Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Oct 6, 2011 11:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mick wrote: On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 20:42:43 Dale wrote: Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: most of the oh it's so weird-whining often comes

Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants to remove less and nano

2011-10-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 22:19:44 -0400 Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 10/06/2011 10:06 PM, Dale wrote: One would think that if it is the selected and only one installed, it wouldn't try to remove it. Isn't this what virtuals are for? Portage needs one pager from the

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am 07.10.2011 02:55, schrieb Michael Orlitzky: On 10/06/11 19:42, Jonas de Buhr wrote: If we have some grub-legacy and some grub2 installs, why would you do that? Eventually, grub2 will be all that's available from portage. At that point, I can either, 1) Install grub2 on some machines. 2)

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 01:08:24 +0100 Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Thursday 06 October 2011 17:40:33 Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 06.10.2011 17:25, schrieb Michael Mol: Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it? It's not c which is in doubt, but its function as

[gentoo-user] kscd-4.7.2 fails to build

2011-10-07 Thread Dale
is located at '/var/log/portage/kde-base:kscd-4.7.2:20111007-075837.log'. * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kscd-4.7.2/temp/environment'. * S: '/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kscd-4.7.2/work/kscd-4.7.2' Failed to emerge kde-base/kscd-4.7.2, Log file: '/var/log

Re: [gentoo-user] kscd-4.7.2 fails to build

2011-10-07 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am 07.10.2011 10:03, schrieb Dale: /usr/lib64/libneon.so.27: undefined reference to `gnutls_certificate_verify_peers' gnutls_certificate_verify_peers is deprecated in gnutls. you could try emerging net-libs/neon with USE=-gnutls ssl for a quick workaround.

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:55:05 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: How much work would it be for you to, * Learn grub2 About the same as it would be for you, very little. The config has moved from /boot/grub to /etc/grub.d and the syntax has changed slightly. Note that, BY DEFAULT, grub2 comes

Re: [gentoo-user] kscd-4.7.2 fails to build SOLVED

2011-10-07 Thread Dale
Jonas de Buhr wrote: Am 07.10.2011 10:03, schrieb Dale: /usr/lib64/libneon.so.27: undefined reference to `gnutls_certificate_verify_peers' gnutls_certificate_verify_peers is deprecated in gnutls. you could try emerging net-libs/neon with USE=-gnutls ssl for a quick workaround. For

Re: [gentoo-user] kscd-4.7.2 fails to build SOLVED

2011-10-07 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am 07.10.2011 10:47, schrieb Dale: Jonas de Buhr wrote: Am 07.10.2011 10:03, schrieb Dale: /usr/lib64/libneon.so.27: undefined reference to `gnutls_certificate_verify_peers' gnutls_certificate_verify_peers is deprecated in gnutls. you could try emerging net-libs/neon with USE=-gnutls ssl

Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants to remove less and nano

2011-10-07 Thread Niccolò Belli
Il 06/10/2011 23:09, David Abbott ha scritto: To see your default editor and pager; eselect editor list eselect pager list It's strange, there was no defaults editor and pager... laptop ~ # eselect editor list eselect pager list Available targets for the EDITOR variable: [1] /bin/nano

Re: [gentoo-user] kscd-4.7.2 fails to build SOLVED

2011-10-07 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Hi Dale, if you want, you can try mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/net-libs cp -ax /usr/portage/net-libs/neon /usr/local/portage/net-libs/ echo 'PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage' /etc/make.conf mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/net-libs/ cp verify_peer2.patch /usr/local/portage/net-libs/files/

Re: [gentoo-user] kscd-4.7.2 fails to build SOLVED

2011-10-07 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am 07.10.2011 12:31, schrieb Jonas de Buhr: mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/net-libs/ should have been mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/net-libs/files of course. cp verify_peer2.patch /usr/local/portage/net-libs/files/ i will stop spamming now :)

