried to update today, I got these > messages: > > === > styx / # emerge --ask --update --deep --newus

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?

2011-06-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/16/2011 06:45 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> Is there a simple explanation concerning the difference between the >> two locales I have seen on Gentoo machines? >> >> 1) /etc/locale, as specified in t

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?

2011-06-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Is there a simple explanation concerning the difference between the >> two locales I have seen on Gentoo machines? >> >> 1) /etc/locale, as specified in

[gentoo-user] /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?

2011-06-16 Thread Mark Knecht
Is there a simple explanation concerning the difference between the two locales I have seen on Gentoo machines? 1) /etc/locale, as specified in the installation documents 2) /etc/env.d/02locale as has been discussed on the list recently I'm helping a Windows friend bring up his first Gentoo box.

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: future moderation

2011-06-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Matt Harrison wrote: > Hi list, > > An odd post here but I'm sitting up after midnight with a few beers and I > wanted to get an advanced word on this. > > I don't know if anyone is subscribed to the ruby-talk mailing list at the > moment (or used to be on the comp

Re: [gentoo-user] Sorting soundcards...

2011-06-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:39 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > With my PC I have three "soundcards" (from the Alsa point of view), > which are: > >    0 [SB             ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB >                      HDA ATI SB at 0xfcaf8000 irq 16 >    1 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia >          

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't find b43 in kernel config

2011-06-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Francesco Talamona wrote: >> What is 'b43'? > >> > >> When I have that problem I typically start with > >> > >> cat /usr/src/.config | grep b43 > >> > >> which returns nothing implying to me that b43 doesn't exist at all. > >> > >> - Mark > > Mark this isn't a goo

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't find b43 in kernel config

2011-06-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Grant wrote: > I've satisfied these requirements: > > Depends on: NETDEVICES [=y] && WLAN [=y] && SSB_POSSIBLE [=y] && > MAC80211 [=n] && HAS_DMA [=y] > > but I don't see the option here: > > Location: > -> Device Drivers > -> Network device support (NETDEVICES [=y

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 & --depclean

2011-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Albert Hopkins wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 07:37 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Then you missed the point of the thread. > > Quite possibly. Actually, my comment was unfair and I apologize. If you didn't happen to read every part of the threa

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 & --depclean

2011-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Albert Hopkins wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 07:09 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> And all of these machines are using the kde profile? > > Of course not.  Why would you put a server (or anything else) in the kde > profile unless you wanted to

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 & --depclean

2011-06-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Albert Hopkins wrote: > >> I exaggerated. The number of kde packages pulled in on my compute >> server right now is about 10, so it's not as bad as I remember. > > I have a bunch of systems (desktop and client) and none of them pull in > any KDE libs save one, which

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 & --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> That's what I thought until I moved to the kde profile, at which time >> it seems to about 80% of kde-meta became part of @system. > > I complained about KDE stuff being in the system set l

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 & --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 23:39 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mark Knecht did > opine thusly: > >>    I have no problem with saying someone needs to understand what less >> does. less isn't important. It's just

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 & --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:39:34 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >>    What I didn't like about this issue popping up yesterday is that it >> altered the idea that average users never touch anything in @system. >> Iin fac

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 & --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 22:51 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Mark Knecht did > opine thusly: > >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Alan McKinnon >> wrote: >> >> >> #370295 >> > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 & --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> #370295 > > Zac responded (comment #21) to my post in that bug with quite a well-reasoned > rationale. It makes interesting reading. It was a good response. One question left hanging for me goes like this: I understand nano is a choice

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 & --depclean

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Latest portage-2.2.0_alpha38 has changed something with system set and > depclean handling. It now shows this: > > !!! 'app-editors/nano' is part of your system profile. > !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system. > I saw the same thin

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

2011-06-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo. > > Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days, > unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs > developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than > I can handle

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chrome and everything

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Friday 03 June 2011 22:50:28 Mick wrote: >> > > >> > > Agreed. I do wish we'd get something open and reasonably well coded >> > > to >> > > replace  flash, >> >> I do hope that html5 will do away with it altogether. > > you can easil

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox + kernel panic 2.6.38-r2

2011-06-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:33 PM, James wrote: > I'll get the error message and then post it here. > > I'm using Samsung drives that haven't seen any other problems under > heavily utilization. > > What specific kernel version are you using? What version of vbox? > > -j > The underlying Gentoo sys

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox + kernel panic 2.6.38-r2

2011-06-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:44 AM, James wrote: > There doesn't seem to be anything in the VBox.log that indicates the > system had a hard lockup. I imagine the kernel panicing resulted in > VirtualBox being unable to write to the log. > > Is anyone running VB on a Linux raid partition? I've logical

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox + kernel panic 2.6.38-r2

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2011-05-31 1:31 PM, James wrote: >> The only thing I've read online that may be applicable is that there >> have been some issues with kernel panics when you give the guest OS >> more than 1 processor. It would suck badly if SMP didn't work w

Re: [gentoo-user] kde update

2011-05-31 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Alain DIDIERJEAN > wrote: >> Trying to update from kde4.5 to kde4.6 > > I find that it is easier to unmerge old version :4.5 KDE, then emerge > the new version :4.6. Upgrade always seems to be a mess like tha

Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

2011-05-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: > On 05/25/2011 12:15 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> [snip] >>> >>> Valmor, >>>   Take a look at the Extension Pack. It might give you mor

Re: [gentoo-user] Display indirect login X app here?

