On Thursday 21 Jul 2011 03:29:17 Adam Carter wrote:
amd64 means any x86 64bit platform, so Intel too.
march=native is good if you're not using distcc, or if you're only
using distcc on core2 boxes. Otherwise be specific.
I recommend using the 64 bit profile (amd64) for = GCC 4.3 which shows
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 06:26 +0100, Mick wrote:
On Thursday 21 Jul 2011 03:29:17 Adam Carter wrote:
amd64 means any x86 64bit platform, so Intel too.
march=native is good if you're not using distcc, or if you're only
using distcc on core2 boxes. Otherwise be specific.
I recommend using
Am 2011-07-21 02:41, schrieb Albert Hopkins:
On Wednesday, July 20 at 23:43 (+0200), Stefan G. Weichinger said:
[...]
Are there any recommended kernel-config-settings for a performant
and non-drifting KVM-server?
Well, KVM_CLOCK obviously:
KVM_CLOCK bool KVM paravirtualized clock
On 07/20/2011 07:33 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Wednesday 20 July 2011 18:36:39 Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 07/20/2011 07:53 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 07/18/2011 11:45 PM, Bill Longman wrote:
On 07/18/2011 06:50 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Monday 18 July 2011 14:30:28
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:34:03 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
I've always wondered why, if portage knows that has to be done, can't
portage just go ahead and do it?
Now that we have a set to do this, I see no reason why this could not
be an option, enabled by a USE flag.
The
-original message-
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New computer and Gentoo
From: Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Date: 2011-07-21 12:54
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 06:26 +0100, Mick wrote:
On Thursday 21 Jul 2011 03:29:17 Adam Carter wrote:
amd64 means any x86 64bit platform, so Intel too.
Am 21.07.2011 10:57, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
-original message-
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New computer and Gentoo
From: Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Date: 2011-07-21 12:54
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 06:26 +0100, Mick wrote:
[...]
Ive just stumbled on something weird with march=native:
At
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 16:21, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:
Am 21.07.2011 10:57, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
-original message-
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New computer and Gentoo
From: Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Date: 2011-07-21 12:54
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 06:26
Am 21.07.2011 11:21, schrieb Florian Philipp:
Am 21.07.2011 10:57, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
-original message-
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New computer and Gentoo
From: Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Date: 2011-07-21 12:54
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 06:26 +0100, Mick wrote:
[...]
Ive just
A little advice please? I am about to build a new box going from athlon dual
core to phenom six core. Including new sata drives and motherboard. I was going
to clone all my partitions and the re emerged all packages with march native
Firstly would you reccommend cloning and if so what is best
On Thursday, July 21 at 10:01 (+), j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk said:
A little advice please? I am about to build a new box going from
athlon dual core to phenom six core. Including new sata drives and
motherboard. I was going to clone all my partitions and the re emerged
all packages with
Am 21.07.2011 12:01, schrieb j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk:
A little advice please? I am about to build a new box going from athlon dual
core to phenom six core. Including new sata drives and motherboard. I was
going to clone all my partitions and the re emerged all packages with march
native
Here we go again. New thread, same problem. I'm compiling info over a
period of time here so bear with me. Info alert:
root@fireball / # emerge --info firefox
Portage 2.2.0_alpha45 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/kde, gcc-4.5.2,
glibc-2.13-r4, 2.6.39-gentoo-r2 x86_64)
Thanks. Rsync sounds like a good option as I can boot pc with old hard disks
installed.
I assume that rsync works ok with ntfs?
Jdm
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-Original Message-
From: Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:18:53
To:
Dale writes:
Here we go again. New thread, same problem. I'm compiling info over a
period of time here so bear with me. Info alert:
[...]
Right now, just look over my info, see if you see anything insane there
and if not, recommend something I can use besides flash. Maybe some
third
j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk writes:
A little advice please? I am about to build a new box going from athlon
dual core to phenom six core. Including new sata drives and motherboard.
I was going to clone all my partitions and the re emerged all packages
with march native
Firstly would you
Greets,
I use x11-terms/terminator most of the time and over the last few days I
noticed that these processes generate a high load on my CPUs.
The processes also seem to hang around even after I close the
terminator-windows!
