Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RFC : fast copying of a whole directory tree

2012-02-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 13.02.2012 16:31, schrieb Grant Edwards: On 2012-02-13, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 02/13/12 05:49, Helmut Jarausch wrote: I've written a small Python program which outputs the file names in i-node order. If this is fed into tar or cpio nearly no seeks are required

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RFC : fast copying of a whole directory tree

2012-02-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Even if the i-nodes are sequential on-disk, there's no reason to think that the data blocks associated with the inodes are in any particular order with respect to the i-nodes themselves. You could probably find the intended order by using

[gentoo-user] Switching to clocksource tsc: takes AGES on boot

2012-02-14 Thread LK
Hi, How do i get rid of that? It takes one minute on boot, that is awful. PS: How do i deamonize a service on startup? DHCPCD for example? Thanks in advance!

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching to clocksource tsc: takes AGES on boot

2012-02-14 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 14/02/12 12:48, LK wrote: Hi, How do i get rid of that? It takes one minute on boot, that is awful. If you boot with acpi=off, does the problem go away? What kernel version are you using? PS: How do i deamonize a service on startup? DHCPCD for example? It has a service. You add it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching to clocksource tsc: takes AGES on boot

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 13:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 14/02/12 12:48, LK wrote: How do i get rid of that? It takes one minute on boot, that is awful. If you boot with acpi=off, does the problem go away? What kernel version are you using? No it does not. After the root=/dev/sda5, in grub

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching to clocksource tsc: takes AGES on boot

2012-02-14 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 14/02/12 14:15, LK wrote: On 120214, at 13:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 14/02/12 12:48, LK wrote: How do i get rid of that? It takes one minute on boot, that is awful. If you boot with acpi=off, does the problem go away? What kernel version are you using? No it does not. After the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RFC : fast copying of a whole directory tree

2012-02-14 Thread Mick
On 13 February 2012 22:11, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:   This works because there are two decoupled processes, shared memory between   them and the fact that star reads names from directories in one big chunk.  

[gentoo-user] Failing to compile hydrogen

2012-02-14 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I tried to compile hydrogen and it fails with this: /rootemerge hydrogen Calculating dependencies... done! Verifying ebuild manifests Emerging (1 of 1) media-sound/hydrogen-0.9.5 * hydrogen-0.9.5.tar.gz RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Failing to compile hydrogen

2012-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:58:49 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I tried to compile hydrogen and it fails with this: /rootemerge hydrogen Calculating dependencies... done! Verifying ebuild manifests Emerging (1 of 1) media-sound/hydrogen-0.9.5 * hydrogen-0.9.5.tar.gz

[gentoo-user] Re: Failing to compile hydrogen

2012-02-14 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:58:49 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: How can I circumvent the problem? I can't vouch for it, but there's a patch attached to the bug. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372003

[gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread james
Googling around, I get the impression that 'grub' is now grub 2. Is that correct? In portage I see grub-static (GRUB Legacy boot loader) with version numbers that coincide with grub (grub2 ?). If grub2 has replaced grub-1 what (gentoo) version number did grub2 first take take? What was the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: RFC : fast copying of a whole directory tree

2012-02-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.02.2012 10:57, schrieb Joerg Schilling: Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Even if the i-nodes are sequential on-disk, there's no reason to think that the data blocks associated with the inodes are in any particular order with respect to the i-nodes themselves. You could

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.02.2012 18:36, schrieb james: Googling around, I get the impression that 'grub' is now grub 2. Is that correct? In portage I see grub-static (GRUB Legacy boot loader) with version numbers that coincide with grub (grub2 ?). If grub2 has replaced grub-1 what (gentoo) version

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Stefano Crocco
Il giorno Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:36:28 + (UTC) james wirel...@tampabay.rr.com ha scritto: Googling around, I get the impression that 'grub' is now grub 2. Is that correct? In portage I see grub-static (GRUB Legacy boot loader) with version numbers that coincide with grub (grub2 ?).