2011-05-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:50:49 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > Is $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS set? Without it you will get errors like >> > this. >> > >> > I have this in my .zshrc to set it

Re: [gentoo-user] usb support in virtualbox

2011-05-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: > Hello, > > I am interested in usb support within virtualbox guests. The version I > am currently using does not offer it: > >   virtualbox-3.2.12-r4 > > would the bin package > >  virtualbox-bin- 3.2.12-r1 > > has it?  Is the usb support

Re: [gentoo-user] Wierd key bindings in Firefox

2011-05-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo. > > In Firefox 3.6.17, I would expect Page up/down to scroll ~a page up / > down, and for up/down arrow to scroll a small number of lines up/down. > > This doesn't happen.  Instead Page up/down do nothing, arrow down > scrolls to

Re: [gentoo-user] Display indirect login X app here?

2011-05-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 22 May 2011 12:01:59 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> mark@gandalf ~ $ ssh -X -Y -C laptop >> Password: >> Last login: Sun May 22 03:50:07 PDT 2011 from 192.168.1.2 on pts/0 >> mark@laptop1 ~ $ konsole

Re: [gentoo-user] Display indirect login X app here?

2011-05-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Bill Longman wrote: > Obvious fix: don't use konsole. > > Use xterm. > > -- > Bill Longman Bill, That's not a fix as it isn't konsole I care about but things like oocalc, systemsettings and other things which all fail with the same error message. As of yet

Re: [gentoo-user] Display indirect login X app here?

2011-05-22 Thread Mark Knecht
your local. > > -- > Jeremy McSpadden > def...@uberpenguin.net > > > > > On May 22, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> Hi, >>   I'm on a Gentoo box here and ssh'ed into a remote network at my >> folks house. When I log into the Gent

[gentoo-user] Display indirect login X app here?

2011-05-22 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, I'm on a Gentoo box here and ssh'ed into a remote network at my folks house. When I log into the Gentoo machine that the router points to (my dad's desktop) I have no problem displaying an X app (gnome-terminal for instance) running on that machine here on my screen. However when I ssh from

Re: [gentoo-user] Flash lockups

2011-05-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:57:55 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Wednesday 18 May 2011 17:35:11 Mark Knecht wrote: >> > What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating >> > to OpenRC? Grante

Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc

2011-05-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > everything else just works (well, apart from Flash in web browsers, but that > hardly counts). > > -- > Rgds > Peter > > What about Flash in web browsers is not working for you since updating to OpenRC? Granted, I run only Firefox-3.6.X bu

Re: [gentoo-user] Framebuffer

2011-05-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:57 AM, JDM wrote: > Genthinktank, > How can you determine all the available frambuffer resolutions and colour > depths on a particular host for vesafb. I normally set this through trial and > error but there must be a command to determine these? > JDM > > HTH, Mark c2

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/05/12 17:03 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: > >> On 2011/05/12 16:41 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: > >>>  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=6 >>> seems to >>>  have a circular reference, that is, suggesting

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=6 seems > to have a circular reference, that is, suggesting the use of the subject > utility prior to chrooting and having any such utility in $PATH. I've never > installed Gent

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Dale wrote: > Hi folks, > > I was curious, what's the results of the openrc update for people that have > done theirs?  Is it pretty simple and "just works" or are there issues?  I'm > mostly interested in x86 and amd64 since that is what I have.  Just a simple > w

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.6 upgrade - no applications

2011-05-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 10 May 2011 19:36:54 Mark Knecht wrote: >> For anyone who has a stable machine, upgrades KDE as per the release >> from last night and finds, like me, that they had no applications in >> the applicati

[gentoo-user] KDE-4.6 upgrade - no applications

2011-05-10 Thread Mark Knecht
For anyone who has a stable machine, upgrades KDE as per the release from last night and finds, like me, that they had no applications in the applications menu, the command kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental run from the user account should help you get running again. Cheers, Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Check CPU for throttling

2011-05-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Bill Longman wrote: > On 05/10/2011 09:34 AM, James wrote: >> Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: >> >> >>> otherwise. Just enable ondemand, disable everything else, and et the kernel >>> get on with doing what it does best: >> >> So this is what you are saying? >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] heads-up: 2011-05-01 baselayout news

2011-05-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Mon, 2 May 2011 11:16:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> > Does stable portage support the --autounmask option to emerge? >> >>> I use ~amd

Re: [gentoo-user] heads-up: 2011-05-01 baselayout news

2011-05-02 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 2 May 2011 11:16:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> > Does stable portage support the --autounmask option to emerge? > >> I use ~amd64 portage so I have supports that feature but what command >> do I r

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