Rebuilding the pkg (and gnome-terminal as well, just in case) has not
Alex Schuster wrote:
Dale writes:
Here we go again. New thread, same problem. I'm compiling info over a
period of time here so bear with me. Info alert:
[...]
Right now, just look over my info, see if you see anything insane there
and if not, recommend something I can use
On Thursday, July 21 at 11:10 (+), j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk said:
Well, depends on your definition of works.
AFAIK linux does not expose the NFTS permission system fully, because
they are very different and there is no 1:1 mapping between them. So
while the *data* may be copied over, the
- Original Message -From: András Csányi Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2011
4:50 amSubject: [gentoo-user] xfce (window manager)To: gentoo-user Dear All,
I would like to ask the community anybody has experienced any problems
regarding xfce? My problem is that after update the window
Dale writes:
Alex Schuster wrote:
I'd also try other video drivers, like nouveau or nv. I think you did
not do this yet, sorry if I just overlooked it. They may not work as
well as the nvidia-drivers for you, but this way you can rule out the
video drivers, or confirm it has something
On Thursday 21 July 2011 05:54:32 Dale wrote:
I been working on gathering information for this for a while. I just
tried something else. I use the download helper plugin in Firefox to
download videos. Also, it crashes when I am downloading videos but that
is about all I use Firefox for.
On Thursday 21 July 2011 05:54:32 Dale wrote:
Right now, just look over my info, see if you see anything insane there
and if not, recommend something I can use besides flash. Maybe some
third party thing that works reasonably well. If youtube works, I
should be good to go since the sites
The 21/07/11, Dale wrote:
I have not been able to get the nv drivers to work. It has been so
long since I had to use them, it appears I have forgot how to use
them. I'm not sure I have ever used them since I been using Gentoo.
Try VESA.
As for Firefox-bin, I'm not sure that would help
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 11:21 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 21.07.2011 10:57, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
-original message-
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New computer and Gentoo
From: Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Date: 2011-07-21 12:54
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 06:26 +0100, Mick wrote:
On Thursday 21 July 2011 12:20:30 Florian Philipp wrote:
Also, udev will usually detect your network interfaces as new interfaces
and give them different numbers (eth1 instead of eth0 and so on).
You can solve this by deleting the respective entries in the udev config:
**
$ cat
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Greets,
I use x11-terms/terminator most of the time and over the last few days I
noticed that these processes generate a high load on my CPUs.
The processes also seem to hang around even after I close the
Am 21.07.2011 15:10, schrieb William Kenworthy:
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 11:21 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 21.07.2011 10:57, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
-original message-
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New computer and Gentoo
From: Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Date: 2011-07-21 12:54
On Thu,
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:41:31 -0500, Dale wrote:
I have not been able to get the nv drivers to work. It has been so
long since I had to use them, it appears I have forgot how to use
them. I'm not sure I have ever used them since I been using Gentoo. I
found the link on the xorg site. It
On 21.07.2011 13:23, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Greets,
I use x11-terms/terminator most of the time and over the last few days I
noticed that these processes generate a high load on my CPUs.
The processes also seem to hang around even after I close the
terminator-windows!
Rebuilding
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:41:31 -0500, Dale wrote:
I have not been able to get the nv drivers to work. It has been so
long since I had to use them, it appears I have forgot how to use
them. I'm not sure I have ever used them since I been using Gentoo. I
found the link
Joost Roeleveld wrote:
On Thursday 21 July 2011 05:54:32 Dale wrote:
I been working on gathering information for this for a while. I just
tried something else. I use the download helper plugin in Firefox to
download videos. Also, it crashes when I am downloading videos but that
is about
On 7/20/2011 6:29 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
Also, run a caching proxy if at all possible. That made the single
biggest difference for my server.
Other useful things:
* Set the MaxRequestsPerChild to something like 450.
That's pretty low. You'd barely get your application parsed, cached,
and
Joost Roeleveld wrote:
On Thursday 21 July 2011 05:54:32 Dale wrote:
Right now, just look over my info, see if you see anything insane there
and if not, recommend something I can use besides flash. Maybe some
third party thing that works reasonably well. If youtube works, I
should be good
On 07/21/2011 04:57 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:34:03 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
I've always wondered why, if portage knows that has to be done, can't
portage just go ahead and do it?
