Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2012, 05:57:51 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:34 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Tue, July 17, 2012 8:49 pm, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > >> = > >> = > >> Requested video codec

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:34 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Tue, July 17, 2012 8:49 pm, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > >> == >> Requested video codec family [wmsdmod] (vfm=dmo) not available. >> Enable it at compilation. >> Reques

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, July 17, 2012 8:49 pm, Mark Knecht wrote: > == > Requested video codec family [wmsdmod] (vfm=dmo) not available. > Enable it at compilation. > Requested video codec family [wms10dmod] (vfm=dmo) not available. > Enab

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:32:24 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > I haven't run a multimon setup in a while. I sacrificed one of my > displays as a debugging display for another machine. I use a KVM to get the best of both worlds with my second monitor. -- Neil Bothwick Cereal Killer Strikes Again! Ca

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> There are containers and codecs. Most containers are supported, >>> leaving the codecs. >>> >>> Can you post the output of 'mplayer -identify $filename' on that file? > >> >> Point me toward a samples archive and I'll post a file. > > There

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Michael Hampicke >>> wrote: >> Video-codecs? I haven't seen a video in years that was not

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Michael Hampicke >> wrote: > Video-codecs? I haven't seen a video in years that was not playable by > 64bit > ffmpeg based players but wor

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Hampicke
>> And really, as I use a lot of VM's all day long, it doesn't seem >> overly important any more. It's trivial to just run a Windows VM to >> play wmv files whereas finding someone in the Linux world who actually >> cares about supporting and promoting the wmv format seems like a waste >> of my tim

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Michael Hampicke > wrote: Video-codecs? I haven't seen a video in years that was not playable by 64bit ffmpeg based players but worked with 32bit. >>> >>> >>> Lots of wmv files won't play in

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: >>> Video-codecs? I haven't seen a video in years that was not playable by 64bit >>> ffmpeg based players but worked with 32bit. >> >> >> Lots of wmv files won't play in 64-bit. That's the only one I have >> trouble with. They play fine in

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Hampicke
>> Video-codecs? I haven't seen a video in years that was not playable by 64bit >> ffmpeg based players but worked with 32bit. > > > Lots of wmv files won't play in 64-bit. That's the only one I have > trouble with. They play fine in 32-bit Gentoo. > Mark, was thinking of you and your videos that

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Video-codecs? I haven't seen a video in years that was not playable by 64bit > ffmpeg based players but worked with 32bit. Lots of wmv files won't play in 64-bit. That's the only one I have trouble with. They play fine in 32-bit G

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Alecks Gates
On Jul 17, 2012 11:32 AM, "Volker Armin Hemmann" wrote: *snip* > The only use case that might come up is wine - I don't know anything about > that beast. Haven't had any use for it in years. > > -- > #163933 > I use wine daily on 64 bit with no problems. You can generate a 32 or 64 bit config wit

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2012, 07:52:08 schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan: >> So the same old query again I guess. >> What architecture should I use for a machine with 3GB RAM and a 64bit >> processor? >> >> I believe 64bit should be given seri

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2012, 19:34:32 schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan: > > Is it only me or the ~amd64 branch has become really unstable in the few > days? (Yeah I know ~amd64 can be unstable to any extent it wants to, but > just a qualitative question) It is you. Some gnome/freedesktop/whatthehell st

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2012, 07:52:08 schrieb Nilesh Govindrajan: > So the same old query again I guess. > What architecture should I use for a machine with 3GB RAM and a 64bit > processor? > > I believe 64bit should be given serious consideration only if RAM is gt or > = 4 GB, even there 32bit is

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > >> This is all on an amd64 system. I don't know what it's like in 32-bit >> x86 on Gentoo, as I've never run that form of Gentoo; I let multilib >> handle things there. >> >> -- >> :wq >>

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > This is all on an amd64 system. I don't know what it's like in 32-bit > x86 on Gentoo, as I've never run that form of Gentoo; I let multilib > handle things there. > > -- > :wq > Correct me if I'm wrong please but as I remember it everyone ru

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On 07/17/2012 07:19 PM, Leiking wrote: 64bit means bugs.?? But I use 64. 2012/7/17 Pandu Poluan : On Jul 17, 2012 10:08 AM, "Michael Mol" wrote: --- >8 IMO, it's worth the 'overhead' to run 64-bit, if only for the greater number of GPRs and other architectural improvements. There's hon

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Leiking
64bit means bugs.?? But I use 64. 2012/7/17 Pandu Poluan : > > On Jul 17, 2012 10:08 AM, "Michael Mol" wrote: >> > --- >8 > > >> >> IMO, it's worth the 'overhead' to run 64-bit, if only for the greater >> number of GPRs and other architectural improvements. There's honestly >> a lot of good stuff

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jul 17, 2012 10:08 AM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > --- >8 > > IMO, it's worth the 'overhead' to run 64-bit, if only for the greater > number of GPRs and other architectural improvements. There's honestly > a lot of good stuff in x86-64 beyond the larger address space. The > increased address space a

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
There is no reason to use 32bit. Am 17.07.2012 04:28 schrieb "Nilesh Govindrajan" : > So the same old query again I guess. > What architecture should I use for a machine with 3GB RAM and a 64bit > processor? > > I believe 64bit should be given serious consideration only if RAM is gt or > = 4 GB, e

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-16 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, July 17, 2012 5:36 am, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > Virtualisation ? I am running qemu (windows, gentoo), vbox (windows, > gentoo, fedora) and gxemul (ultrix) all 32 bit guests on 32 bit systems > on either 32 or 64 bit hardware running gentoo - can you confirm you > need 64bit for 64bit gue

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 19:52 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On 7/16/12, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >> > So the same old query again I guess. >> > What architecture should I use for a machine with 3GB RAM and a 64bit >> > processor? >> > >> > I

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > So what is recommended? There are as such no special use cases to go 64bit for me. >>> >>> Why 32? ... Flash, win32

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-16 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 19:52 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 7/16/12, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > > So the same old query again I guess. > > What architecture should I use for a machine with 3GB RAM and a 64bit > > processor? > > > > I believe 64bit should be given serious consideration only if RAM

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> So what is recommended? There are as such no special use cases to go 64bit >>> for me. >>> >> >> Why 32? ... Flash, win32 codecs, probably Wine but not sure as it has >> been years... >

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 7/16/12, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: >> So the same old query again I guess. >> What architecture should I use for a machine with 3GB RAM and a 64bit >> processor? >> >> I believe 64bit should be given serious consideration only if RAM is gt

Re: [gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On 7/16/12, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > So the same old query again I guess. > What architecture should I use for a machine with 3GB RAM and a 64bit > processor? > > I believe 64bit should be given serious consideration only if RAM is gt or > = 4 GB, even there 32bit is allowable with PAE if I'm n

[gentoo-user] 32bit or 64bit

2012-07-16 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
So the same old query again I guess. What architecture should I use for a machine with 3GB RAM and a 64bit processor? I believe 64bit should be given serious consideration only if RAM is gt or = 4 GB, even there 32bit is allowable with PAE if I'm not wrong. So what is recommended? There are as su