Re: [gentoo-user] kscd-4.7.2 fails to build SOLVED

2011-10-07 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:44:20 +0200 schrieb Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net: Am 07.10.2011 12:31, schrieb Jonas de Buhr: mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/net-libs/ should have been nope, that was still wrong... mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/net-libs/neon/files cp verify_peer2.patch

Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants to remove less and nano

2011-10-07 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 11:15:33AM +0200, Niccolò Belli wrote: Il 06/10/2011 23:09, David Abbott ha scritto: To see your default editor and pager; eselect editor list eselect pager list It's strange, there was no defaults editor and pager... laptop ~ # eselect editor list eselect pager

Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants to remove less and nano

2011-10-07 Thread Niccolò Belli
Il 07/10/2011 13:25, Willie Wong ha scritto: Most likely you've never set them. Shouldn't it ship with a default setting? Anyway even after setting a default, portage still wants to remove both less and nano. I had to put them in the world set. Niccolò

[gentoo-user] prelink errors

2011-10-07 Thread Niccolò Belli
I do use libreoffice-bin, but not firefox-bin and thinderbird-bin (I do compile them from source). I already tried revdep-rebuild and lafilefixer, even emerge -ave @world but nothing changes. Thanks, Niccolò laptop ~ # prelink -amR prelink: /usr/bin/lddlibc4: Using /lib32/ld-linux.so.2, not

Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants to remove less and nano

2011-10-07 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 13:30 +0200, Niccolò Belli wrote: Il 07/10/2011 13:25, Willie Wong ha scritto: Most likely you've never set them. Shouldn't it ship with a default setting? Anyway even after setting a default, portage still wants to remove both less and nano. I had to put them in

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I power disk off?

2011-10-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 6, 2011 9:06 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 6,

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/07/2011 04:47 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:55:05 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: How much work would it be for you to, * Learn grub2 About the same as it would be for you, very little. Granted, this is the easy one on my list.

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/07/2011 03:36 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: Am 07.10.2011 02:55, schrieb Michael Orlitzky: On 10/06/11 19:42, Jonas de Buhr wrote: If we have some grub-legacy and some grub2 installs, why would you do that? Eventually, grub2 will be all that's available from portage. At that point, I can

Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants to remove less and nano

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/07/2011 03:30 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Didn't we thrash this one to death already 2 months ago? Wasn't Zac's response that virtuals are inappropriate in the system set? I didn't pay too much attention back then, but for your second question, these are all @system:

Re: [gentoo-user] kscd-4.7.2 fails to build SOLVED

2011-10-07 Thread Dale
Jonas de Buhr wrote: Am Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:44:20 +0200 schrieb Jonas de Buhrjonas.de.b...@gmx.net: Am 07.10.2011 12:31, schrieb Jonas de Buhr: mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/net-libs/ should have been nope, that was still wrong... mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/net-libs/neon/files cp

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Michael. On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:55:05PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/06/11 19:42, Jonas de Buhr wrote: If we have some grub-legacy and some grub2 installs, why would you do that? Eventually, grub2 will be all that's available from portage. At that point, I can either,

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Brennan Shacklett
Python2 will stick around because most packages (portage!) don't work with python3. Grub doesn't have the same problem. Just to be pedantic, portage uses python3 if the python3 use flag is enabled.

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/07/2011 10:29 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Why don't you upgrade to lilo instead? It's got a single configuration file which is short and relatively simple, and it just works. My lilo.conf has 50 non-comment/space lines, and that includes 8 kernel versions. Why don't I avoid

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/07/2011 10:46 AM, Brennan Shacklett wrote: Python2 will stick around because most packages (portage!) don't work with python3. Grub doesn't have the same problem. Just to be pedantic, portage uses python3 if the python3 use flag is enabled. That's not being pedantic; it

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Dale
Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/07/2011 10:29 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Why don't you upgrade to lilo instead? It's got a single configuration file which is short and relatively simple, and it just works. My lilo.conf has 50 non-comment/space lines, and that includes 8 kernel versions. Why

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/07/2011 10:29 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Why don't you upgrade to lilo instead?  It's got a single configuration file which is short and relatively simple, and it just works.  My lilo.conf has 50

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-07 Thread Diego Augusto Molina
Have sex! That's the first thing you can do to keep your mind out of madness. Really, look at the benefits of having sex and you'll see it's a complete excercise for body, obviously you have to excercise your social skills and has some really cool consecuences on your body, methabolism, etc. (just

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the most error resistant filesystem?