Now that we have a set to do this, I see no reason why this could not
be an
I ran into an out of memory problem. The first mention of it in the
kernel log is mysqld invoked oom-killer. I haven't run into this
before. I do have a swap partition but I don't activate it based
on something I read previously that I later found out was wrong so
I suppose I should
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:13:09 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
That seems to be discussing ABI changes. The X drivers situation is
different. Also, that issue has largely been resolved, in as much as
ABI changes don't break things like they used to, with
@preserved-rebuild.
Huh?
I ran into an out of memory problem. The first mention of it in the
kernel log is mysqld invoked oom-killer. I haven't run into this
before. I do have a swap partition but I don't activate it based on
something I read previously that I later found out was wrong so I
suppose I should
I ran into an out of memory problem. The first mention of it in the
kernel log is mysqld invoked oom-killer. I haven't run into this
before. I do have a swap partition but I don't activate it based on
something I read previously that I later found out was wrong so I
suppose I should
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Alan, I think it was your advice I took a long time ago when I
stopped installing new machines with a swap partition and disabled it
on my already-installed machines. Some time later, others on this
list caught wind of
Hi Alan, I think it was your advice I took a long time ago when I
stopped installing new machines with a swap partition and disabled it
on my already-installed machines. Some time later, others on this
list caught wind of what I'd done and told me I was an idiot. Is
there a consensus on
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Paul. I'm leaning toward leaving swap disabled. So I'm sure I
have the concept right, is adding a 1GB swap partition functionally
identical to adding 1GB RAM with regard to the potential for
out-of-memory conditions?
I ran into an out of memory problem. The first mention of it in the
kernel log is mysqld invoked oom-killer. I haven't run into this
before. I do have a swap partition but I don't activate it based on
something I read previously that I later found out was wrong so I
suppose I should
* Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [110721 12:33]:
[..]
I think if you have 4GB of RAM you shouldn't need any swap under
normal circumstances. I have a gentoo box with just 256MB of RAM
that's running web server (apache + php), mail server (postfix +
dovecot), and database (mariadb),
Thanks Paul. I'm leaning toward leaving swap disabled. So I'm sure I
have the concept right, is adding a 1GB swap partition functionally
identical to adding 1GB RAM with regard to the potential for
out-of-memory conditions?
Yep.
It sounds like adding physical RAM is better than enabling
[..]
I think if you have 4GB of RAM you shouldn't need any swap under
normal circumstances. I have a gentoo box with just 256MB of RAM
that's running web server (apache + php), mail server (postfix +
dovecot), and database (mariadb), and it works fine if i disable swap.
I do normally have
On 7/21/2011 9:53 AM, Grant wrote:
Next I'd look at tuning your Mysql config. If you've never touched
my.cnf, by default it's set to use 64MB IIRC. You may need to raise this to
get better performance. key_buffer and innodb_buffer_pool_size are the only
two I'd modify without knowing
On Thursday 21 July 2011 10:01:10 j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk wrote:
A little advice please? I am about to build a new box going from athlon dual
core to phenom six core. Including new sata drives and motherboard. I was
going to clone all my partitions and the re emerged all packages with march
On 7/21/2011 10:22 AM, Grant wrote:
I ran into an out of memory problem. The first mention of it in the
kernel log is mysqld invoked oom-killer. I haven't run into this
before. I do have a swap partition but I don't activate it based on
something I read previously that I later found out was
Whatever Dale had on his machine must have infected mine! LOL!
A 32bit x86 box with KDE4.6, running firefox-3.6.17 and xulrunner-1.9.2.17
after a few hours and loads of tabs (sometimes up to 15 or so) eventually
hangs X.
I can switch to a console and login as the user running the X session,
Am 21.07.2011 16:21, schrieb Poncho:
If you have the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.19 installed, your issue
may be related to
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375615
Thanks for the pointer, I downgraded the drivers, looks better so far!
Stefan
Mick wrote:
Whatever Dale had on his machine must have infected mine! LOL!
A 32bit x86 box with KDE4.6, running firefox-3.6.17 and xulrunner-1.9.2.17
after a few hours and loads of tabs (sometimes up to 15 or so) eventually
hangs X.