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 18:53, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 14.02.2012 18:36, schrieb james: Googling around, I get the impression that 'grub' is now grub 2. Is that correct? [...] Because it is still in development hell, it has not reached version 2.00. BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo /

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? Does that matter(it is boot, no network stuff) ? GRUB Legacy (that is, GRUB versions 0.xx) is still the default in Gentoo. In order to use GRUB 2 (that is, GRUB version 1.99 in Portage)

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 19:24, m...@trausch.us wrote: On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? Does that matter(it is boot, no network stuff) ? GRUB Legacy (that is, GRUB versions 0.xx) is still the default in Gentoo. In order to use

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Alecks Gates
On Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM, LK linuxrocksrul...@googlemail.com wrote: On 120214, at 19:24, m...@trausch.us wrote: On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? Does that matter(it is boot, no network stuff) ? GRUB Legacy (that is,

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 01:40 PM, LK wrote: On 120214, at 19:24, m...@trausch.us wrote: On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? Does that matter(it is boot, no network stuff) ? GRUB Legacy (that is, GRUB versions 0.xx) is still the

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:52 PM, m...@trausch.us m...@trausch.us wrote: On 02/14/2012 01:40 PM, LK wrote: On 120214, at 19:24, m...@trausch.us wrote: On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? Does that matter(it is boot, no

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Andrea Conti
PS: If you know how to get rid of any background image, could you say how? Remove or comment out any splashimage directives from the config file. *** Re grub2: as long as grub0 works, I really don't care if grub2 is better, cleaner, shinier, more modern or anything else. I don't need a

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 20:29, Andrea Conti wrote: PS: If you know how to get rid of any background image, could you say how? Remove or comment out any splashimage directives from the config file. I meant in GRUB2. I have another box with linux mint using GRUB2, and splash backgrounds in GRUB /

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Cook
You can't edit /etc/default/grub to customize how grub-mkconfig generates grub.cfg. Mint probably has update-grub like Ubuntu does which just allows you to use that command instead of grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg On Feb 14, 2012 2:55 PM, LK linuxrocksrul...@googlemail.com wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread Alex Schuster
LK writes: On 120214, at 20:29, Andrea Conti wrote: PS: If you know how to get rid of any background image, could you say how? Remove or comment out any splashimage directives from the config file. I meant in GRUB2. I have another box with linux mint using GRUB2, and splash backgrounds

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 02:04 PM, Michael Mol wrote: A detailed elaboration would be nice. A contrasting migration guide, complete with the how's, where's and why's would be awesome. (Once one's invested in understanding a tool, a 1-2-3-itsmagic walkthrough is very discomforting.) While there are

[gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Grant
Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 02:29 PM, Andrea Conti wrote: Re grub2: as long as grub0 works, I really don't care if grub2 is better, cleaner, shinier, more modern or anything else. I don't need a freakin' whole OS to boot linux, and having a configuration that is so convoluted that it *has to* be generated

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:35 PM, m...@trausch.us m...@trausch.us wrote: On 02/14/2012 02:04 PM, Michael Mol wrote: A detailed elaboration would be nice. A contrasting migration guide, complete with the how's, where's and why's would be awesome. (Once one's invested in understanding a tool, a

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 02:59 PM, Michael Cook wrote: You can't edit /etc/default/grub to customize how grub-mkconfig generates grub.cfg. Mint probably has update-grub like Ubuntu does which just allows you to use that command instead of grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg grub-mkconfig

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 02:53 PM, LK wrote: I meant in GRUB2. I have another box with linux mint using GRUB2, and splash backgrounds in GRUB / lowlevel menus or anywhere (branding) reminds me of commercialism like Apple putting their logo onto every product. (They are good, tho, the apple logo is

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support? I mostly use Chromium. IIRC, there's also Galeon. You'd have to look at the current state of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 03:41 PM, Grant wrote: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? I've used Chromium in the past. It supports the same plugins that Firefox does. There is also Epiphany, the GNOME browser,

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 21:41, Grant wrote: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? I guess the default XFCE4 browser supports flash. it is lightweight. It came once with ubuntu xfce and i liked it. (that to be a

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Alex Schuster
Grant writes: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? Maybe you like www-client/midori: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_%28web_browser%29 Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread LK
On 120214, at 21:42, m...@trausch.us wrote: On 02/14/2012 02:29 PM, Andrea Conti wrote: Re grub2: as long as grub0 works, I really don't care if grub2 is better, cleaner, shinier, more modern or anything else. I don't need a freakin' whole OS to boot linux, and having a configuration that