2011-10-07 Thread Diego Augusto Molina
I had tons of problems with ReiserFS-3.6 in the past. Many, many problems when suddenly going out of power... -- Diego Augusto Molina diegoaugustomol...@gmail.com ES: Por favor, evite adjuntar documentos de Microsoft Office. Serán desestimados. EN: Please, avoid attaching Microsoft Office

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:59:54 -0400 schrieb Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com: On 10/07/2011 03:36 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: Am 07.10.2011 02:55, schrieb Michael Orlitzky: On 10/06/11 19:42, Jonas de Buhr wrote: If we have some grub-legacy and some grub2 installs, why would you do

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/07/2011 12:16 PM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: out of interest: why do you have different configs? even if you have different hardware you could still build a one fits all-kernel. or are they that specialized? We share kernel config whenever possible, but there are a few cases where they

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-07 Thread Andrey Moshbear
Sex? Ysex? Are you aware that this is gentoo-users that you're posting in? :P On 2011-10-07, Diego Augusto Molina diegoaugustomol...@gmail.com wrote: Have sex! That's the first thing you can do to keep your mind out of madness. Really, look at the benefits of having sex and you'll see it's a

[gentoo-user] Re: prelink errors

2011-10-07 Thread walt
On 10/07/2011 04:32 AM, Niccolò Belli wrote: laptop ~ # prelink -amR prelink: /usr/bin/lddlibc4: Using /lib32/ld-linux.so.2, not /lib/ld-linux.so.2 as dynamic linker prelink: /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: Could not parse `/usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: error

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: prelink errors

2011-10-07 Thread Niccolò Belli
Il 07/10/2011 20:44, walt ha scritto: I don't know very much about prelink, but I wonder about using a 32-bit linker to load a 64-bit library? That sounds wrong to me. Is prelink a 32-bit program? Is there maybe a 64-bit prelink on the same machine? What is actually in your prelink package?

[gentoo-user] Re: prelink errors

2011-10-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/07/2011 09:44 PM, walt wrote: On 10/07/2011 04:32 AM, Niccolò Belli wrote: laptop ~ # prelink -amR prelink: /usr/bin/lddlibc4: Using /lib32/ld-linux.so.2, not /lib/ld-linux.so.2 as dynamic linker prelink: /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin: Could not parse

[gentoo-user] Re: prelink errors

2011-10-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/07/2011 02:32 PM, Niccolò Belli wrote: I do use libreoffice-bin, but not firefox-bin and thinderbird-bin (I do compile them from source). I already tried revdep-rebuild and lafilefixer, even emerge -ave @world but nothing changes. Thanks, Niccolò laptop ~ # prelink -amR prelink:

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-07, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: In the end, udev was making huge advances, and HAL could not keep up simply because the other Operating Systems didn't have similar capabilities, so the consumers of HAL (desktop systems, mostly) started to use udev directly. That

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-07, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 10/07/2011 03:36 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: Am 07.10.2011 02:55, schrieb Michael Orlitzky: On 10/06/11 19:42, Jonas de Buhr wrote: If we have some grub-legacy and some grub2 installs, why would you do that? Eventually, grub2 will

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: change and improvement

2011-10-07 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2011-10-07, Canek Pel??ez Vald??scan...@gmail.com wrote: In the end, udev was making huge advances, and HAL could not keep up simply because the other Operating Systems didn't have similar capabilities, so the consumers of HAL (desktop systems, mostly) started to use