I can switch to a console and login as the user running the
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:56 AM, kashani kashani-l...@badapple.net wrote:
On 7/20/2011 6:29 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
Also, run a caching proxy if at all possible. That made the single
biggest difference for my server.
Other useful things:
* Set the MaxRequestsPerChild to something like 450.
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:46:55 -0500, Dale wrote:
You could also try the VESA drivers, slow but reliable.
OK. How do I do the VESA drivers? Honestly, the only trouble I can
recall out of nvidia was upgrading the kernel then rebooting and
realizing I forgot to rebuild against the new
On 07/21/2011 11:38 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 07/20/2011 07:33 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Is it a matter of waiting a bit longer?
Yes, I think he'll be eligible for parole beginning 2023.
please refrain yourself from idiotic remarks like this.
Everyone *knows* he's got full
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:46:55 -0500, Dale wrote:
You could also try the VESA drivers, slow but reliable.
OK. How do I do the VESA drivers? Honestly, the only trouble I can
recall out of nvidia was upgrading the kernel then rebooting and
realizing I forgot
Dale asks:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:41:31 -0500, Dale wrote:
I have not been able to get the nv drivers to work. It has been so
long since I had to use them, it appears I have forgot how to use
them. I'm not sure I have ever used them since I been using Gentoo. I
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:14:11 -0500, Dale wrote:
It's the standard video driver, x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa
And I change nvidia to vesa or do I need to unmerge nvidia first?
If you keep xorg.conf, change it to use vesa.
Also, are these done as modules like nvidia is? Hmmm, if I
Alex Schuster wrote:
Dale asks:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:41:31 -0500, Dale wrote:
I have not been able to get the nv drivers to work. It has been so
long since I had to use them, it appears I have forgot how to use
them. I'm not sure I have ever used
Dale wrote:
Thanks. I remembered after hitting reply to set it in make.conf. I
got some done anyway. I'll report back what blows up. O_O
Dale
:-) :-)
OoooK. That didn't work to well. Using VESA, the screen was ALL messed
up. It was mostly garbage to say it lightly. I also tried
On 7/21/2011 11:55 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:56 AM, kashanikashani-l...@badapple.net wrote:
On 7/20/2011 6:29 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
Also, run a caching proxy if at all possible. That made the single
biggest difference for my server.
Other useful things:
* Set the
On Thursday 21 July 2011 09:39:52 Grant did opine thusly:
My personal rule of thumb: if you hit swap, the bad thing has
already gone very very south, usually to the point where you
can't do much about it and it's already too late. Besides, that
bastard deomon spawn of satan called the
On Thursday 21 July 2011 10:30:21 Grant did opine thusly:
[..]
I think if you have 4GB of RAM you shouldn't need any swap
under
normal circumstances. I have a gentoo box with just 256MB of
RAM
that's running web server (apache + php), mail server (postfix
+
dovecot), and
On Thursday 21 July 2011 10:27:58 Grant did opine thusly:
Thanks Paul. I'm leaning toward leaving swap disabled. So
I'm sure I have the concept right, is adding a 1GB swap
partition functionally identical to adding 1GB RAM with
regard to the potential for out-of-memory conditions?
On 07/21/2011 11:58 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Just trying to lighten the mood, don't take it the wrong way.
So... why didn't he partition his wife if he didn't want her to be found?
I think his fragment size was too large.
Next I'd look at tuning your Mysql config. If you've never touched
my.cnf, by default it's set to use 64MB IIRC. You may need to raise this
to
get better performance. key_buffer and innodb_buffer_pool_size are the
only
two I'd modify without knowing more.
I use the default MyISAM
I ran into an out of memory problem. The first mention of it in the
kernel log is mysqld invoked oom-killer. I haven't run into this
before. I do have a swap partition but I don't activate it based on
something I read previously that I later found out was wrong so I
suppose I should
Also, run a caching proxy if at all possible. That made the single
biggest difference for my server.
Other useful things:
* Set the MaxRequestsPerChild to something like 450.
That's pretty low. You'd barely get your application parsed, cached,
and load some data before you'd have to
Next I'd look at tuning your Mysql config. If you've never touched
my.cnf, by default it's set to use 64MB IIRC. You may need to raise this
to
get better performance. key_buffer and innodb_buffer_pool_size are the
only
two I'd modify without knowing more.
