Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-06-05 Thread Tamer Higazi
Am 30.05.2013 10:04, schrieb Andrea Conti: No. :) While Intel Macs are EFI platforms, they have an early and quirky implementation that cannot properly boot Windows in EFI mode I hope you are not right for the latest MAC Mini, I would like to buy. PS: Sorry, long line Tamer

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-30 Thread Andrea Conti
Thanks Andrea. I had though that the MBR was automatically mapped to the the first 4 gpt partitions because that's they way it's always been on my system. So now I wonder how it's been set that way, because I know i've never touched gpt-fdisk and I didn't use bootcamp. Maybe the refit

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-30 Thread Andrea Conti
The real problem is that while rEFIt/rEFInd, OSX and Linux have no problem dealing with a GPT partition table, Windows only supports MBR. (Windows 7+ supports GPT partition tables but it can only boot from a GPT disk in EFI mode. So, let us assume we have in the game: Windows 7 Ultimate

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-30 Thread Tamer Higazi
Okay, I meanwhile got that even the most new Mac Mini Servers make use of the earliest implementations of EFI that Windows doesn't understand. The only way to get Windows booted propperly is in BIOS emulation mode, but that Partitions wouldn't be recognized (according it's emulation).

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-30 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 30.05.2013 18:29, Tamer Higazi wrote: ... which in turn means that Windows will not use the GPT table. This is a really stupid Windows limitation, but we can't do anything about it. hm The Linux kernel can use GPT with no restrictions, however booting is another story.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?! GOT IT!

2013-05-30 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi Andrea! Got the problem with Windows I red myself today through (h) No need to answer my last Mail in the List, it is all clear to me now. But thanks again, for the last long explanation anyway Tamer Am 30.05.2013 10:04, schrieb Andrea Conti: The real problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-30 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi Yuri, If the MAC Mini has a UEFI Bios, then the whole problem we have talked about was for nothing. That is only related to 32 Bit Versions of Windows. x64 Windows 7 Version comes with a UEFI Bootloader and an installer, that can be used.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-29 Thread Andrea Conti
We can't have more then 4 primary partitions on a hard disk. Gentoo needs 2 partitions, /boot and a Virtual partition (that count's as well as one primary) with all the other folders. Windows will create 2. and Mac OSX minimum 1, am I right?! Your Windows partitions have to be in the first

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-29 Thread Andy Laursen
On Wed, May 29, 2013, at 04:25 AM, Andrea Conti wrote: We can't have more then 4 primary partitions on a hard disk. Gentoo needs 2 partitions, /boot and a Virtual partition (that count's as well as one primary) with all the other folders. Windows will create 2. and Mac OSX minimum 1,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-29 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi Andrea! Am 29.05.2013 11:25, schrieb Andrea Conti: The real problem is that while rEFIt/rEFInd, OSX and Linux have no problem dealing with a GPT partition table, Windows only supports MBR. (Windows 7+ supports GPT partition tables but it can only boot from a GPT disk in EFI mode. So,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-28 Thread staticsafe
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:09:13PM +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote: Hi people! I have come close, according my profession to buy myself the latest Mac Mini Server. Because I do all of my development stuff on Gentoo and Windows, I am highly interested to know if any of you guys is running Mac OS X

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-28 Thread staticsafe
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:14:13AM -0400, staticsafe wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:09:13PM +0200, Tamer Higazi wrote: Hi people! I have come close, according my profession to buy myself the latest Mac Mini Server. Because I do all of my development stuff on Gentoo and Windows, I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-28 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi! My questions: 1. Do I need bootcamp?! 2. Why am I not able to accomplish this task with grubm and have to take refind ? 3. What would be the way to install Windows, Linux and Mac on 1 hard disk. Would that be possible? I would kindly thank you for your answer. Tamer Boot Camp is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-28 Thread Andy Laursen
On Tue, May 28, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Tamer Higazi wrote: Hi! My questions: 1. Do I need bootcamp?! You don't need bootcamp, but it does make the windows install more streamlined. You will probably still want bootcamp to install the apple drivers post-install regardless. The drivers are

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-28 Thread Tamer Higazi
Seems to be that GRUB2 auto detects Snow Leopard partitions. So you are right, installing Mac OS X, then windows, then Linux with Grub2: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/189079-grub2-as-the-only-boot-loader-its-possible/ But there is one more problem at the whole thing.. We can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac Mini with Grub booting Mac OSX and Windows?!

2013-05-28 Thread Andy Laursen
On Tue, May 28, 2013, at 02:21 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: Seems to be that GRUB2 auto detects Snow Leopard partitions. So you are right, installing Mac OS X, then windows, then Linux with Grub2: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/189079-grub2-as-the-only-boot-loader-its-possible/