[gentoo-user] inkscape emerge

2011-10-07 Thread James
Hello, I read somewhere that inkscape (in portage) can open and allow some manipulation of Visio files. Anyone got any experience with inkscape and visio files? Emerging inkscape, it required 12 new packages to be install too. What must I do to ensure that when I unemerge inkscape, the other

Re: [gentoo-user] inkscape emerge

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I read somewhere that inkscape (in portage) can open and allow some manipulation of Visio files. Anyone got any experience with inkscape and visio files? Haven't messed with visio files in years, and then only with

Re: [gentoo-user] inkscape emerge

2011-10-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Remove the -p to have portage go ahead and try to remove them. (But you might see something you want to have remain, which is why you should use -p first) Or use -a instead of -p. That way it asks you if you want to proceed

[gentoo-user] Re: inkscape emerge

2011-10-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-07, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:32 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I read somewhere that inkscape (in portage) can open and allow some manipulation of Visio files. Anyone got any experience with inkscape and visio files?

[gentoo-user] Re: inkscape emerge

2011-10-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-07, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-07, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: emerge -p --depclean will show you what packages are installed which you didn't explicitly ask for, and which are no longer depended upon by any explicitly-selected packages.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: inkscape emerge

2011-10-07 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2011-10-07, Michael Molmike...@gmail.com wrote: Remove the -p to have portage go ahead and try to remove them. (But you might see something you want to have remain, which is why you should use -p first) If you do see packages that you want to keep, but aren't required

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange partition on USB stick

2011-10-07 Thread Klaus Müller
Am 04.10.11 00:15, Mick wrote: I can't recall if I asked this before, but I am looking at a partition on a USB stick which seems to have a FAT16 fs on it and in parted says: == Model: Crucial Gizmo! overdrive (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 1023MB

[gentoo-user] Banshee, MTP, hotplug, no GNOME

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Mol
So, I have a Motorola Xoom. Unlike almost every other USB device I've used, the Xoom appears to the USB host using the MTP protocol, rather than the USB Mass Storage profile. What this means is that there won't be any /dev/sd* device popping up for me to mount and copy files around. I've emerged

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

2011-10-07 Thread Tamer Higazi
dear Valdáez! I still didn't mention to say thank you very much for all of your support. It works, and that wonderfully. I deeply apologize answering that late, I was the last days sick and couldn't answer anyone. Listening to music works fine, only the mic doesn't work :( Tamer Am 29.09.2011

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

2011-10-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Tamer Higazi th9...@googlemail.com wrote: dear Valdáez! I still didn't mention to say thank you very much for all of your support. It works, and that wonderfully. I deeply apologize answering that late, I was the last days sick and couldn't answer anyone. No

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-07 Thread Pandu Poluan
On 2011-10-07, Diego Augusto Molina diegoaugustomol...@gmail.com wrote: Have sex! That's the first thing you can do to keep your mind out of madness. Really, look at the benefits of having sex and you'll see it's a complete excercise for body, obviously you have to excercise your social

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-07 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On 2011-10-07, Diego Augusto Molina diegoaugustomol...@gmail.com wrote: Have sex! That's the first thing you can do to keep your mind out of madness. Really, look at the benefits of having sex and you'll see it's a

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-07 Thread Andrey Moshbear
Xkcd 456 much? On 2011-10-07, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On 2011-10-07, Diego Augusto Molina diegoaugustomol...@gmail.com wrote: Have sex! That's the first thing you can do to keep your mind out of madness.

[gentoo-user] TMux bindkey with -

2011-10-07 Thread meino . cramer
Hi here http://blog.hawkhost.com/2010/06/28/tmux-the-terminal-multiplexer/ I found the hint to do the following key binding: unbind % bind | split-window -h bind – split-window -v But doing so results in the following message on the console, when starting tmux

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2011-10-07 Thread chen_changm...@163.com