I use the default MyISAM
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:18:34 -0500, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Kernel panics and more info:
OoooK. That didn't work to well. Using VESA, the screen was ALL
messed up. It was mostly garbage to say it lightly. I also tried
the nv driver again, all I got was a blinking cursor. I
On 07/21/2011 01:18 PM, Dale wrote:
Dale wrote:
Using VESA, the screen was ALL
messed up. It was mostly garbage to say it lightly. I also tried
the nv driver again, all I got was a blinking cursor. I don't think
it even tried to do anything.
If you have your opengl set to nvidia, you
On Thursday, July 21 at 10:27 (-0700), Grant said:
It sounds like adding physical RAM is better than enabling swap in
every way. I'll stay in the anti-swap camp.
I don't see why it has to be one way *or* the other...
Yes more RAM is always going to be better than more swap, RAM is just
way
On 07/21/2011 11:38 AM, Mick wrote:
Whatever Dale had on his machine must have infected mine! LOL!
A 32bit x86 box with KDE4.6, running firefox-3.6.17 and xulrunner-1.9.2.17
after a few hours and loads of tabs (sometimes up to 15 or so) eventually
hangs X.
I can switch to a console and
On 07/20/2011 10:54 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
So not sure about march=native now as it is only what was built with
native thats been problematic.
Makes me wonder if gcc and glibc need to be recompiled with arch=native
before rebuilding the rest of the system?
On 7/21/2011 2:50 PM, Grant wrote:
Any reason you're still using MyISAM tables? Innodb is almost as fast
or much much faster than MyISAM in nearly every way these days.
Can multiple processes be utilized for mysql like they are for
apache2? Perhaps not since it's a database?
Mysql
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:13:11 -0700, Bill Longman wrote:
Just trying to lighten the mood, don't take it the wrong way.
So... why didn't he partition his wife if he didn't want her to be
found?
I think his fragment size was too large.
I thought she disappeared without a trace, but
walt wrote:
On 07/21/2011 01:18 PM, Dale wrote:
Dale wrote:
Using VESA, the screen was ALL
messed up. It was mostly garbage to say it lightly. I also tried
the nv driver again, all I got was a blinking cursor. I don't think
it even tried to do anything.
If you have your
On 07/21/2011 04:49 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Thursday 21 July 2011 10:27:58 Grant did opine thusly:
Thanks Paul. I'm leaning toward leaving swap disabled. So
I'm sure I have the concept right, is adding a 1GB swap
partition functionally identical to adding 1GB RAM with
regard to the
...
I would strongly advise you to make your own measurements and heed
your own counsel. I can only speak from my own experience, and I may
well be speaking a whole load of codswallop. Or I may be right and the
opposing view is wrong. Who's to tell?
My own experience with backing swap has
On 07/21/2011 02:58 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 07/21/2011 11:38 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 07/20/2011 07:33 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Is it a matter of waiting a bit longer?
Yes, I think he'll be eligible for parole beginning 2023.
please refrain yourself from idiotic remarks
[..]
I think if you have 4GB of RAM you shouldn't need any swap
under
normal circumstances. I have a gentoo box with just 256MB of
RAM
that's running web server (apache + php), mail server (postfix
+
dovecot), and database (mariadb), and it works fine if i
disable swap. I do
On Thursday 21 July 2011 16:27:03 Grant did opine thusly:
[..]
I think if you have 4GB of RAM you shouldn't need any
swap
under
normal circumstances. I have a gentoo box with just
256MB of
RAM
that's running web server (apache + php), mail server
(postfix +
On Thursday 21 July 2011 19:19:07 Michael Orlitzky did opine thusly:
On 07/21/2011 04:49 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Thursday 21 July 2011 10:27:58 Grant did opine thusly:
Thanks Paul. I'm leaning toward leaving swap disabled.
So
I'm sure I have the concept right, is adding a 1GB swap
Dale wrote:
walt wrote:
On 07/21/2011 01:18 PM, Dale wrote:
Dale wrote:
Using VESA, the screen was ALL
messed up. It was mostly garbage to say it lightly. I also tried
the nv driver again, all I got was a blinking cursor. I don't think
it even tried to do anything.
