Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 02:09:12 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: Screen and tabs are different solutions to different problems. When working with multiple SSH sessions to different machines, and not using ClusterSSH, I find it most convenient to have a tab for each host, with a screen

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels [SOLVED]

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 27 Jan 2014 16:04:44 I wrote: On Sunday 26 Jan 2014 21:42:54 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 26 Jan 2014 21:28:55 I wrote: On Sunday 26 Jan 2014 20:13:58 Neil Bothwick wrote: Uncomment this line in /etc/default/grub #GRUB_TERMINAL=console Thanks, but I'm using a

Re: [gentoo-user] Python Installation broken

2014-01-28 Thread Joakim Gebart
2014-01-28 Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de: Hello, the error message was not correct copy paste. Im in crisis :) gentoomobile ~ # equery u nikola Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/equery, line 5, in module from pkg_resources import load_entry_point File

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-28 Thread Thomas Mueller
I do. Why, does it have its own info reader? Personally I've never had to bite the bullet and had to learn how to use info. Regards Peter I tried to learn info and never did well, always lost my place and had to hit q to get out. Reading the info file as plain text worked better.

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: That sounds nice but is a Bad Idea in the real world where most people judge things by the default setup. Turns off the nice features and 90+% of people trying the software don't see them. Really?, Try that approach at a carrier network support

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 13:38, Thomas Mueller wrote: I do. Why, does it have its own info reader? Personally I've never had to bite the bullet and had to learn how to use info. Regards Peter I tried to learn info and never did well, always lost my place and had to hit q to get out.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 12:03:30 + (UTC), James wrote: That sounds nice but is a Bad Idea in the real world where most people judge things by the default setup. Turns off the nice features and 90+% of people trying the software don't see them. Really?, Try that approach at a carrier

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 28 Jan 2014 14:26:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: You could even go so far as to auto-convert all info pages yourself at emerge time by hooking a custom script into portage's phase hooks. Then view it locally in a browser; the info in info pages is actually very good (far better than in

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 14:54, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 28 Jan 2014 14:26:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: You could even go so far as to auto-convert all info pages yourself at emerge time by hooking a custom script into portage's phase hooks. Then view it locally in a browser; the info in info pages

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 14:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: Really?, Try that approach at a carrier network support center, where new stuff is rolled out to cutomers without first explaing, warning and offering up options. It's shows a blatant disrespect for the existing customer base. Nobody in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:34:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 28/01/2014 14:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: Really?, Try that approach at a carrier network support center, where new stuff is rolled out to cutomers without first explaing, warning and offering up options. It's shows a

Re: [gentoo-user] xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 04:52:22PM +, James wrote: One thing I miss is feature rich tabbed terminal session. I recommend checking out x11-terms/terminator[0]. It can do tabs, and it can also do grids. It's nice. [0] http://gnometerminator.blogspot.com/p/introduction.html

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: Yes, really. People boot a distro's live CD, maybe install it, and make quick decisions about whether they like it or not. Thats a different opportunity/customer, than one that was a faithful and loyal customer. You cannot treat those (new

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread James
Walter Dnes waltdnes at waltdnes.org writes: I went all the way to ICEWM; see my sig. It's been a log time for me with minimal Window Managers. I'm sure I'll get around to testing icewm. In your bash profile (if you use bash), howsabout export PS1='[\h][\u][\w]' Actually, I go for

[gentoo-user] Minimal (fast and cool)

2014-01-28 Thread James
I'm interested in aggregating tips, tricks, ebuild suggestions and config file snippets and examples, related to going minimal on your system, regardless if your system in resource constrained or not. The benefit is not limited to resource constrained systems. The idea is when a person ditches

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:35:55 + (UTC), James wrote: Note, I've use a myriad of qt based open source and commercial products on embedded systems. Those efforts do not mirror the attide of the KDE camp, you espouse so well. I've no idea what you are trying to say here. Sure you

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: The question was about desktop usage, it was about moving from KDE to LXDE. How things work in a completely different environment is irrelevant, the rules are different. To Neil and Alan: These examples are trite and are simply and quickly offered

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: I take it you compile your own ernel then :) (OOCH)(grin)

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Many defaults gentoo sets do not have anything to do with default codepaths upstream has tested. I disagree: The USE-enabling in ebuilds usually follows upstream. IIRC there was even a policy for gentoo developers which strongly suggested this. As above,

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: To go back to the OP's original point, having hostnames on the tabs also makes it obvious which sessions I have open. If you use an appropriate prompt as I have recommended (which modifies [hard] status line) you see the sessions in the tabs of tmux -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-28 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2014 06:45 PM, Martin Vaeth wrote: hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Many defaults gentoo sets do not have anything to do with default codepaths upstream has tested. I disagree: The USE-enabling in ebuilds usually follows upstream.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:53:58 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: To go back to the OP's original point, having hostnames on the tabs also makes it obvious which sessions I have open. If you use an appropriate prompt as I have recommended (which modifies [hard] status line) you see the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:44:32 + (UTC), James wrote: To Neil and Alan: These examples are trite and are simply and quickly offered up as examples on each others perspectives, irrespecitve of minutia. Old dogs snarl quite a bit, but do not move off of their haunches, unless sufficiently

[gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Thanasis
Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with the latest gentoo-sources? Currently, that would be version 3.10.28. I know I can specify it like so, emerge =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.10.28 but then it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Andrew Tselischev
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with the latest gentoo-sources? Currently, that would be version 3.10.28. I know I can specify it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Thanasis
on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with the latest gentoo-sources?

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread eroen
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:29:21 +0200, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote: Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel with the latest gentoo-sources? Currently, that would be version 3.10.28. I know I can

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I haven't used tmux for a while, I tried it and went back to screen, but does it really show the titles of all sessions? On the hardstatus line you see in tmux all sessions with their numbers and their hardstatus line. [More precisely, you see all

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 22:04, Thanasis wrote: on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 22:04, Thanasis wrote: on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:21:33 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I haven't used tmux for a while, I tried it and went back to screen, but does it really show the titles of all sessions? On the hardstatus line you see in tmux all sessions with their

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge latest in a certain version series of a package

2014-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/01/2014 22:04, Thanasis wrote: on 01/28/2014 09:36 PM Andrew Tselischev wrote the following: On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: Is there a way to specify that I want to install (emerge) the latest 3.10.X series of sys-kernel/gentoo-sources as a slot, in parallel