[gentoo-user] Re: grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread James
Florian Philipp lists at binarywings.net writes: sys-boot/grub has two slots. The default slot 0 with version numbers around 0.92-0.97 is grub-1 (or grub legacy). Slot 2 with version numbers around 1.99 is grub-2. Because it is still in development hell, it has not reached version 2.00. OK,

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread LK
What do you think of putting this conversation onto some website, as tutorial or clarification =P ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Alecks Gates
On Feb 14, 2012 3:42 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? - Grant Midori is quite minimal and has flash support last I checked. It's very lightweight on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support? Chromium/Chrome, Opera, Konqueror... flash works in all of those and are all fast and minimalistic

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub2

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:58 PM, LK linuxrocksrul...@googlemail.com wrote: What do you think of putting this conversation onto some website, as tutorial or clarification =P ? http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_ee5c878773ac6ca9f49a33191654e3db.xml -- :wq

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Alecks Gates
On Feb 14, 2012 4:16 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? Chromium/Chrome,

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Alecks Gates fuzzylunk...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 14, 2012 4:16 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Jean-Christophe Bach
* Grant emailgr...@gmail.com [14.02.2012. @12:41:25 -0800]: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage? Something minimal preferably but with flash support? - Grant Hi, You may want to try Luakit which is light and highly configurable by Lua scripts. I think

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:57:03 +0100, LK wrote: I'm not sure how that translates to being more complex. If you are averse to change, just say so and be done with it. Is it different? Oh, yes, absolutely. It couldn't be better if it were the same, could it? ;-) First, why do we need

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:29:26 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: I don't need a freakin' whole OS to boot linux, and having a configuration that is so convoluted that it *has to* be generated by running a set of scripts makes no sense at all. No it doesn't. so thankfully, outside of your FUD, this is

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Claudio Roberto França Pereira
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com [14.02.2012. @12:41:25 -0800]: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support? - Grant Check Vimperator for Firefox, and also uzbl (uzbl-browser or uzbl-tabbed).

[gentoo-user] Running a USB graphics cards with Linux?

2012-02-14 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Hello, I would love to use two external displays with my notebook. I have seen USB graphics cards on the net and was wondering if anyone around here has tried to run such a thing with Linux. If it worked for you I'd be interested in as many details as you are willing to share. Thanks in

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 03:57 PM, LK wrote: First, why do we need that much code? First, are you talking about source or binary code? If you're talking about source code, then realize this: Not all that source is even compiled on your system. As to the source that *is* compiled on your system, there

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:52 PM, m...@trausch.us m...@trausch.us wrote: It also supports partition schemes other than MBR, which is useful since I use GPT on my systems. FYI Gentoo's GRUB 0.9x in portage has supported GPT for at least 2 or 3 years now. I'm using it with GPT partitions and my

Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 06:47 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: FYI Gentoo's GRUB 0.9x in portage has supported GPT for at least 2 or 3 years now. I'm using it with GPT partitions and my systems all boot. :) Not all distributions do. I have been running GPT for quite some time, while I only switched to Gentoo

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching to clocksource tsc: takes AGES on boot

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
(Sorry that the threading is broken, I was looking at this in the list archive and don't still have the mails from earlier, which I probably mass-deleted...) This sounds suspiciously like an error loading firmware, which can happen when you have a video adapter or WiFi adapter that needs

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?

2012-02-14 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:47:51PM -0200, Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote: Grant emailgr...@gmail.com [14.02.2012. @12:41:25 -0800]: Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support? - Grant Check

[gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

2012-02-14 Thread Dale
Howdy, On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update: WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict: x11-base/xorg-server:0 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with x11-base/xorg-server-1.11 required by

Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

2012-02-14 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:37:05PM -0600, Dale wrote: Howdy, On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update: WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict: x11-base/xorg-server:0 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for

Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

2012-02-14 Thread Willie Matthews
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:37:05 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update: WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict: x11-base/xorg-server:0 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

2012-02-14 Thread m...@trausch.us
On 02/14/2012 08:37 PM, Dale wrote: On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update: WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict: x11-base/xorg-server:0 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Failing to compile hydrogen

2012-02-14 Thread meino . cramer
»Q« boxc...@gmx.net [12-02-14 18:12]: On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:58:49 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: How can I circumvent the problem? I can't vouch for it, but there's a patch attached to the bug. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372003 Hi, thank you for your help and the