If you have your opengl
It sounds like adding physical RAM is better than enabling swap in
every way. I'll stay in the anti-swap camp.
I don't see why it has to be one way *or* the other...
Yes more RAM is always going to be better than more swap, RAM is just
way faster than disk, however byte-per-byte, disk is
Any reason you're still using MyISAM tables? Innodb is almost as
fast
or much much faster than MyISAM in nearly every way these days.
Can multiple processes be utilized for mysql like they are for
apache2? Perhaps not since it's a database?
Mysql is multithreaded and spawns
On 7/21/2011 4:53 PM, Grant wrote:
So swap isn't treated exactly like RAM. It actually has special
handling in Linux which makes it beneficial to have on almost any
Linux system? According to Alan, things get very bad when a Linux
system hits swap. How can behavior like this be beneficial:
On 7/21/2011 5:14 PM, Grant wrote:
Any reason you're still using MyISAM tables? Innodb is almost as
fast
or much much faster than MyISAM in nearly every way these days.
Can multiple processes be utilized for mysql like they are for
apache2? Perhaps not since it's a database?
So swap isn't treated exactly like RAM. It actually has special
handling in Linux which makes it beneficial to have on almost any
Linux system? According to Alan, things get very bad when a Linux
system hits swap. How can behavior like this be beneficial:
When a linux machine hits swap,
apache MaxClients has been lowered to 50 which is a shame because I
have 30+ separate images on each of my pages and that number can not
be reduced. This means I may not be able to serve more than 1 full
page at a time.
This is wrong.
Agreed. From TFM; The MaxClients directive sets
Any reason you're still using MyISAM tables? Innodb is almost as
fast
or much much faster than MyISAM in nearly every way these days.
Can multiple processes be utilized for mysql like they are for
apache2? Perhaps not since it's a database?
Mysql is multithreaded and spawns
OK, how about I enable a 512MB swap file and keep an eye on it. As
long as I'm not using more than 200MB, I'm not suffering from disk
swap slowdown, right?
Its more how much i/o rather than the size. If you have a bunch of
stuff swapped out, but it hardly ever needs to be swapped in, the
On Thursday, July 21 at 16:53 (-0700), Grant said:
So swap isn't treated exactly like RAM. It actually has special
handling in Linux which makes it beneficial to have on almost any
Linux system? According to Alan, things get very bad when a Linux
system hits swap. How can behavior like
On Friday, July 22 at 10:56 (+1000), Adam Carter said:
Its more how much i/o rather than the size. If you have a bunch of
stuff swapped out, but it hardly ever needs to be swapped in, the
impact will be low.
Keep an eye on the use with vmstat;
adam@rix ~ $ vmstat 5
procs
apache MaxClients has been lowered to 50 which is a shame because I
have 30+ separate images on each of my pages and that number can not
be reduced. This means I may not be able to serve more than 1 full
page at a time.
This is wrong.
Agreed. From TFM; The MaxClients directive sets
Its more how much i/o rather than the size. If you have a bunch of
stuff swapped out, but it hardly ever needs to be swapped in, the
impact will be low.
Keep an eye on the use with vmstat;
adam@rix ~ $ vmstat 5
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system--
cpu
I'm trying to figure out the maximum number of apache2 processes that
could run simultaneously according to my config so I don't run out of
memory again. I have KeepAlive on, but I can see in the log that a
different pid serves each file associated with a particular page
request.
Ok, I
So swap isn't treated exactly like RAM. It actually has special
handling in Linux which makes it beneficial to have on almost any
Linux system? According to Alan, things get very bad when a Linux
system hits swap. How can behavior like this be beneficial:
When a linux machine hits swap,
I'm trying to figure out the maximum number of apache2 processes that
could run simultaneously according to my config so I don't run out of
memory again. I have KeepAlive on, but I can see in the log that a
different pid serves each file associated with a particular page
request.
Ok, I
On Thursday, July 21 at 18:29 (-0700), Grant said:
Then why not have a really big swap file? If swap is useful as a
second layer of caching behind RAM, why doesn't everyone with some
extra hard drive space have a 100GB swap file?
You've not understood what I said, I think. Swap is not
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